Umbrex Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Seen quite a few people say how "SWTOR is failing" or something along those lines. Just wondering where they are getting the "evidence" behind these claims. I don't understand how anyone can take those people seriously when Bioware doesn't release subscriptions numbers...and almost all of the player-tracking tools are very far from accurate. I'm just baffled that this many people can confidently write a post saying "Well its obvious SWTOR is a failure" *Shakes head* Did I miss some news article that release subscription numbers of people on their second month compared to the number of people that purchased the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qIrwuMfh Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Seen quite a few people say how "SWTOR is failing" or something along those lines. Just wondering where they are getting the "evidence" behind these claims. I don't understand how anyone can take those people seriously when Bioware doesn't release subscriptions numbers...and almost all of the player-tracking tools are very far from accurate. I'm just baffled that this many people can confidently write a post saying "Well its obvious SWTOR is a failure" *Shakes head* Did I miss some news article that release subscription numbers of people on their second month compared to the number of people that purchased the game? everything is happening for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Nope, just angry people grasping at straws and ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Population shrinking since launch is a good indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 everything is happening for a reason. *joins in* *Carefully places tinfoil hat on head* *ready for action!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleeha Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Seen quite a few people say how "SWTOR is failing" or something along those lines. Just wondering where they are getting the "evidence" behind these claims. I don't understand how anyone can take those people seriously when Bioware doesn't release subscriptions numbers...and almost all of the player-tracking tools are very far from accurate. I'm just baffled that this many people can confidently write a post saying "Well its obvious SWTOR is a failure" *Shakes head* Did I miss some news article that release subscription numbers of people on their second month compared to the number of people that purchased the game? Every freaking time I start this application it fails. Within an hour of game play, maybe two the game has to be exited because it becomes unstable and slow. Wonder why I as a paying customer have nerdrage? Well, of the more than 100 applications installed on my computer outside of Windows 7 Ultimate, this is the only damn one that crashes like this. Problem signature: Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: launcher.exe_SWTOR Launcher Application Version: 3.1.9.0 Application Timestamp: 4eebd6bc Fault Module Name: SWTORLaunch.dll_unloaded Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 4f0f81ad Exception Offset: 100b742c Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Read our privacy statement online: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...8&clcid=0x0409 If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline: C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Every freaking time I start this application it fails. Within an hour of game play, maybe two the game has to be exited because it becomes unstable and slow. Wonder why I as a paying customer have nerdrage? Well, of the more than 100 applications installed on my computer outside of Windows 7 Ultimate, this is the only damn one that crashes like this. Problem signature: Problem Event Name: BEX Application Name: launcher.exe_SWTOR Launcher Application Version: 3.1.9.0 Application Timestamp: 4eebd6bc Fault Module Name: SWTORLaunch.dll_unloaded Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 4f0f81ad Exception Offset: 100b742c Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Data: 00000008 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Read our privacy statement online: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...8&clcid=0x0409 If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline: C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt You have corrupted windows. How is that biowares fault? Edited January 31, 2012 by djsmileey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berazad Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) It's easy to make baseless claims but without proof most reasonable people will never take you seriously. I saw some guy claiming SWTOR lost 65% of it's subscribers the other day, the guy of course had no proof. Edited January 31, 2012 by Berazad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magron Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've had better behaved software. This game was wiping out sections of my desktop at first.. looks like they might have fixed that. No, my windows is not corrupted. In fact it's a new, clean W7/64 install. Make no mistake..they DO have code problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbrex Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Population shrinking since launch is a good indicator. Actually I'm fairly certain that they adjusted the population caps, or parameters, and it's been proven that the population estimates on the server list are massively inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's easy to make baseless claims but without proof most reasonable people will never take you seriously. I saw some guy claiming SWTOR lost 65% of it's subscribers the other day, the guy of couse had no proof. Bioware is currently projected to have 13.7 million subscribers by June 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshalleck Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 You don't need third party tools to look at the number of people playing. Go on yoru server and open the who tool, do some searches for specific level ranges and see who's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failstar Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's easy to make baseless claims but without proof most reasonable people will never take you seriously. I saw some guy claiming SWTOR lost 65% of it's subscribers the other day, the guy of couse had no proof. The counter argument of course being that YOU don't have any proof either. No really arguing like this works. I've seen it. Over. And over. And over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvian Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Population shrinking since launch is a good indicator. That happens in every MMO release that I have been a part of for the last 12 years. An average of 10-15% quit. They try it say this is not for me and move on so first month is never a good indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleeha Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 You have corrupted windows. How is that biowares fault? Lol, I do not have "corrupted windows". Bad troll is bad. This problem did not start happening until AFTER the last patch. This is the ONLY application which fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brileysixx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Evidence? Its everywhere? Play the game. Half the time I see people **** talkin the game in general chat. And a lot of servers already feel dead. Half the threads on this site are compliants. Can't tell you how many times I've read that people are unsubscribing. Feedback is all the proof needed, and there's wayyy more negative then postive hands down. Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTijger Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've had better behaved software. This game was wiping out sections of my desktop at first.. looks like they might have fixed that. No, my windows is not corrupted. In fact it's a new, clean W7/64 install. Make no mistake..they DO have code problems. If that were true everyone would have such issues and thats not the case so....you can draw your own conclusion, I expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 They have no evidence. They simply think that their opinions are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Population shrinking since launch is a good indicator. You keep saying that...you say it at least thirty times a day.... yet you never can provide the official numbers to back up those claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quip Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Here's an idea if it matters so much to you. Wait for tax time. The guessing is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTijger Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Evidence? Its everywhere? Play the game. Half the time I see people **** talkin the game in general chat. And a lot of servers already feel dead. Half the threads on this site are compliants. Can't tell you how many times I've read that people are unsubscribing. Feedback is all the proof needed, and there's wayyy more negative then postive hands down. Agree? Why would people who are happily playing post here? A few do but most people do not so your measure of feedback is at best skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 You keep saying that...you say it at least thirty times a day.... yet you never can provide the official numbers to back up those claims. I don't say it thirty times a day, but I am flattered that I have a stalker of sorts. Log into various servers and check how many are on. Are some servers fine? Yup. Are a bunch of servers not? Yup. If you don't agree with me feel free to pull your own data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazorous Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 You don't need third party tools to look at the number of people playing. Go on yoru server and open the who tool, do some searches for specific level ranges and see who's playing. So does the /who show every single person on that server? As far as I know, it's only a /who of people within that specific area, as well as only your faction. So unless you've done a /who on every planet/zone and have done it for the opposite faction, your "feelings" on the matter isn't very conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 *looks at server list* light light light light light light light light light light standard light Yeah i don't see fail anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsmileey Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Lol, I do not have "corrupted windows". Bad troll is bad. This problem did not start happening until AFTER the last patch. This is the ONLY application which fails. It may not be as apparent as you think, but I have 128740189274120987 % confidence that if you were to bring it to my shop http://www.adeptcomputers.com I would get it running without errors. We get people in EVERY WEEK asking to "make their computer faster for star wars" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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