Amonkiratainted Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oacan Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 true dat...most pre-mades tend to be a group of level 50's ready to domnate the warzone and "display their skill" in game...thats SWTOR for you, and thats why i unsubbed 2 days into playing the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitokondria Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 true dat...most pre-mades tend to be a group of level 50's ready to domnate the warzone and "display their skill" in game...thats SWTOR for you, and thats why i unsubbed 2 days into playing the game madlol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogfatherxx Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 true dat...most pre-mades tend to be a group of level 50's ready to domnate the warzone and "display their skill" in game...thats SWTOR for you, and thats why i unsubbed 2 days into playing the game Yet you still take the time to come to the forums. Yeah, I believe you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitokondria Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yet you still take the time to come to the forums. Yeah, I believe you... lolqfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurro Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Did you know that premade means a maximum of 4 people? What is holding you back to get your own friends playing with you pvp, wait you got none? Maybe roll a singleplayer RPG if you can't socialize well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 But... the queue times! I don't want to actually have to compete! That's for nerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdinosaur Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Did you know that premade means a maximum of 4 people? What is holding you back to get your own friends playing with you pvp, wait you got none? Maybe roll a singleplayer RPG if you can't socialize well enough. Perhaps he doesnt have friends who play SWTOR. I certainly dont, the only time I ever pug is when my guildies are off work in the evening and we can do 1 or 2 before they have to go hang with the family... so most of the time im pugging, it is unfair to say that he has no friends, he might just be in a worse social situation than you. Long story short I agree with OP. Pugs need to face pugs, and premades face premades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonkiratainted Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Did you know that premade means a maximum of 4 people? What is holding you back to get your own friends playing with you pvp, wait you got none? Maybe roll a singleplayer RPG if you can't socialize well enough. I really fail to understand why people like you absolutely have to behave so childish... I say - stop pairing pugs vs premades. It shouldnt be that hard? I like to log on, pug a bit and log off again. And I know alot of others do that too. Why shouldnt we have a "bracked" for ourselves? Oh wait...its because people like YOU constantly whine about ppl who pugs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vant Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Nuff said! You should change this thread to read "Give me longer Queue times!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonkiratainted Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Perhaps he doesnt have friends who play SWTOR. I certainly dont, the only time I ever pug is when my guildies are off work in the evening and we can do 1 or 2 before they have to go hang with the family... so most of the time im pugging, it is unfair to say that he has no friends, he might just be in a worse social situation than you. Long story short I agree with OP. Pugs need to face pugs, and premades face premades QFT. FINALLY someone who understands. However, I do have tons of friends. They just dont play SWTOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRINnBARRETT Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Premade and pugs are simply two different styles of play. Instead of ragging on the style you don't play, simply support a separation of the two (as OP has stated). GW2 is getting it right. Pugs for 1 queue, premades for another. They're probably the only MMO I've heard of that may actually get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMSN Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Premades aren't the issue. It's the ability to use a voice server(vent,mumble) that a group of 4 can comunicate with each other that makes them work well. Pugs just don't really have this option as you don't want a bunch of strangers in your vent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardoni Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 GW2 is getting it right. Pugs for 1 queue, premades for another. They're probably the only MMO I've heard of that may actually get it right. Probably will end up playing that game for a long time if they do it right. I've long said the game that gives me PVP in the same way they expect me to PVE (i.e. I have a 8 man raid to PVE I should have a 8 man raid for PVP) I'll sub for a while... And what a plus... no subscription fee for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 If they can do it without effecting queue times, fine. But I'd rather have lots of matches and test my skill against all kinds of opponents then sit around and wait for the "perfect" set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drohak Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 if they dont separate its not going to be fun for anyone...premade is a total different game, everyone knows it. For the premade against a pug it wont be a challange what so ever. When the premades have their battlegear they prolly also going to cry for different brackets, but not before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lymain Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) If they made the pre-made queue cross-server, it might be pretty cool. But limited to just one server, the queue times would be prohibitive at least half the time. The easiest solution might be to actually fix the matchmaker so that it does pre-made vs. pre-made when you do have enough people queuing. It's frustrating to have a great pre-made game, know the other pre-made is still playing, but end up against some clueless PuG in the next game. Edited January 4, 2012 by Lymain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTwine Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yea anyone that doesn't feel that pugs vs pugs would be much for fair is simply someone who doesn't want to lose. I agree Premades should have their own wz. I for one like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreudHC Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Rift tried this. Know what happened? "K guys, 1... 2... 3... QUEUE!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scfs Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 50's bracket should make it better. Since its same server Pvp you'll be queueing up with the same 50's most the time anyways, ideally you should get accustomed to eachother and pretty much become a premade onto yourself. This 4 50's queueing up and stomping lowbies is dumb as hell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Shadowfist- Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 LOL @ all the premade baddies defending mixed queues. If you were worth a damn, you'd WANT to face other premades. Nubbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roocey Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) madlol This is the kind of attitude that made PvP in RIFT absolutely horrid for the first few months at max level. Please do not wait as long as TRION did, BioWare. The majority of full premade teams are simply looking to farm random groups. When BioWare solves this issue (hopefully), you will notice most of "Mitokondria" and his kin quickly returning to the standard PUG style of queuing, since his type don't actually enjoy competition. Good luck, anyways. Feel free to browse the back half or so of the RIFT PvP forums for some posts to copy & paste in defense of your absurd playstyle. Edited January 4, 2012 by roocey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeeeZ Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Agree with the OP. I signed up with a premade once, two DDs, one tank, one healer. We steamrolled everything. I ended up dancing on the base thing in Alderaan half the time because nobody even dared to attack myself and my healer friend anymore, after we won a 5v2. On a side note, I really think heals are overpowered in warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravtec Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I agree with OP letting premade farm pugs is a bad system. And thats all the pugs are, little farm sheeps. Added with the 10-50 bracket and it boils down to the worst pvp game i have playd yet, only beaten by lotro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khabarach Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Perhaps he doesnt have friends who play SWTOR. I certainly dont, the only time I ever pug is when my guildies are off work in the evening and we can do 1 or 2 before they have to go hang with the family... so most of the time im pugging, it is unfair to say that he has no friends, he might just be in a worse social situation than you.So make some new ones, it's not hard really. I run premades with people I've met solely through playing with/against them in WZ's. Find players that seem pretty good when in a WZ and ask them if they want to group. Most quite happily will as even a mediocre premade will be much better off than pugging solo the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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