Larudior Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Just wanna show my support , arena ftw <3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocryphas Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 3 time gladiator here, quit wow season 4. I really hope swtor can add some more pvp oriented things, arena ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drengir Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Only thing I disagree with is the whole "no end of season" and "no rewards" points. No end of season: You will want this badly! For reseting the scoreboards (SC has it, and isn't that the biggest E-sport game?!) and actually giving people a goal at the end. Not having something to work towards is not very interesting. IE me and my friend wants to hit top 100 this season. With that said, I reckon a season should be up to a year in lenght. You Really dont want to finish the season before the most players havent even gotten time to gear up, get some practise and then climb the ladders. No rewards: Then why are we there? There has to be more for a reward than just the pure gear. Pretty much anyone with half a heart can get all the PvP gear in a game (would not be very funny if only the top 5% actually got the gear). But there also has to be more exclusive rewards such as this season only titles, achievements, mounts and other things you can brag about. My two cents: Without these things, there wont be much incentive to actually participating in these highly competative parts of the game. Also, I would love a 3vs3 arena bracket! No matter how broken the PvP balance was in WoW, I still always ended up there. Why? Because it is by far The most awarding/infuriating form of PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drengir Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Arenas ruin PvP. Great way of stating your point! Would you dare to elaborate?.. /ignored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drengir Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Wrong! Arena was only popular because that was the only way to get Toptier PvP gear. No one but the PvPers who couldnt get into large PvP guilds liked arena. What arena does to an MMO is kill the PvP community and destroy PvP guilds. World PvP is very popular when supported and incentivized. However, when content is not incentivized and when Arena's give better gear then no one will world PvP because all their time is spent trying to get Arena gear. Saying BW should implement Arena's is tantamount to saying BW should release Heroic 4mans which give on par or better gear then raids. That would kill raids and large PvE guilds in a night. I disagree, Arena is so immensly popular for more reasons than just that it was the way to get the gear. It's also because it's one of the best ways of actually proving your own skill! In a open world PvP enviroment there is such an massive amount of chance involved. Even the warzones have too much of a gamble involved in them. Did I get the right team-mates? did we have the right setup? Did half my team just go afk? Did 3 of them just leave because we were under? Arena will probably always be the most loved/hated form of PvP. Loved by the ones who actually have skill, hated by all the ones who think they have skill, but actually just gets steamrolled as soon as they get past 1k in rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missnlink Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 First off, I would LOVE to see arena in this game. Arena is a huge reason that WoW is so successful. For SWTOR to do it it needs to be done right and not like WoW had originally started it. This game has endless resources in terms of mana so the arena will be greatly different from what WoW is currently. Can Bioware make arena in this game successful is the real question. Sure, a TON of us want to see it happen, but you have to do it in the right way. Here is to hoping they get it right if they decide to go in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemaster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I have stopped playing my Republic 50 until there is some skill-based pvp. Ilum is a joke and Warzones are 10v2 with each warzone ending prematurely. If nothing is done, I will not be resubbing next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 arenas? LoL is thataway ----------------------> I think you will find the overwhelming majority does not want to suffer the whiplash class changes that are inherent to arena 'esport' tournaments. Maybe they could create a second game for just arena and only arena, but you will never see WoW style arenas here. Or maybe make it a mini-game where everyone can choose a character and all balance is restricted to that mini-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemaster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 arenas? LoL is thataway ----------------------> Not sure if trolling or just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softlyz Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 +1 do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not sure if trolling or just stupid. You haven't tried League of Legends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemaster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 You haven't tried League of Legends? You think League of Legends is arena? Please. LoL is herpderp farming creeps while running back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 You think League of Legends is arena? Please. LoL is herpderp farming creeps while running back and forth. Apparently you are confused. There is no farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Itharius Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I don't think you can balance cover-based classes around 3v3, period. It would be so easy to just focus fire down a sniper or gunslinger. Then they would have to increase sniper/gunslinger mobility and survivability to the point where it would either homogenize the advanced class or make it overpowered outside arenas. I think 8v8 is as small as PvP should get. Edited January 19, 2012 by Lord_Itharius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggathor Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Didn't all you guys cancel your subs yesterday? On topic i support arena, but not until the ability delay is dealt with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemaster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Apparently you are confused. There is no farming. So when they're shooting at those green things that give them money, what do you call that? I think you moba heroes call it creeping, but that is NOT farming, now is it? Again, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 So when they're shooting at those green things that give them money, what do you call that? I think you moba heroes call it creeping, but that is NOT farming, now is it? Again, please. I might have the wrong game... but the one I played in beta had no PVE at all. You pick a character and enter a match. All character classes are known and equal. That's real esport' PvP. Your problem is you want to make THIS game an arena game and it is never going to happen. You are wasting your time whining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsemaster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I might have the wrong game... but the one I played in beta had no PVE at all. You pick a character and enter a match. All character classes are known and equal. That's real esport' PvP. Your problem is you want to make THIS game an arena game and it is never going to happen. You are wasting your time whining about it. My problem is that I want balanced, skill-based endgame PvP in this game, and that seems to be an unrealistic expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBuddhist Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 My problem is that I want balanced, skill-based endgame PvP in this game, and that seems to be an unrealistic expectation. As you say... it is your problem. Many don't want this game to have worry about arena balance. And as I said before... these guys are not going to make the arena mistake WoW did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustfinder Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 No arenas please. Stop trying to make this into WoW. If you want arenas go make a panda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junebugs Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Really only reason i would like arena is cause sometimes i just want to kill people.. Why do MMOs refuse to put just a Team Deathmatch game mode 8v8 Deathmatch on Huttballs map would keep me entertained forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonDs Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 This is a question I have. Will it mean changes to chactors to make things balanced. If it doesn't. I would love to have the option to go and watch maybe even some kind of simple chearing system for spectators. If they have to nerf classes then I am against it. But if they don't it could be very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larudior Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 BUMP. fellow arena supporters let's keep this thread alive , we need to make our voices heard , even if we might not get arenas atleast we tried. TTTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnVl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 ...I have friends that make tens of thousands of dollars every arena season selling gladiator and rank 1 in World of Warcraft, the only reason anyone pays that kind of money is because they get to keep something after the season is over. Not too many people are going to pay big money for someone to play their account if there is no reward they get to keep. (Again better explanation in the video, can’t seem to get the point across in text) You are going to have less friends now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BegaTasty Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 yer thats what we need, more wow gaming... The game is already full of battleground gfarming exploits an cheats, arena would really top it off...... lets face it, if you wanna put a bullet in the games head, arena will do it. Specially with GW2 about to be released. No serious pvper tolerates arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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