DevonDs Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I’m not getting something. As I researched PVP and especially PVP servers, I repeatedly heard that the idea that higher level characters will kill lower level characters is normal and expected. I heard again and again that getting killed by a higher level character is part of the PVP experience and if you are on a PVP server you need to expect this. I would think that this Higher vs. lower violence woudl also hold true in PVP areas on PVE servers. I am confused by the people who seem to be expressing that their game experience will be seriously hampered because there will be higher level characters when they get into the game and do their PVP. This will be my first foray into PVP….What am I missing, won’t most people who start this game in the coming years and months have this same experience? So the question in a nutshell is….If getting killed by higher level characters is intrinsic to the PVP experience then why does the fact that there will be higher level characters when you start the game make the experience less than optimal. Rational answers are appreciated, since my guild will be PVP, I really want to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Becuse THEY want to be the ones doing the ganking....silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedel Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I think what you're trying to understand is just whining and irrational complaints. Getting in a few days later WONT make a difference on PvP servers, except to those select few that try to play a game 24/7 when it's released and be the first to max out. For those in that category, I guess you should have pre-ordered earlier Edited December 14, 2011 by driedel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asquinol Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Becuse THEY want to be the ones doing the ganking....silly Yeah that ^^^^ You see... the ones that QQ about getting ganked are really just QQ'ing because they are not the gank-er but the gank-ee. Real PvP'rs don't QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boonah Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Real pvpers also dont go to lowbie zones on their level 50 and skilessly gank level 20s either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamafarr Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Go to a PVE server . You will be able to level in peace and at 50 you will be able to defend yourself in the PVP section . The kill the newbie is what a PVP server is all about . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Turn on your mental mute button. You're being confused by trolls. Ignore them. PVP servers are fun, exciting and --at times-- a little frustrating. But don't freak. The level of QQ pre-launch on any forum is off the charts. Again, ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Real pvpers also dont go to lowbie zones on their level 50 and skilessly gank level 20s either This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA_Wookie Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Real pvpers also dont go to lowbie zones on their level 50 and skilessly gank level 20s either /5char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gankdalf_ Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Real pvpers also dont go to lowbie zones on their level 50 and skilessly gank level 20s either I do and I am real and I like PvP, I just kicked myself and it hurt, reality test = pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boboforlife Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I cant wait to gank....so what class will be the gank class anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomag Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Pvp is fun only on equal terms, like a duel. You don't stand a chance against someone 1000000000000000 levels above. Such ganks, while still pvp per-se, don't show any true victory or any display of skill, it's just the most basic way of pissing off another human being and being safe while at it. It's about lamers being lame. True warriors would never engage in a fight against a weak opponent, unless they have to. Another example of a lamer is the stalker. The guy who plays a stealth class and is not higher level but, in his cowardice, only attacks you when you are in a weakened state (having mobs on you or simple at low health). Another example of one-sided pvp. Let's not discuss gank squads as they are as much about pvp as I'm a rocket scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuShang Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I could see the point where the community levels as a whole and has the unique low-to-mid range PvP battle experience without 1 or 2 capped players just destroying everyone. But we won't be missing out on that anyways so relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcake Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Pvp is fun only on equal terms, like a duel. You don't stand a chance against someone 1000000000000000 levels above. Such ganks, while still pvp per-se, don't show any true victory or any display of skill, it's just the most basic way of pissing off another human being and being safe while at it. It's about lamers being lame. True warriors would never engage in a fight against a weak opponent, unless they have to. Another example of a lamer is the stalker. The guy who plays a stealth class and is not higher level but, in his cowardice, only attacks you when you are in a weakened state (having mobs on you or simple at low health). Another example of one-sided pvp. Let's not discuss gank squads as they are as much about pvp as I'm a rocket scientist. sounds like you should go back to wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Unlike other MMOs you don't go to neutral faction planets you can get to eachother easily until around level 25. So there won't be horribly imbalanced ganking. Plus the planets are so large + group phases/class phases its easier to avoid unless you want to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arutassin Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 The only reason they have to moan is that if a realm is all opened at once, you get massive open world PvP battles as the players on the en masse lvl group all hit the same quest area and have a war over everything. That massive PvP battle is fun and what a lot of PvP players enjoy about a launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boonah Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I do and I am real and I like PvP, I just kicked myself and it hurt, reality test = pass You're also called Gankdalf which says more about you than i could ever articulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomag Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 sounds like you should go back to wow And sounds like you're 12 yo, either mentally or physically as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i always play on a pvp server just to learn to watch my back, honestly some of the best raiders are pvpers why cause they are aware of there surroundings and know there class when it comes to cooldowns and such. plus this is a War after all, ill never understand ppl on pve servers for that matter. Oh look a enemy let me /wave........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varcan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Its like a fraternity, but they wanted to skip the initiation. Now they're sad pandas cause they can't cruise to 50 with no one bothering them. However, relatively its a lot easier to lvl on PvP servers during the first few months of server start. After that people get bored and ganking becomes more prevalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomag Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 i always play on a pvp server just to learn to watch my back, honestly some of the best raiders are pvpers why cause they are aware of there surroundings and know there class when it comes to cooldowns and such. plus this is a War after all, ill never understand ppl on pve servers for that matter. Oh look a enemy let me /wave........ We are talking about gankers not pvp-ers. I hardly think the pro pve raiders got their skills from world pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quineverre Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Just get friends and you will be fine. Might die a few times. Might die a lot if you are like me and not very good at pvp. Just have fun with your ingame friends and laugh it of on teamspeak. Or trow a huge tantrum on teamspeak and have them laugh at you.Its all fine. Thats what guilds are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokad Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 We are talking about gankers not pvp-ers. I hardly think the pro pve raiders got their skills from world pvp. Red is dead , period , using the situation to your advantage is what you are supposed to do. Whining about a stealther using , gasp , stealth , to catch you unaware and in the best possible situation for them to win just is hilarious. Dueling is not pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopp Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This. if its red, its dead...sad but true. Thats the nature of a PvP server. Everyone gets pwned by a high level every now and then, and everyone gets ganked now and then. We all just get used to it, because we expect it on a PvP server. There are only a few reasons why someone rolls on a Pvp server.But mainly its because we like the test of skills that come with fighting REAL people, not programed npc with crappy AI..This type of post always reminds me of Mordrid server in DaoC back in the day. When you hit lvl 20...your flaged Pvp tp EVERYONE, not just the two other factions..damn that was fun, hardest,longest grind to 50 in any game i ever played lol:D... but yea if people cry because they get peter-rolled by high lvl players, log off n re-roll on a pve server or find a group.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTrov Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 In my experience of launches in other games, most people will be too busy leveling up to worry about ganking. Sure there will be a few high level people who go to noobie zones to do ganking but if this is the case then move to a different part of the zone. Things normally become more of a problem as you level up a a bit but at the end of the game I have never found it a huge problem, if you get camped go make a cup of tea read your emails and smile at the thought of your gankers sitting there doing nothing. HTH P.s. on a personal note I will be rolling on a PvE server because I cant be bothered with the gankers. I like a bit of PvP but I dont like being at risk of being attack all the time I play but this is just personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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