Avrose Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 i cant wait till the 21st so all the idiots will leave. I wish it was that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xugos Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 still havent asnwer my questions, have you coward? I answered them on ~page 6, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronButrfly Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I should have taken a screen shot this past weekend of the servers. all EU servers were either full very heavy or heavy past their bed like 9am in the morning. and it continued all fri-sunday. So its hard for me to belive that subs are declining even before the month is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulfer Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I work with numbers.... big numbers are good when I want more of the things I am am counting. A game needs more logins as more logins mean people are well using the game. less people using teh game means less people will eventually pay for it... It happened in M59, EQ, SWG, LoTRo, Rift and every other game out there... the only MMO so far that has increased day one logins significantly has been WoW and yes there were bugs, and yes there was a toxic forum community, and yes people still came back... the different issue is here we have a game that is 7 years too late. its not geared for Hardcore MMo players due to lack of tools and content, and it is not really very ADHD friendly for the facebook generation. Its falleing between the two... It will have a very loyal following and it will remain profitable. I think every one can now agree it won't be the WoW killer it was hyped to be. Just face facts... just because people are leaving does not mean teh game will die. It just wont be that successful so what? I might resub in a few months if they radically improve but hey either way noone died! Hardcore MMO players who need tools and addons to hold their hand? Carebear much? What you call Hardcore MMO players I call pansies in tights, seriously. You want a Hardcore MMO? Go play Darkfall (Admiteddly dying in the build up to DF2) or Eve, or Everquest. Anygame where you actually lose a whole crap load of stuff on death, see how long your "Hardcore" MMO players last. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xugos Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) LOL have you started bringing in your 'alts' and answering them? You are bordering schizophrenia.... Alts? Are you telling me that I bought multiple copies of SW:TOR just so that I could ask myself questions on this forum? LOL not a chance in blue valhalla. Edited January 13, 2012 by Xugos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raistlinthewiz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Yet again I want to post my clarification on graphics; quick info on this; (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent user subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population.0 -> offline1 - 2 -> light2 - 3-> standard3 - 4 -> heavy4 - 5 -> very heavy5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. Here is an FAQ on the tool as well! http://www.swtorarena.com/topic/210-swtor-statistics-tool-faq/ Edited January 13, 2012 by Zoggel Added FAQ link by request Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 i cant wait till the 21st so all the idiots will leave. Unfortunately, not all the idiots but a good part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamor Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'll just drop this here: http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/40000/3000/500/43544/43544.strip.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Alts? Are you telling me that I bought multiple copies of SW:TOR just so that I could ask myself questions on this forum? LOL not a chance in blue valhalla. God only knows what lows can a sick person reach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilosoldier Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 And I still Play EvE, What? No law says you can't love two games. Nice try though.... Really? Come on. Im not bashing any other game nor have I. Im making fun of an obvious WoW troll in a SWTOR forum. and yes, the WoW fanbois are in heat over SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_barth Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I love how Xugos The Troll has put "Disturbing News" in the title of this thread just to make it appears like hes a "concerned player" when he acctually spends his whole days trolling these forums. Its acctually pretty sad what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yet again I want to post my clarification on graphics; quick info on this; (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent user subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline 1 - 2 -> light 2 - 3-> standard 3 - 4 -> heavy 4 - 5 -> very heavy 5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. Dang Xugos, you just got told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septusmortis Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 i cant wait till the 21st so all the idiots will leave. Yes so then you can sit with your fingers in your ears going "tra la la" and screaming "LFG...echo... echo.... echo at the top of your voice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I, too, was once very hyped for this game, but I stop short of calling myself a 'fanboy.' I wouldn't be foolish enough to get involved with the irrational praising of a game. Many of us have been around a long time, we can still remember the bashing you were giving the game months and months before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xugos Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Getting