Dragonator Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 This is the first MMO ive seen that allows you to create an opposite faction character on the same server on a pvp server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Then this must be your first MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith_Sorcerer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 no it certainly isnt the first....and why would it matter if it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moriath Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 This is the first MMO ive seen that allows you to create an opposite faction character on the same server on a pvp server. Yeah it is kinda dumb. And to the person who made the smart ***** remark about this being his first mmo, maybe it is, maybe ti isn't. Fact still remains that the trend in mmo's is to NOT allow this. so just because they didn't play the niche underground korean free-to-play game you played doesn't man this is their first mmo. I have been playing mmo's for about 13 years with time in at least 15 mmo's and the trend has always been only one faction per server on PVP servers i any big game of a respectable nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticalshadow Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) well its by no means the first, it was only really recently did games start doing that (and by recently i mean of recent years) ill agree im not a huge fan of it but the other problem is the game isnt focused around pvp either. what i mean is games focused around it like have very big gameplay mechanics around the idea of area control of pvp. certian benifits a faction can actually claim. swtor doesnt have it, swtor is a rpg first, and a pvp game second. while it was built with the intetion of having pvp, it wastn built around the foundation of being pvp. EDIT: above me. i wouldnt call it a trend either, the thing is the majority of MMO's dont do this, because the majority of them are not pvp games, theya re games with pvp. a pvp mmo would have been planetside, darkfall, warhammer. games whos entire core revolves around pvp. games like this, are not core pvp games. the core of this game is a story line, pvp was a high priority and integrated at every design level yes, but it doesnt have a core mechanical gameplay effect with pvp. and the majority of servers arent even pvp servers, farther reducing the need for it. Edited December 15, 2011 by opticalshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpRaider Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Great input folks! Good to have these types of contributions from this community. You could contribute something to the OP's thoughts on the subject, but instead..... you're 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonator Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Been playing MMO's since UO in 1997. This is certainly not my first MMO. I said this is the first MMO Ive seen that allows it. I havent played every MMO that's hit the market just every major MMO release. Its dumb at least in a pvp server the fact you can only choose one faction builds up a sort of faction unity amongst the playerbase making pvp all the more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarlathe Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 From a RP point of view it's great. Especially with the legacy system in place. Two brothers, one is following the dark side of the force, the other the light side. Both with the same surname. Both known on the server for their deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith_Sorcerer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 no it certainly isnt the first....and why would it matter if it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JowyBIight Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It should be that on PVP servers you can not roll on both factions simply to stop the trolling and what not. If you want the story from the other faction then make a new character on a new server. Why would you need to be on the same server anyway if you play on separate factions? The only thing I could think of would be a trolling guild that goes around trolling major towns and what not and spamming that their pvp guild is the best and the empire/republic sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opticalshadow Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It should be that on PVP servers you can not roll on both factions simply to stop the trolling and what not. If you want the story from the other faction then make a new character on a new server. Why would you need to be on the same server anyway if you play on separate factions? The only thing I could think of would be a trolling guild that goes around trolling major towns and what not and spamming that their pvp guild is the best and the empire/republic sucks. what trolling could you do one way or the other. i can say the repuiblic sucks on any server regurdless if i have an empire character. why have to move to a new server, if lets say, my guild and its few hundred members all want to play together on both sides. why not just stay on oone server where our guild, and all of our other guid friends are? in a core pvp game it makes sense, but not for swtor, theres no need for it because theres nothing that will hurt the game from one guy on two sides. its not like on ps where you could sit on vent and give away all of the atk plans of the enemy empire, and with zone limits you cant zerg anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatman Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 They did it for the legacy system but the family will be made of the republic and the empire. Meaning a lot of family quarrels? HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yeah it is kinda dumb. And to the person who made the smart ***** remark about this being his first mmo, maybe it is, maybe ti isn't. Fact still remains that the trend in mmo's is to NOT allow this. so just because they didn't play the niche underground korean free-to-play game you played doesn't man this is their first mmo. I have been playing mmo's for about 13 years with time in at least 15 mmo's and the trend has always been only one faction per server on PVP servers i any big game of a respectable nature. Your nifty little rant would have more bite if the most successful MMORPG in the world didn't allow you to be both factions on the same PvP server. But it DOES allow it, so you're just uninformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It should be that on PVP servers you can not roll on both factions simply to stop the trolling and what not. If you want the story from the other faction then make a new character on a new server. Why would you need to be on the same server anyway if you play on separate factions? The only thing I could think of would be a trolling guild that goes around trolling major towns and what not and spamming that their pvp guild is the best and the empire/republic sucks. Yes, that's clearly the only reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradosi Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So kids can stroke their e-peens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSQViper Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Uh... why NOT? There is no problem with that, especially if you have a friendly rivalry with other guilds. Or, in my case, have a guild so big that people want to play on both sides and against each other. I like it. It makes NO SENSE to make you go to a different server based on faction. Edited December 15, 2011 by RSQViper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelrie Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So kids can stroke their e-peens. You probably shouldn't be talking about kids stroking things. It's rather creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameirus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 This is the first MMO ive seen that allows you to create an opposite faction character on the same server on a pvp server. its not the first and why not? Its not like you can stop multi-boxing or communication over vent/teamspeak etc... Seams pointelss to restrict it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysling Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yeah it is kinda dumb. And to the person who made the smart ***** remark about this being his first mmo, maybe it is, maybe ti isn't. Fact still remains that the trend in mmo's is to NOT allow this. so just because they didn't play the niche underground korean free-to-play game you played doesn't man this is their first mmo. I have been playing mmo's for about 13 years with time in at least 15 mmo's and the trend has always been only one faction per server on PVP servers i any big game of a respectable nature. Which ones? lol WoW, EVE, EQ2, AoC, STO all let you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrYdog Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 dont know whats wrong with that...i want to play all i want ..and as much as i want..even on the same server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daraco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Simply put, since this is a STORY driven mmo, the idea is that weather your PvPing or PvEing bioware wants you to consider the story the main draw of the game. and they don't want to restrict that idea . By limiting you to a single faction they are cutting you off from half the content. Please don't point out you can go to a second server. The idea is that the Story and server are a single concept, its the same reason they give you 8 slots per server, so you can make 1 of every class. if they didn't want this thinking they would have only given us 4 slots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusRex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Yeah it is kinda dumb. And to the person who made the smart ***** remark about this being his first mmo, maybe it is, maybe ti isn't. Fact still remains that the trend in mmo's is to NOT allow this. so just because they didn't play the niche underground korean free-to-play game you played doesn't man this is their first mmo. I have been playing mmo's for about 13 years with time in at least 15 mmo's and the trend has always been only one faction per server on PVP servers i any big game of a respectable nature. The biggest MMO in the world allows it, and while I have no strong opinion either way on the subject, it comes off as pretty ignorant of the industry to act like MMOs that do allow it are some kind of niche or fringe case. Edited December 15, 2011 by MaximusRex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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