JediDuckling Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 No, it's a IWIN button. The only people who defend it as anything else are the people who are using it. The admin should take a sample of the damage meters in random games of huttball, usually it's the snipers and the gravity round cannons winning top damage/heals. All I can do as a sorc is, well, win the game with ninja speed. So, yeah, if you are having DPS issues embrace the IWIN button and have yourself a slaughter. you want iwin buttons look at sages/sorces gunslingers/snipers they do 3x the damage if not more commando's/mercs are doing lol plus these class's have more defense and survivability than commando's/mercs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotecalls Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Helpful hint: If you face a imperial agent when they are charging their attacks they stand out of cover. So if you are a Jedi knight you can force leap to them or if you are any class with an interrupt you can use it on them. Gunslingers stay in cover the entire time they are charging up their big attacks. Choose your enemies wisely, young grasshopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDuckling Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Helpful hint: If you face a imperial agent when they are charging their attacks they stand out of cover. So if you are a Jedi knight you can force leap to them or if you are any class with an interrupt you can use it on them. Gunslingers stay in cover the entire time they are charging up their big attacks. Choose your enemies wisely, young grasshopper. you cant leap or pull gunslinger/snipers while they are in cover and they become dps tanks wen they are in cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Stuns and interupts are your bestfriends. Its not an IWIN button issue is a L2P issueInterrupt gravity round dot up/slow them LOS them and pop out for shocks/dots stun if caught out in open burn them down or heal up when stun is on Can also force run away, keep at max range and dip in for instant casts/out when they begin casting gravity round. Basically, you don't have to let them spam gravity round on you. Combat Shield says hi. Edited February 16, 2012 by AntoniusDelitan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugig Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Combat Shield says hi. Yea thats for the heal spec, not the dps spec that these ppl are crying about and other people are telling to interupt....nice try though, you at least half-arsed researched it. The only other way would be for them to be hybrid meaning grav would be their only effective dmg, and the cast can still be interupted with a stun/knockback/push/pull Edited February 16, 2012 by ugig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Combat Shield says hi. Nice link to bad its wrong for what we are talking about Edited February 16, 2012 by WolfAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Nice link to bad its wrong for what we are talking about How to make Grav Round an IWIN? Seems like a perfect link... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 How to make Grav Round an IWIN? Seems like a perfect link... Yeah perfect if we were talking combat medic and not gunnery. Please L2P your class, the topping the chart issue is because smart troopers/BH/GS/Snipers know how to postion themselves in huttbal. Like I stated its a L2P issue, if you just leave any of those classes and even sorc/sages to free dmg without putting pressure on them then its you AND your teams fault. Same goes for all WZs really. Civil war mid turret is a great example, any ranged class can perch themselves on the sides and if not messed with, BAM top charts, I do it all the time on my Sage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Immune to interrupts... Are you not seeing that? I play a sorc, not a noobtube trooper. I can get wrecked by Mr. Gravspam in 5 casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Immune to interrupts... Are you not seeing that? I play a sorc, not a noobtube trooper. I can get wrecked by Mr. Gravspam in 5 casts. Ugh you need to pay attention, that link is to a skill in the ability tree COMBAT MEDIC on TIER 3..... get it, got it, good. Any sane Gunnery Commando is not going to go Hybrid and lose out on demo round to gain the immunity thats on a 2 min timer. http://www.republictrooper.com/trooper-abilities-commando-specific This is the Commando ability list, Level 14 is the shield. Now go to any website with a skill tree calculator and look at the combat medic tree. Then do /facepalm for ignorance. Edited February 16, 2012 by WolfAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejavy Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Snipers? What snipers? Those easy breakable chips behind red holowalls? Ahhhh.... thooose snipers... They die too fast from my gunnery combo of 2gravs, hib, demo, FA and sticky. No problem in dueling with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Ugh you need to pay attention, that link is to a skill in the ability tree COMBAT MEDIC on TIER 3..... get it, got it, good. Any sane Gunnery Commando is not going to go Hybrid and lose out on demo round to gain the immunity thats on a 2 min timer. http://www.republictrooper.com/trooper-abilities-commando-specific This is the Commando ability list, Level 14 is the shield. Now go to any