Daedricshots Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Posted in another thread. There's no denying that WoW looks much clearer / crisper than SWTOR does. Not only with textures, but with object layout (everything just fits much better). You're just going to be a mouth-foaming mess on your pandaren monk arent ya little guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionixx Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Just for fun... http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2010/12/WoW_Cataclysm_maxed___SGSSAA_55.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/851/swtor20120111normal.jpg/ You killed me bro. This is what ToR looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersomething Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Some pieces of ToR gear do not have High Res textures applied to them... and several environments certainly don't. WoW was like this in its 1-60 areas until they did their overhaul in Cata and put their "high-res" textures to the old world, and remade the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You're just going to be a mouth-foaming mess on your pandaren monk arent ya little guy? Compelling argument friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremk Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) One thing that no one seems to take into account is your comparing a game that has been out for, and has been constantly worked on, almost 8 years, versus TOR which has only been out for a couple weeks. TOR is already doing much better than WOW did in the same amount of time, AND if you would look over at the developer tracker, Bioware has announced that higher res graphics fixes are on the way, they just want to get the game off the ground first. Lets be smart people and not turn these forums into flame wars. theyre not flame wars, unless you're a frustrated teenager, most of the people who play it dont care. bottom line is most of us refuse to pay for bioware to improve a lacklustre product. its like buying a tv with cash and then paying $50 a month to Panasonic to make better TVs in the future. I pay for new content, not bug fixes. Patch 1.1 has little to nothing to offer. Edited January 13, 2012 by Tremk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 its like buying a tv with cash and then paying $50 a month to Panasonic to make better TVs in the future. That's a pretty terrible analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 That's a pretty terrible analogy. How so? Why play a worse MMO when you can play the better one? "they'll fix it eventually" is not a valid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Compelling argument friend. aint it tho? Kinda like arguing whose opinion is better, oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahana Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Anyone that thinks ANY new MMO's graphics are worse than WoW's.. Need to go to the doctor and have the cataracts removed from their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandervon Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My opinion in a nutshell: WoW's graphical saving grace is that it's style has always been very impressive. Despite a low polygon count, it continues to look great because of it's art. It's art has kind of hit its limit in the latest expansion however, as you can only slap on higher resolution textures for so long before people start to complain. SWTOR has a higher polygon count, but not nearly as much style, and so long as the textures remain in their current mediocre state, aren't as sharp as WoW's either. So technically speaking, SWTOR has *better* graphics, but WoW has a more impressive style. A lot of work goes into the art style of WoW, with almost the entire game intended to look like some epic painting that's been carefully crafted to be gorgeous from every angle. SWTOR is going to have some difficulty with this, as it's much more difficult to make things as impressive as a fantasy game in a sci-fi game, due to it not allowing the "magical" factor. WoW can pretty much use any idea it wants due to not really having any restrictions lore-wise as SWTOR does. Blizzard has stated that they have every intention of upgrading the vanilla race models in their next expansion, which I look forward to seeing. But I'm also looking forward to seeing the high res textures in SWTOR even more : ) So it's just art vs technology. Whatever fits your fancy, but I wouldn't really compare them. Apples and oranges really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 How so? Why play a worse MMO when you can play the better one? "they'll fix it eventually" is not a valid argument. Because it doesn't make sense. A better analogy using the same examples would be: "Buying a crappy TV then paying $15 a month to eventually get the features implemented that should have been with the original purchase" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksworgen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) One thing WoW has done right is they make their end-game Epic items stand-out when compared to the blues and other low level items. No mmo ever learned that. Rift is a good game but you can never tell if an outfit is an end-game outfit or not because it just looks like every other outfit out there. They need to make it stand out by making the colors vibrant or something idk. Edited January 13, 2012 by Volksworgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 aint it tho? Kinda like arguing whose opinion is better, oh wait. I'm sorry, but honestly think this: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1466/screenshot2012011115012.jpg Looks better than: http://i.imgur.com/JRUOb.jpg Don't even play the "yes, it's my opinion" card. It's quite obvious which game is better right now in terms of graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm sorry, but honestly think this: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1466/screenshot2012011115012.jpg Looks better than: http://i.imgur.com/JRUOb.jpg Don't even play the "yes, it's my opinion" card. It's quite obvious which game is better right now in terms of graphics. Obvious to you because you agree with what you like. Yes it is your opinion and i'll say it 2 million times if i have to. Its like comparing my windows background to