Auxili Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) -snip- 100% wrong, but I won't go into detail. Many threads do that just fine. Enjoy trying to convince bioware to keep the game unbalanced so you can benefit being part of the zerg. Edited January 17, 2012 by Auxili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheldras Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think SWTOR made the same mistake WAR made, too many servers at launch...populations spread far too thin across the servers. Hell, on my server Belsavis might have only 10 republic players on it at any given time. You remember all those cries about login times, and how they whine at BW they wanna play, and wait times are ridiculous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karcyon Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Empire will be the only necessary faction on pvp servers. You'll get the full warzone pvp experience, you'll steamroll on illum, and there won't be any reason to go republic. Lol... talk about delusional disorder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auxili Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 You remember all those cries about login times, and how they whine at BW they wanna play, and wait times are ridiculous? Only because everyone rolled Empire. Republic players had to wait in 20min queues only to find themselves in a fleet with 100 people in it, meanwhile Empire people had to wait in the same 20min queue to find themselves in a fleet with 300 people in it. Who was getting crapped on, you tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auxili Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Lol... talk about delusional disorder! It has happened in other MMOs that only had 2 factions where developers ignored the underdog faction. What are you basing your rebuttal against, opinion without experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandoa Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Situation Critical on the PVP server "The Kumungah" EU Soz about the bad english Yesterday 16 january 8pm Republic fleet- 26 to 35 playersEmpire flett- around 200 You can confirm this just loging in this server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 There's nothing you can do to really make your playerbase like the Rep side more than the Imperial side. It's a matter of what the fan already likes. Me personally, I prefer Republic because I enjoy the story and what-not more along with some of the abilities. Unless they say, oh, we've added Yoda's race or, you can now play as Luke/Darth Vader, there's really nothing they can do. It's all a matter of what most players prefer honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Hermit Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Since when is the Republic side a ghost town? Since beta. I've had to skip two flashpoints in a row now and quite a few heroics simply because it's impossible to get a group for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honelith Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hmm, I think the best thing to do is roll Empire, that seems to be where the playerbase is. I've been Republic since early start and it's really, really, really quiet. I like playing my Trooper, but I hate soloing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keano Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 It was obvious that Empire would be more popular than Republic, they could've done something radical like abandoning the 2 faction standard MMO setup but it's probably too late for that.I'm one of the people that rerolled to republic for the PvP queues, haven't really noticed any problems with lack of people, apart from basically giving up on all heroic 4 quests.But yeah, theres no chance of world PvP being interesting with the population imbalances, merging servers won't help either as I'm sure overall Empire still out number Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelBorg Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Empire will be the only necessary faction on pvp servers. You'll get the full warzone pvp experience, you'll steamroll on illum, and there won't be any reason to go republic. [...] Bioware wants the empire to have a better pvp experience, and they're implementing more same-faction warzones because of this. However, they have not done anyone to support the republic and their ridiculously small population count (compared to empire) on pvp servers. Why does bioware feel the need to support Empire pvp, but not Republic pvp? Exactly that! While same faction warzones seem to be a great idea on the first look, they are a really terrible idea on the second one, because they remove one of the major incentives of the more populated faction to reroll and balance things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papichulio Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 *** can they really do though? people chose imperial because its the "horde" of this game and people love playing the bad guys. its not like hundreds of thousands of people got together and decided to create a population imbalance. passive faction wide bonuses to the republic wouldn't be a good solution, and faction transfers would take months to implement with no real proof that it would balance things out (unless they restrict republic to imperial transfer) Give the unbalanced republic players a free transfer to another server so that the republic side gets filled up. Remember that it's not only PvP servers suffering. Bacca's Blade (PvE) at prime time on a weekday has between 15 and 38 persons on the fleet. The only flashpoints done are by help of some higher level guildie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technotica Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hmm, I am on a EU PVE-RP server (Trask Ulgo) and our sides are pretty balanced. The only imbalance are the many sith compared to none sith on the empire side. I guess RP servers don't necessarily have the imbalancing problem since people play there for different reasons than on pure pve and pvp servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Vs_Blue Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 so it's BW's fault that people do not roll republic on pvp/rppvp servers? Aha...ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufutiz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yea the republic on my server just got to a all time low. Bloodworthy: Republic Fleet 61 peoples last night... Still one of the most populated Republic realms though. Enjoy, it's way worse everywhere else on european PvP realms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufutiz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) so it's BW's fault that people do not roll republic on pvp/rppvp servers? Aha...ok. Who do you think is at fault? It is not as easy as just blaming somebody and calling it a day. Nobody can completely change what the players want to do in the game in the end. But the only guys able to influence it are the Bioware devs. Bonus XP, valor, credits right from launch for Republic characters is just one way they could have given incentive to people to roll Republic. There are undoubtedly more but I am not getting paid to find a solution. I am the one paying. Edited January 17, 2012 by mufutiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papichulio Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Just let me move to a more populated server a with my republic char, so that we get at least like 10 healthy servers. And those servers left with only empire players can play pve and pvp warzones, they still get everything, except open world pvp (which is near non existant anyways on the servers with low republic numbers...). It's really bad you know for some republic sides, where they can hardly even form groups for flashpoints and where they have to skip heroics or come back for those later when they are grey ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzrknight Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Man ... balancing factions is something incredible hard , in this game they tryed to do this by adding the possibility of joining both sides on the same server , but they did not understand many people will not jump to the other side if they cant share their gold/items and so on from their high lvl chars with those new ones. They are doing their part and trying , give it a few , and when legacy kicks in maybe it will have the features , that will drag people to make reps alts. Edited January 17, 2012 by rzrknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufutiz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Official response from a German CM !! Was das Ungleichgewicht bei den Fraktionen angeht, da können wir nicht wirklich was dran ändern denn was für eine Fraktion ihr spielen wollt werden wir euch nicht vorschreiben. roughly translated: Concerning the faction population imballance, we are unable to do anything since we will not dictate which faction players choose. time to reroll guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethusa Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Since when is the Republic side a ghost town? Since last night. Last night every warzone we entered as Republic. We had 1 or 2 people missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockyda Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) so your saying it's like the rebel alliance vs the empire? OOHHH NOOOEEESS! wtb Jedi Skywalker Edited January 17, 2012 by Lockyda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colow_Leper Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 It is a glaring issue. I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking at reasons for the lopsided pops. Two faction games seem to always have this problem. That's one of the reasons that I was amazed that they only had Republic/Sith - the bounty hunters/smugglers (and probably a whole load more classes) should be a third group - neutral! (I actually think that the poster here was advocating reducing the factions - but still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papichulio Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Official response from a German CM !! roughly translated: Concerning the faction population imballance, we are unable to do anything since we will not dictate which faction players choose. time to reroll guys What a stupid response is that... ahhh well, at least we have this answer now before the end of the first month. And to the republics that wish to play on after the free month, they know now that they better start an empire character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufutiz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 What a stupid response is that... ahhh well, at least we have this answer now before the end of the first month. And to the republics that wish to play on after the free month, they know now that they better start an empire character. If you reroll now, depending on how much time you take you might be level 50 when the new same-faction WZs are released. Or at least won't have to wait much longer for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionRampant Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Or quit. I will not play Empire just because BW can't balance their own game. It's not like I'll be missing much anyway - the game is reasonable but hardly ground breaking or massively addictive. I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one voting with my wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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