late, and people still insist that I'm trolling and relentlessly flame everything that disagrees with their chosen narrative. PCE. Edited January 13, 2012 by Xugos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramaos Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Oh Noes! The sky is falling! All my guild is still playing and love the game. Why do people bother spreading doubt and fear? unless they have an ulterior motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 LOL, what? How can subsriptions drop if noone has paid a subscription fee for the game? The game is in its first month. Not a single subscriber has been billed so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilosoldier Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Many of us have been around a long time, we can still remember the bashing you were giving the game months and months before release. Yep. This guy has been at this for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXcronicXx Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 oh look its vorps.... he just got laugh out of the WoW Games, Gaming and Hardware forms for making topics and posts with hes army of alts...... read all about it here:D http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3881918719?page=2#27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokivoid Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 93.425% of statistics are false. like the one you just gave. The statistics he provided are valid as they have datamined there research material for the statistics. Wile they might have a margin of error there not "false". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hardcore MMO players who need tools and addons to hold their hand? Carebear much? What you call Hardcore MMO players I call pansies in tights, seriously. You want a Hardcore MMO? Go play Darkfall (Admiteddly dying in the build up to DF2) or Eve, or Everquest. Anygame where you actually lose a whole crap load of stuff on death, see how long your "Hardcore" MMO players last. LOL. This, 1000 times. What you have here is a bunch of ADD kids that can't play without addons and macros doing the work for them and calling themselves 'hardcore' just because they have almos no social life or obligations and can spend 6-8 hours a day playing (if not more). go play a game that requires REAL skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJEBarlow Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I, too, was once very hyped for this game, but I stop short of calling myself a 'fanboy.' I wouldn't be foolish enough to get involved with the irrational praising of a game. Just irrational bashing, then? I mean... I have problems with this game, some pretty annoying ones, but if I hated the game as much as you clearly do (judging from your posting history) I'd just quit and not look back. I've quit numerous MMOs now, probably more than I could list off the top of my head, and each time I just leave quietly. If I feel I really must have my say about the game before I do I will send an email directly to the developer because, it's not like the devs will read your rants, mods tend to just lock "I quit" threads. So take the hint. You already seem to have decided you won't be here when the first billing period begins, be the bigger man and just put the game out of your mind instead of endlessly trolling this forum because there's nothing else to fill your time. Surely getting your guild's raid or PvE progression up on WoW should make you too busy to troll this much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yet again I want to post my clarification on graphics; quick info on this; (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent user subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline 1 - 2 -> light 2 - 3-> standard 3 - 4 -> heavy 4 - 5 -> very heavy 5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. Thanks for the clarification. So we can conclude that Xugos' claim that the game is losing 4% of it's subscribers every day based on these figures is pure fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Getting late; g'night. Oh man, really? You're not going to respond to the creator of the charts you've been using as "evidence" who's told you you're wrong? What a convenient time to drop out. We'll just assume you admit you're wrong :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almghty_gir Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yet again I want to post my clarification on graphics; quick info on this; (as I'm the developer of that tool), the generated charts DOES NOT represent user subscriptions. Instead the tool reads http://www.swtor.com/server-status and generate charts for server-loads based on given population field on the page. So basically a total value of 800 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 3.7 = ~ Heavy population in average. Where as a value of 600 (in y axis) for a total of 215 server means = 800 / 215 = 2.7 = Standard population. 0 -> offline 1 - 2 -> light 2 - 3-> standard 3 - 4 -> heavy 4 - 5 -> very heavy 5+ -> full So yet again, the game did not lost active subscribers last two weeks but instead average population of servers dropped down - which is a good thing (meaning less queues if any). In MMO launches, heavy populations are always expected and over time they normalize - which is already the case for SWTOR -- and those charts actually represent that. Can anybody with a post in first page of the thread can paste this explanation? So people can get an understanding of the charts before commenting on the OP's erroneous interpretation of them. i'd go so far as to say EVERYONE on the first page should copy/past this haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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