yours, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm sorry, but honestly think this: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1466/screenshot2012011115012.jpg Looks better than: http://i.imgur.com/JRUOb.jpg Don't even play the "yes, it's my opinion" card. It's quite obvious which game is better right now in terms of graphics. How about this: http://i42.tinypic.com/2zdqi6h.jpg vs This: http://oi40.tinypic.com/syl5l4.jpg And that's the problem, it's all relative. Depending on the screenshot, area, gear, ect ect.. People need to realize that liking a game's art style more than the other is just opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Obvious to you because you agree with what you like. Yes it is your opinion and i'll say it 2 million times if i have to. Its like comparing my windows background to yours, who cares? You're either : trolling didn't look at the pictures. Take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksworgen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm sorry, but honestly think this: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1466/screenshot2012011115012.jpg Looks better than: http://i.imgur.com/JRUOb.jpg Don't even play the "yes, it's my opinion" card. It's quite obvious which game is better right now in terms of graphics. Einstein, graphics are not everything in a game. It's the art direction that counts. Through art you can create a good atmosphere without the need to have any high end graphics(WoW proves this). Rift has good graphics but it loses in art style. Only place that does have great graphics AND art style is Aldaren. Feels alive when compared to other zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonedawgz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 well theres now way around saying its your opinion, because it is your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokosan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My opinion in a nutshell: WoW's graphical saving grace is that it's style has always been very impressive. Despite a low polygon count, it continues to look great because of it's art. It's art has kind of hit its limit in the latest expansion however, as you can only slap on higher resolution textures for so long before people start to complain. SWTOR has a higher polygon count, but not nearly as much style, and so long as the textures remain in their current mediocre state, aren't as sharp as WoW's either. So technically speaking, SWTOR has *better* graphics, but WoW has a more impressive style. A lot of work goes into the art style of WoW, with almost the entire game intended to look like some epic painting that's been carefully crafted to be gorgeous from every angle. SWTOR is going to have some difficulty with this, as it's much more difficult to make things as impressive as a fantasy game in a sci-fi game, due to it not allowing the "magical" factor. WoW can pretty much use any idea it wants due to not really having any restrictions lore-wise as SWTOR does. Blizzard has stated that they have every intention of upgrading the vanilla race models in their next expansion, which I look forward to seeing. But I'm also looking forward to seeing the high res textures in SWTOR even more : ) So it's just art vs technology. Whatever fits your fancy, but I wouldn't really compare them. Apples and oranges really. this guy hit the nail on the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delekii Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm sorry, but honestly think this: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1466/screenshot2012011115012.jpg Looks better than: http://i.imgur.com/JRUOb.jpg Don't even play the "yes, it's my opinion" card. It's quite obvious which game is better right now in terms of graphics. It is your opinion. Lol. The detail on that stormtrooper armor is *********** attrocious, no antialiasing at all. The very few details on the armor are distorted and blurry. The WoW screenshot has a huge amount more detail and that detail is far clearer. It actually isn't really a matter of opinion, lol. You might like the STYLE of SWTOR better, but as far as graphical quality, it isn't really close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barracudastr Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Although Tera looks really great, you exagerate Aion graphics a tad with that picture. Better representation: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2009/09/Aion_Bilder_36.png The closer Aion gets to 3.0 the better it looks, though. Thats a screen shot from 2009.... lol Thats not what Aion looks liek today at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Einstein, graphics are not everything in a game. It's the art direction that counts. Through art you can create a good atmosphere without the need to have any high end graphics(WoW proves this). Rift has good graphics but it loses in art style. Only place that does have great graphics AND art style is Aldaren. Feels alive when compared to other zones. Of course gameplay > graphics.. who said otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You're either : trolling didn't look at the pictures. Take your pick. No my friend the troll here is you. When you took it upon yourself to make a thread bashing a game that you clearly hate yet still post on the forums, THAT is a troll. if wow is the be-all end-all of wonderous graphics and gameplay then AGAIN i ask the question, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? Oh thats right you're trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 No my friend the troll here is you. When you took it upon yourself to make a thread bashing a game that you clearly hate yet still post on the forums, THAT is a troll. if wow is the be-all end-all of wonderous graphics and gameplay then AGAIN i ask the question, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? Oh thats right you're trolling. Nope, not a troll. I did like this game while I was leveling, but end game is terrible as are the graphics and pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksworgen Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Of course gameplay > graphics.. who said otherwise? When you bring gameplay in then indeed it will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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