Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just think about that... if they went with the proven pre-NGE SWG model and made it new and improved. Hell, they could have put the SAME EXACT classes in the game and it would have been amazing, just updated the graphics. Why does no one make a game like SWG?! FUUUUUU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) It wouldn't be a good story-driven game. SWG was all about COMMUNITY. Story lacked and sucked not to mention that it's not even close to be considered canon. Yes there was something special but SWTOR is KOTOR. It's dumb to think they would go for a sandbox style. Edited January 8, 2012 by Idunhavaname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainwen Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 No it would have sucked as badly as SWG did in the end, only earlier this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesperascit Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Just think about that... if they went with the proven pre-NGE SWG model and made it new and improved. Hell, they could have put the SAME EXACT classes in the game and it would have been amazing, just updated the graphics. Why does no one make a game like SWG?! FUUUUUU I gotta say i would be quite displeased if they did that. I didn't like SWG. I played it because my friends played it but it was a lot less fun than SWTOR is for me. Edit: Because SoE would ruin it. That's another thing....SOE is just terrible. Edited January 8, 2012 by Vesperascit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 It wouldn't be a good story-driven game. SWG was all about COMMUNITY. Story lacked and sucked not to mention that it's not even close to be considered canon. Yes there was something special but SWTOR is KOTOR. It's dumb to think they would go for a sandbox style. I didn't mean make SWTOR a sandbox, I meant scrap this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grammarye Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Possibly because, according to compiled data, SWG never managed more than 300k concurrent subscriptions? I'm happy to be told otherwise if someone can find compiled data elsewhere. That we as individuals found a game to be the greatest thing since sliced bread does not mean the rest of the planet must agree. I didn't mean make SWTOR a sandbox, I meant scrap this mess. You're going to have to be a bit more specific about 'this mess' if you don't mean a sandbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't mean make SWTOR a sandbox, I meant scrap this mess. Which mess? SWG is a sandbox game. I love SWG but literally it only had was community to be specific player created cities. The story itself wasn't that good even the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viera Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just think about that... if they went with the proven pre-NGE SWG model and made it new and improved. Hell, they could have put the SAME EXACT classes in the game and it would have been amazing, just updated the graphics. Why does no one make a game like SWG?! FUUUUUU Sure, and then it would have....bombed and tanked exactly like pre-NGE SWG did. Huh. Imagine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fro_do_fraggins Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It wouldn't be a good story-driven game. SWG was all about COMMUNITY. Story lacked and sucked not to mention that it's not even close to be considered canon. Yes there was something special but SWTOR is KOTOR. It's dumb to think they would go for a sandbox style. I doubt KOTOR is particularly canon either. They pretend technology and aesthetics have stayed the same for thousands of years. This was done simply because Lucas forced them to use a time period far before anything Lucas himself would write about. But to capitalize on the IP they didn't want to shake up things very much visually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedstery Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Erm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) BUT THIS GAME WAS JUST RELEASEDBUT THIS GAME WAS JUST RELEASEDBUT THIS GAME WAS JUST RELEASED please respond Edited January 8, 2012 by Mookz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiricahua Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It wouldn't be a good story-driven game. SWG was all about COMMUNITY. Story lacked and sucked not to mention that it's not even close to be considered canon. Yes there was something special but SWTOR is KOTOR. It's dumb to think they would go for a sandbox style. Sandbox style rocked. This game with it's emphasis on Sith instead of empire is twisted and demented. The kind of stuff the Sith makes you do to attain dark side points should be show cased in the TV show Criminal Minds. That whole not canon argument is crazy. And, what's up with the creepy English accents for everyone that is Sith. That's reason enough to be forced to play republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvamAkorahil Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just think about that... if they went with the proven pre-NGE SWG model and made it new and improved. Hell, they could have put the SAME EXACT classes in the game and it would have been amazing, just updated the graphics. Why does no one make a game like SWG?! FUUUUUU sandbox mmos were good back then, today they are not successful anymore because of wow. you allways need someoen to take you at your hand now days. anythign like SWG would horribly fail. Eve is the only remnant of this system, and only because its so complex could it hold its 350k subcribers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunhavaname Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I doubt KOTOR is particularly canon either. They pretend technology and aesthetics have stayed the same for thousands of years. This was done simply because Lucas forced them to use a time period far before anything Lucas himself would write about. But to capitalize on the IP they didn't want to shake up things very much visually. Technology did change. Notice how ships in KOTOR era are MUCH smaller and less powerful. Bacta also replaced Kolto, new models are created. What happened is just like Mass Effect, technology