website with a skill tree calculator and look at the combat medic tree. Then do /facepalm for ignorance. http://db.darthhater.com/skill_calc/trooper/commando/#::e2fe2fe10fe3f2ef8e2fef2ef2ef18: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#800rcoM0zZMIkbRMdRkf.1 Grav Grav Grav Grav High Impact DED!! No interrupts! Problem? Edited February 16, 2012 by AntoniusDelitan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) http://db.darthhater.com/skill_calc/trooper/commando/#::e2fe2fe10fe3f2ef8e2fef2ef2ef18: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#800rcoM0zZMIkbRMdRkf.1 Grav Grav Grav Grav High Impact DED!! No interrupts! Problem? Can we get a count on how many commandos use that those specs, im mean seriously a 12sec imunnity on a 2min cd Edited February 16, 2012 by WolfAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Yeah, they werent interrupted/stunned/knocked back to force an interrupt. yep there was a problem in that fight. Say my sorc healer is at 30 yards and my stun is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Say my sorc healer is at 30 yards and my stun is down. Oh plz you want to get into each ability, with that spec you are showig you could do how many stuns/interrupts during its 2 min cd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Oh plz you want to get into each ability, with that spec you are showig you could do how many stuns/interrupts during its 2 min cd? One. I'm running back from the medcenter the other two fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfahm Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 go play a commando or BH on gunnery spec and see how far you go with just grav round spam.. GL dropping demo rounds for that shield.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Crits for 3.2k easy on light armor. Why do you really need to cast anything else except HIB as an execute? Edited February 16, 2012 by AntoniusDelitan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 One. I'm running back from the medcenter the other two fights. Well since we are assuming, maybe on our first encounter my reactive shield was on CD, come on we can do this all day. As i said its a L2P issue, you can do this with all classes if you want to make scenarios ie oh what if my CC breaker was down or my cryogrenade. Hey lets throw in that I have no PvP gear into the scenario too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyboxer Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 No, it's a IWIN button. The only people who defend it as anything else are the people who are using it. The admin should take a sample of the damage meters in random games of huttball, usually it's the snipers and the gravity round cannons winning top damage/heals. All I can do as a sorc is, well, win the game with ninja speed. So, yeah, if you are having DPS issues embrace the IWIN button and have yourself a slaughter. This guy is so FOS it isnt even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntoniusDelitan Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well since we are assuming, maybe on our first encounter my reactive shield was on CD, come on we can do this all day. As i said its a L2P issue, you can do this with all classes if you want to make scenarios ie oh what if my CC breaker was down or my cryogrenade. Hey lets throw in that I have no PvP gear into the scenario too. But... you have grav round. Without the shield... it just takes ~15 seconds to kill a sorc healer instead of 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfahm Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Hits for 3.2k easy on light armor. Why do you really need to cast anything else except HIB as an execute? on a crit maybe with BM gear.. sorc is the only class I think commando has a upper hand on at all .. sorcs tend to have a upper hand over ALOT of classes .. good sorcs will still crush me 1/2 the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfahm Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 + if anything you do less DPS spamming grav rounds and the noob player should not be hard to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafus Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Heres my rotation for my commando. grav3-demo-grav2-bolt-full auto. Most anyone will be dead after that if you are relatively geared. plus my skill tree is 7-31-3. Im currently the top dps commando on death wind corridor through my experience so i feel this setup is succesful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfAttack Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Crits for 3.2k easy on light armor. Why do you really need to cast anything else except HIB as an execute? Im sorry but i have to ask what is your pvp gear compared to theirs? Even without having jack for pvp gear on my sage I dont believe i have even been hit for 3.2k on a grav hit at least if i have i must have had a full 5 vortex stack on me and they got a lucky high dmg crit. You might be seeing grav followed by a massive demo hit would be my guess. Demo with a 5 vortex debuff combo is just nasty. Getting that 5 stacks takes at least 3 grav rounds unstunned/uninterrupt/unknockbacked. Also it can take longer than 4.5 sec to get the full 5 with being pushbacked. Edited February 16, 2012 by WolfAttack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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