Ljungen Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Impressive to say the least.Going to be interesting to see how it is after 20/1. And regarding people saying about empty zones.On my server (Hydian Way) we have around 170 ppl in Imperial Fleet during prime time (19-22 CET), beginner planets are around 60-70.Voss, Belsavis and Ilum are mostly around 30-40 and Nar Shadaa, Tatooine etc are around 80ish.So atleast on my server we have people everywhere and the masses seem to be around lvl 25-30 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswizzle Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'm not entirely convinced TOR sold 2mil copies either. VGCharts is hardly a reliable source and TOR only broke 1mil copies like a week-two weeks ago. So for them to double their copies sold in that amount of time leads me to believe some numbers have been fudged. And even if they actually did sell 2mil copies, it's still not that grand. While other mmos didn't necessarily sell 2mil copies in their first month, most of them sold 1-1.5mil copies. So close enough. More like 500-700k copies, but close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelColt Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 More like 500-700k copies, but close enough lol? You know you've won when the opponent resorts to blatant lying. I'd suggest you do your homework. Pretty much every big name MMO nets around 1-1.5m sales in the first month. This is cold, hard, undeniable fact. Most MMOs will sit around 500-700k SUBS, same as TOR will be in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightmgl Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) dude you've said what you've said. and that was so funny and untrue that i pointed it out for you - counting every mmo that breaks at least 600-700k initial sales then goes flop for a nickel you wont even have a dollar. because in fact there were 2-3 of those, may be 4, i CBA to count. that means you cant even construct a proper hyperbole, how can you be taken seriously? Exagerration and Hyperbole OMG! Its meant to be a joke. Does not detract from the point, all judgments on this game are meaningless until we see retention. Judging by your other posts, understanding of a joke, and your poor English I wouldn't expect you to understand economics either. Edited January 11, 2012 by Lightmgl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswizzle Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 lol? You know you've won when the opponent resorts to blatant lying. I'd suggest you do your homework. Pretty much every big name MMO nets around 1-1.5m sales in the first month. This is cold, hard, undeniable fact. Most MMOs will sit around 500-700k SUBS, same as TOR will be in a few months. Keep living in fantasy land bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobb Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Haters gonna hate. If you do not like the game, feel free to not waste our time with your opinions. We don't care about what you think, and you are not special ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelColt Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Keep living in fantasy land bro Facts speak louder then you ever could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskyJax Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So what retention % are all you negative nellies expecting?Keeping in mind that 1% = 20,000 subs the way some here have been talking SWTOR is going to lose more then 95% of their subs in the first month..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelColt Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 So what retention % are all you negative nellies expecting? Keeping in mind that 1% = 20,000 subs the way some here have been talking SWTOR is going to lose more then 95% of their subs in the first month..... I figure it'll do a little better then most other MMOs given fanboys. So I'd say TOR will hover around 600-800k subs after six months. Which, according to the people in charge, would be more then enough to generate a profit, so meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNonphixionx Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Best game ever made. Edited January 11, 2012 by xNonphixionx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 the higher they reach, the harder they fall. :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septusmortis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 well they reached and they are falling... http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ Simple fact 25% less people logging in since go live and the free time has not even run out yet.... OMG these figures are gonna look horrid once the 21st comes... What these graphs say (even taking into account seasonal adjustment the trend continued downward over the xmas period) is the trend is straight down and thats still in the free play period... the thing to look at is teh high peaks which are evenings when people log in!!! no arguing cold hard facts This means that after the initial 2 million bought 500k are no longer logging in AND ITS FREE...! this game is freefalling faster than any other MMO in history... except maybe FF Go argue those figures SWTOR (So Waste Time Online R3T@RDS!) fanboys!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediBryad Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Or it just means that after the Christmas holiday people are back on track with their busy lives? Like university and such. I for one am not playing as often because I can't, I have other things I need to do. And I'm sure there are lots more like me. I'm sorry those stats (at the moment) prove absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethzeppelinx Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Considering neither Diablo or WoW are RPGs this means TOR is actually at the top of the list. EXCUSE ME? Please tell me your joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcova Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Nope, the higher they reach, the harder it is to go back to pandas. Leave fast, before it's too hard. Enjoy your dating simulator man. Hope your companion does it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaonnor Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Not to mention these stats are bogus. I'm not a GW fan, have never played it before even, but they have sold over 6 million... I'm pretty sure EQ has sold quite a few as well as Mass Effect, which is also an RPG. Please get your facts right before making some crazy thread. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaonnor Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Also - the highest selling RPG in the world is Pokemon at 215 million... only 213 million to go SWTOR! FInal Fantasy ring any bells? Pretty sure they've sold a lot more than 2 million as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/ Week one: 1.4 million soldWeek two: 200k soldWeek three: 42k sold You do realize thats a bigger drop off than DA2 right? Edited January 13, 2012 by Blackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfourz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 looking forward to seeing subscription charts after free month titanic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsheraII Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I seriously put little faith in a list that classifies Diablo as an RPG. I love Diablo, Diablo I even more than Diablo II (and there's no way I'm gonna bother with cash-shop Diablo III), but Diablo is NOT an RPG by any means. It's a Hack and Slash And since Cata-clysma is merely an EXPANSION to WoW, one that only cost them subscribtions at that, it simply shouldn't be on that list either. Meaning: SW:TOR should actually be #2 on that list. I'd actually even say that WoW is not an RPG. It's also a Hack and Slash, just like Diablo. Making it an MMOHnS. Good luck finding ANY MMO that is actually an MMORPG. SW:TOR is actually the only one that could loosely qualify for that category, technical limitations permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'd actually even say that WoW is not an RPG. It's also a Hack and Slash, just like Diablo. Making it an MMOHnS. Good luck finding ANY MMO that is actually an MMORPG. SW:TOR is actually the only one that could loosely qualify for that category, technical limitations permitting. Why? Because there is a lot of talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterRyanW Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So basically if we have 75% loss of subscribers from box sales, the game will still be profitable. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrolight Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'd actually even say that WoW is not an RPG. It's also a Hack and Slash, just like Diablo. Making it an MMOHnS. Good luck finding ANY MMO that is actually an MMORPG. SW:TOR is actually the only one that could loosely qualify for that category, technical limitations permitting. You linked to the definition of hack and slash but did you read it? WoW cannot no matter how hard to try and spin it fit into the Hack and Slash category. It is an RPG, not as pure as some but it is still a Role Playing Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsheraII Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Why? Because there is a lot of talking? No, it's because your characters' PERSONALITY is woven into the game mechanics. It's not just the talking. It's the DECISIONS. A hack and slash like WoW doesn't allow your character to have a personality. A hack and slash won't send you on a mission to rescue a pirate and give you the decision to rescue him or let him have a little accident. A hack and slash game won't give you a detour because you killed the captain instead of sparing his life. A hack and slash game doesn't open up some avenues of gearing your character while closing other paths because your character behaves nice or behaves like a tool. It's about your characters'personality. THAT is RPG. RPG isn't a matter of levels, getting better equipment or stats. Those are only a framework meant to constrain the player and prevent him from powerplaying like an idiot. Without them, the 3-minute newbie would oneshot the endgame raidboss, and that obviously makes for a very short game experience. So that is why there are these things called levels and gear and stats. They're not the essence of the RPG. They're only there to make the ride last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashley Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Copies bought =/= Renewed Subscriptions When they release how many people have actually subbed to the game I will decide for myself if its a huge success. Edited January 13, 2012 by Kashley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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