AlyxDinas Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Can we not simply be happy that others have gotten something good, instead of being enraged that we have not shared their bounty? That "bounty" come directly at the expense of a sizable portion of the game community. This isn't a case where a few Imperials got some extra credits in a lottery and we congratulate them on their luck. This has immensely wide reaching ramifications on content, where the positive gain for one faction is inversely proportional to the negatives for the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineInchNinja Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Just cancelled my sub - i dont pay for broken items. If it gets fixed i may come back, have fun everyone. Star trek is now free 2 play And worth every penny from what I've seen. Bbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimfist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 lol talk about the bronken game Star Track is the biggest ......... LOL exactly what i was thinking ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldSquadGirl Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I do hope that you do in fact roll back the sploiterz. Because NOONE with valor ranks will get a bit of respect for it if you do not. I'm fighting 200 imps in Ilum, been fighting there all day with some success. But most of these players came streaming in once you all announced that the turret thing was an exploit. Getting some pretty good FRAPS of it too, for your sake I hope you fix this. Because you'll be the laughingstock of MMOs if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlacke Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Just cancelled my sub - i dont pay for broken items. If it gets fixed i may come back, have fun everyone. Star trek is now free 2 play Star Trek?! hahaha Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaSuperBear Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 "We'll have a response shortly." 4 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceblack Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 ok it's midnight here in the uk and still no real response, have BW all gone home now or are they really thinking of a way to sort this **** out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbocat Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 way to go bioware on ruining a good game for the people who actually work hard to get their valor up. you could not of done anything worse than this way to go dont make anymore games if you pull this crap. quitting this stupid game if this is not changed you 50`s farmed lowbies for easy valor since game release, and lnow its whing because those after you get easy valor...hypecrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohimbine Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Man things are ugly on Ilum. I got there went about 30 yds out the gate got ganked by more than I can count. I was hoping things would improve as I played about 15 warzones yesterday won 5 and got credit for 2 wins in the dailys. Lets say my frustration levels is maxed. I am have zero fun with this game at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbuckx Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Can you give credit for quests when you gain a Warzone Victory. Can you also change Warzones to give 10k valor for participation. This will be in line with 1.1 Ilum. or Delete Ilum and start again. ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceasaigh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Originally Posted by DarkwingGT What exactly is there to discuss? The turrets give massive valor, have no diminishing returns and respawn instantly. How is that in anyway shape or form valid? As for faction imbalance, not much you could do except cap the zone. Also, possibly take a page from the game that shall not be named and implement something like Tenacity. Now they borked it because they didn't get the numbers right but with tweaking it could help. Honestly you have one basic axiom, people love to win but will accept a fair fight. If you leave it such that it's a giant snowball (i.e. bigger faction wins more and the rewards get boosted by winning therefore giving them a greater ability to win), then the losing side (mostly Republic) will simply stop trying and give up. Then the winning side will have no one left to fight. Yeah dude there is no Turret exploit. The issue here is the blatant spawn camping and getting valor from NPC's. Ilum is a open world PvP area. It can never be balanced. But it can be made fair. And spawn camping inside the base is not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameenachan Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 To be fair, the rest of the patch bar Illum was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan_Atic Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I do hope that you do in fact roll back the sploiterz. Because NOONE with valor ranks will get a bit of respect for it if you do not. I'm fighting 200 imps in Ilum, been fighting there all day with some success. But most of these players came streaming in once you all announced that the turret thing was an exploit. Getting some pretty good FRAPS of it too, for your sake I hope you fix this. Because you'll be the laughingstock of MMOs if you don't. So what you're saying is you're helping the imps farm this Valor that you're also complaining about them getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratham Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) So, 6pm for Bioware now and still no response other than a quick reword of what the original statement was. Did you all go home? I guess I'll go resub to Warhammer for my pvp fix, never really had a problem with that game and it look like they're adding relics/forts Is this the part where the pvpers go play Warhammer since its been getting fixed for years? Edited January 19, 2012 by Ratham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virre Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I started to read this thread but then I realized 90% of it was just "QQQQQQQ" with no constructive points so I stopped reading and posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakertanks Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I keep reading this thread for two reasons. 1. I am really angry with Ilum. 2. I am stunned at how absolutely silent BW is. It's fascinating in grotesque sort of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husanak Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hmmm just got an email from a fantastic Development Co I used to give money too..... Hmmm. I kid I'm still here... but didn't take your competition long too see an Op did it? lol Check out RIFT™ 1.6: From the Embers—which introduced a massive new zone, raid, dungeons, and more—free of charge. Play RIFT for free Jan. 19-22! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thriftstorewar Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 That "bounty" come directly at the expense of a sizable portion of the game community. This isn't a case where a few Imperials got some extra credits in a lottery and we congratulate them on their luck. This has immensely wide reaching ramifications on content, where the positive gain for one faction is inversely proportional to the negatives for the other. No, I promise you that I haven't lost anything as the Imperials have gained Valor. And "wide-reaching" is a misnomer for "specific yet frustrating to me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiaforos Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 And where are these posts telling them not to do this because it was likely gonna happen I would love you to link me some? Because I can't find a single one on the test forums ? Not saying there not there I just would like to see em.... Certainly. I just went through the PTR forum and picked a couple out. There were other threads that spelled out the potential issues more directly, but this should suffice to show that players knew that the Ilum changes in conjunction with server imbalance would be a huge problem. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=190195 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=180338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperPump Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) to be fair, the rest of the patch bar illum was amazing. i want moar combat log!!! Edited January 19, 2012 by ViperPump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malignment Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Man things are ugly on Ilum. I got there went about 30 yds out the gate got ganked by more than I can count. I was hoping things would improve as I played about 15 warzones yesterday won 5 and got credit for 2 wins in the dailys. Lets say my frustration levels is maxed. I am have zero fun with this game at the moment. This. Warzone wins still not counting post patch. Lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarfunkz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 All this crying from when you played BETA a YEAR ago...and yet...here you are still playing. Hmmm. Can't be that bad I guess. My friends play the game, I will play with my friends. If we decide to leave the game, we will play other games. It is a fairly simple thing to understand. There are a lot of things in the game that are good, but the lag issues and inability to see the need for good servers really deteriorate everything that they have done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otohime Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 hypecrate ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanealpha Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 2. I am stunned at how absolutely silent BW is. It's fascinating in grotesque sort of way. This! Honestly, this trainwreck of events is actually more entertainment than I've gotten from actual gameplay from this game so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikoul Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 ok it's midnight here in the uk and still no real response, have BW all gone home now or are they really thinking of a way to sort this **** out? I think they are all huddling around a table with their heads lower, whispering to themselves, "s***, we f***ed up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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