WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Does the job that other talents should be doing and is way too overpowered, no other class has such an easy escape ability whenever they find themselves out of position or outnumbered Dear God what the hell were they thinking when they made this ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moasaint Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Force speed is sweet. To bad you cant run when stunned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijinvince Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Good players stun/leap/grapple me any time I try to use force speed to run away. It's an escape mechanism, and it has counters. Learn 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentarius Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 There are counters.. stun been the best one. sorcs have it because we are very squishy, and most of us have to kite melees which is the point of the skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I wasn't aware you were perfectly fine with broken game mechanics. Whining is how things that need to be changed actually get changed, bro. Just because you got owned by it, doesn't make it broken, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 *Force speeds out of the thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijinvince Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I wasn't aware you were perfectly fine with broken game mechanics. Whining is how things that need to be changed actually get changed, bro. Broken implies there's a bug or exploit associated with it. There's not. You could say imbalanced, and I'd disagree, but at least your terminology would be more accurate. Edited January 29, 2012 by Raijinvince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 @OP - You must be kidding, you can force speed for about 30m if thats an issue for you, you need to examine your tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just because you got owned by it, doesn't make it broken, bro. So when Bioware decided to nerf operatives and smugglers that were owning everyone, it wasn't broken even though bioware fixed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLLaDeLpHLife Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just because you got owned by it, doesn't make it broken, bro. this at this rate every skill would have been banned and we would be pressing 1 for basic lightsaber attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 @OP - You must be kidding, you can force speed for about 30m if thats an issue for you, you need to examine your tactics. ITT PvP takes place in an open field Oh wait, no it doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 ITT PvP takes place in an open field Oh wait, no it doesn't Next you will be saying line of sight is over powered. Again, you need to examine your tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morda Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You forgot to add how OP it is for when we carry the ball in hutball! *laughs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahbrah Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 So when Bioware decided to nerf operatives and smugglers that were owning everyone, it wasn't broken even though bioware fixed it? Operatives were owning bad people, not good ones. I don't agree with the nerf at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 There are counters.. stun been the best one. sorcs have it because we are very squishy, and most of us have to kite melees which is the point of the skill. Stun is a good counter to force speed, the problem is stun has cooldowns and I'm rarely fighting just 1 person every 30 seconds, since I'm playing pvp And sorcs already have things like the bubble, and all their different cc abilities, very strong dps, and very strong healing abilities because they're squishy. Adding force speed into the mix means that sorc/sage can make the most mistakes in a fight without ending up dead out of every other class in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Next you will be saying line of sight is over powered. Again, you need to examine your tactics. No what I'm trying to say is that pvp doesn't take place in an open field, there are more than enough things inside the map like cover, power ups, or like in huttball the vent thingies. Only 30 meters doesn't matter when you factor in these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Stun is a good counter to force speed, the problem is stun has cooldowns and I'm rarely fighting just 1 person every 30 seconds, since I'm playing pvp And sorcs already have things like the bubble, and all their different cc abilities, very strong dps, and very strong healing abilities because they're squishy. Adding force speed into the mix means that sorc/sage can make the most mistakes in a fight without ending up dead out of every other class in the game. If they make so many mistakes, you should be killing them. Sounds like you are just a baddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raijinvince Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Stun is a good counter to force speed, the problem is stun has cooldowns and I'm rarely fighting just 1 person every 30 seconds, since I'm playing pvp And sorcs already have things like the bubble, and all their different cc abilities, very strong dps, and very strong healing abilities because they're squishy. Adding force speed into the mix means that sorc/sage can make the most mistakes in a fight without ending up dead out of every other class in the game. Not all in one spec they don't. Oh, and just like your stun goes on cooldown, so does Sorc CC/speed/bubble/etc. I'm sorry if you were fighting someone with all of their cooldowns up while all of yours were down, but that doesn't make force speed OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Operatives were owning bad people, not good ones. I don't agree with the nerf at all. But BioWare still decided to nerf them which means one of two things Either they had access to better data than you do, so they had a better concept of how the game was balanced with the way operatives and scoundrels were performing and decided to nerf it, in which case you're wrong about what in game is actually balanced and what isn't Or you are right, they weren't op, so BioWare is just incompetent in regards to pvp balance, in which case things like force speed are incredibly op and BioWare is at fault for keeping it in the game as long as they have because they're incompetent So either way I'm right here bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 If they make so many mistakes, you should be killing them. Sounds like you are just a baddie. See that's exactly the thing buddy, if they make so many mistakes, I SHOULD be killing them, but theirs is the most forgiving class in the game because of things like force speed. Welcome to the conversation now that you managed to grasp the subject matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearu Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 So much fail here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not all in one spec they don't. Oh, and just like your stun goes on cooldown, so does Sorc CC/speed/bubble/etc. I'm sorry if you were fighting someone with all of their cooldowns up while all of yours were down, but that doesn't make force speed OP. Um, pvp doesn't work that way Me: Usually it's "hey I found a sorc, time to shoot at him" *sorcs force speed is on cooldown* Sorc: Time to cast bubble so all his damage does nothing! *bubble dies* Sorc: Better use one of my many stuns to keep letting force speed recharge! *I'm stunned, break it* *3 of my teammates show up* Sorc: Better use my AOE knockback that also roots! *force speed is off cooldown* Sorc: Bye! *zooms off, heals self* This doesn't happen with other classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyJanson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 So much fail here. Yeah a bunch of sorcs trying to defend force speed, it's really really fail man Thank god there's someone on my side I thought only sorcs were posting right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearu Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have a feeling we are all just being trolled by the OP here. If you have a problem with force speed, you actually suck. Thats about all there is to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustfinder Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Does the job that other talents should be doing and is way too overpowered, no other class has such an easy escape ability whenever they find themselves out of position or outnumbered Dear God what the hell were they thinking when they made this ability Run all they want it is just 2 seconds and besides as a Vanguard I will just pull them back to me with harpoon.... Def not OP, it is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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