plateaued. You really can't do much after you hit galactic civilization but try to bend space and time more (which you can alredy do),move to another galaxy, or try to acess a parallel universe. What they did in KOTOR canon is they only picked the major events that happened with the character but leave alot of it unexplained so they don't dismiss character choices as canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Which mess? SWG is a sandbox game. I love SWG but literally it only had was community to be specific player created cities. The story itself wasn't that good even the intro.This. Keep in mind that it was estimated that SWG had less than active 25000 subs even before they announced the closure. At the peak the numbers were only around 250,000. SWTOR has 350,000 concurrent players according to Bioware, with maybe 2 million subs by now. I would like to see elements from SWG in this game, mainly those that drive community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 This. Keep in mind that it was estimated that SWG had less than active 25000 subs even before they announced the closure. At the peak the numbers were only around 250,000. SWTOR has 350,000 concurrent players according to Bioware, with maybe 2 million subs by now. I would like to see elements from SWG in this game, mainly those that drive community. It's ok, on the 19th SWTOR will be down to 250k where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNyxus Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I would have to disagree. I love SWG and wish it was still going, but an upgrade would not make for a truly great game. However, if you were to combine SWTOR with many of the SWG systems, you would have an EPIC game for sure. 1) Actual voice chat in the game so you can communicate with group members even in PUGS2) The crafting system was superior to any crafting system in any game so far.3) In game housing4) True space combat and building your OWN ship5) PvP means something6) Better trade market and player vendors7) Player content/ Player cities8) The mapping system was phenomenal. I loved being able to create my own waypoints. The truth is that no MMO will ever be our own personal "perfect" MMO. You have to take it as it is and either enjoy it or find something else. I only stinks that this is the ONLY Star Wars MMO available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's ok, on the 19th SWTOR will be down to 250k where it belongs.Lern2Read Assuming you are right. SWTOR - 250k concurrent players vs. SWG - 250k subscribers.... SWTOR is outdoing SWG at it's peak on subscriber numbers by about 8:1 and that's just in the first month or so. SWTOR shifted 2million units in the 4 weeks. SWG shift 1million units in the first 4 years... Should add that I was a loyal SWG subscriber for 7 years. Loved the game, but let's not try and paint it as something it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Lern2Read Assuming you are right. SWTOR - 250k concurrent players vs. SWG - 250k subscribers.... SWTOR is outdoing SWG at it's peak on subscriber numbers by about 8:1 and that's just in the first month or so. SWTOR shifted 2million units in the 4 weeks. SWG shift 1million units in the first 4 years... Should add that I was a loyal SWG subscriber for 7 years. Loved the game, but let's not try and paint it as something it was not. the only people who didnt play swg were morans who couldnt understand advanced concepts of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I would have to disagree. I love SWG and wish it was still going, but an upgrade would not make for a truly great game. However, if you were to combine SWTOR with many of the SWG systems, you would have an EPIC game for sure. 1) Actual voice chat in the game so you can communicate with group members even in PUGS 2) The crafting system was superior to any crafting system in any game so far. 3) In game housing 4) True space combat and building your OWN ship 5) PvP means something 6) Better trade market and player vendors 7) Player content/ Player cities 8) The mapping system was phenomenal. I loved being able to create my own waypoints. The truth is that no MMO will ever be our own personal "perfect" MMO. You have to take it as it is and either enjoy it or find something else. I only stinks that this is the ONLY Star Wars MMO available.These are all things I would like to see in the future and I do feel hopeful that at least some of this stuff is already in development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 the only people who didnt play swg were morans who couldnt understand advanced concepts of the gameWhat's a moran??? Sir: Your post fails... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookz Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 What's a moran??? Sir: Your post fails... A moran is a catch-22, so in this regard, madam: you're post fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voqar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nobody woudl play it and it's be another failed MMORPG... Why would anybody copy a failed game if they want to have players, pay for the game dev, and make money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapazo Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I didn't like the use of software-based Star Wars Galaxies bots to grind away and gain XP automatically. Player did let the computer to kill the same animals and monsters for experience points. I prefer SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viera Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 A moran is a catch-22, so in this regard, madam: you're post fails. Moran (Maasai) or Il-murran, warriors among the Maasai of Kenya Moran (surname), Irish surname (and list of people with that name) Morán, Spanish surname Moran (Syriac), Syriac title for Jesus Christ Baron Moran, British peerage title Moran, a female Irish Quidditch player in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Moran Dam, a proposed dam on the Fraser River at Moran, British Columbia, Canada MORAN, an acronym for Multi-Operator Radio Access Network Also, it would be "your post fails". "You are post fails" is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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