[From a Hardcore Wow player 2 cents]

You have to wonder what kind of easymode somebody wants if they think this is a grind.

 

Ah, another person who doesn't understand the difference between tedium and difficulty.

[full server, yet feels empty]

Yeah because having to compete with people for quest objectives is the best thing ever right?

 

It wouldn't be an issue if they put reasonable spawn times on the mobs. 5 minutes is too long for a quest mob...1 minute would be more reasonable.

[Think you made enough East Coast Realms? What about us in the West???]

Servers feel empty as is and I'm on a high pop server. Please don't open more.

[Is Bioware really going to leave it like this?]

They're probably going to nerf the hell out of trooper/BH damage. They'll be good tanks and healers and wittle away at health bars.

[Fastest way to level up?]

I think you'll be disappointed with the game if you just grind your way to 50. There isn't any end game right now...

[Is Bioware really going to leave it like this?]

Yes there will be no changes to classes ever.

[Expansion]

WoW came out near the end of 2004, in Novemeber

 

BC came out 16 days into 2007

 

It was 2 years, and 2 months; not 3 years

 

Yep and I'm pretty sure they were already working on it when WoW was released. That's how these game development companies work. It will take them 2 years to make the expansion so they need to start working on it.

[Community managers/staff going a little OT?]

You act like they were trying to ban them from the game on purpose. Was it bad planning? yes. Was it a completely stupid mistake? yes. Was it malicious? no.

 

While i dont want Bioware to go to EJ's standards of moderation, i do think being tough and cracking down early is a good thing.

 

I consider it a bit malicious. They are very strict with their forums and ban/delete things they don't like even when the person is just voicing his opinion. I think their entire CS department has a bit of a chip on their shoulder/power trip. I think they'll find that MMO communities where people are paying a monthly fee expect a certain level of service beyond what single player game communities expect.

 

Of course I understand no one is paying a monthly fee, yet, but I'll be surprised if their policies change by next month since it has a long history of being this way.

[Mouse camera, control]

Movement he's referring to is going forward using the arrow key and controlling direction using mouse. It's a much more fluid way of controlling character imo. Sure, you can hold left/right mouse buttons and move that way. It's more aggravating than anything, but will work with what we got. Hopefully Devs can look into this...cause i'm sure this ipart of the game is aggravating the @#$% out of many subscribers.

 

That's how it works. I don't turn with wasd, I turn with the mouse. You just have to right click. You aren't saying you want the camera to always face the way your mouse is without right clicking do you?

[Mouse camera, control]

AFAIK, TOR's camera controls are exactly the same as WoW's.

 

The only difference is you can't turn your camera around and make it stay there while running. It will snap back behind you as soon as you release left click. WoW has an option to turn that off.

[Need vs. Greed]

I'm sure they'll eventually get around to restricting what you can need on. Each class has its own stat so it will be pretty easy for them to do so.

[Seriously, just leave then.]

Are you kidding? If the forums were all happiness and sunshine there would be no threads. They are entertaining because of people complaining.

[The only way to save this game is...]

More than 1 million so far.

 

You were saying?

 

There are zero people paying a subscription.

[Community managers/staff going a little OT?]

Not surprising. Reminds me of those people getting banned on dragon age forums and not being able to play the game they purchased. Bioware does not have a good customer service record.

[Need vs. Greed]

I really wish MMOs would stop doing this. Need/Greed is the WORST idea in an online game...ever.

 

Roll/Pass and all the complaining would stop.

 

You're kidding right? People would roll on everything. No one would get what they need. Need/greed is a far better system.

[Space combat...good or bad?]

Yeah some of the voice clips don't seem to be working right.

 

Like saying "Shields are down!" when I didn't have any to start with...

 

Yeah I like when they say incoming when you're 1 second away from jumping to lightspeed and there's no enemies in sight.

 

But that issues is prevalent in other areas of the game too. Like when companions com back from a mission and say they did an awesome job but they actually failed or say they let you down but succeeded.

[Space combat...good or bad?]

If you view it as being nothing more than a little minigame on the side, it's OK. The problem is, it shouldn't be a little minigame on the side. Some of the most epic parts of Star Wars canon are to do with space combat (Death Star attacks, for example), so to treat space combat as simply a minor minigame doesn't do it justice, at all.

 

Eh there are positives and negatives to allowing you to have complete control over the ship. This is more like an amusement park ride instead of a stroll through the park and I like it. I think a death star attack while on a rail is more thrilling than if you were just sitting out in space shooting down on it while dodging projectiles.

[Player Romance]

Please no. You'll end up with people marrying each other just to experience the game content and not because they actually like each other.

[Space combat...good or bad?]

Kudos to you for being able to stomach galaxies long enough for them to put space combat in.

 

I steered as far away from star trek as I possibly could.

 

So, unfortunately, I had no idea what to expect out of space combat.

 

I find I actually enjoy it. It certainly feels like it's a rough draft of the system they plan to have, but it's pretty fun for now. There are a ton of ways it can be improved and I'm sure they're going to improve it.

[Misconception about LFD and swtor]

i would agree that the posters on these forums are the minoirty of the players. I only come here while in que myself or just before I log in to check dev posts. I would also suggest though that just because you want something does not make you the majority. Nor the fact that people disagree with you makes them "hardcore." Infact most of the people from what i can tell from the threads on this subject who are against a change in the LFG or the addition of a LFD are not hardcore but more along the lines of people here for the fun of the game and are less worried about racing to 50

 

I disagree. The people against LFD are harking back onto their days in MMO's 10 years ago where people were nice to each other all the time. Back then it was only hardcores that played MMO's.

 

Sorry, it wasn't LFD that made current MMO communities garbage. It's society as a whole especially the internet society. You just have to deal with it. Most people are not going to be civil most of the time, especially on the internet.

[Where is the forum search bar?]

Search has been disabled since the 17th.

 

Why? To reduce server load or something? Cause it seems to me it would have the opposite effect as people will make new threads instead of finding a thread with the information they want. I know some people don't use the search feature but many of us do.

[Ability to compare companion items to inventory items]

Always boggles my mind why some options are turned off by default when I don't know anyone who wants them off. Like auto-loot and this one.

[Companion AI is garbage.]

Just a note on these fights. I use my pet as a tank, and did so in beta when it was a 4-man flashpoint. All you need do is press Ctrl 2, everytime you see the ground marker and back up. One of the things that works excellent is the passive mode. He'll walk towards you and then you press Ctrl 2 again when the AoE is gone. My pet tanked the entire dungeon without dying once I started doing this, correctly.

 

Did you read my post? This didn't work at all. My companion took 2 seconds to respond to my command and then walked instead of running towards me. I'm not a mmo noob. Maybe you had a different companion than me I was using the consular one. There was no way he was getting out of that ability no matter how soon I told him to move. We did end up beating the boss but it wasn't thanks to the companions.

[Misconception about LFD and swtor]

People posting on the forums during a game's beta are usually MMO hardcore.

 

After the launch of a game, the hardcore turn into a minority.

 

This. I got into the beta at least 6 months ago. I leveled 1 character to level 8 and one chasracter to level 6 and that's all I did during the beta. The only people who play betas are the ones who like treating the game as a job.

[A little less xp for space combat missions maybe?]

It needs to be raised if anything. The missions you do for a level 24 quest stop giving xp at level 22. Doesn't make sense to me.

 

Treat space combat like PvP. It's an optional way of advancing. You don't do both space combat and every quest in the game. Just like if you PvP you will outlevel the questing content. That's the choice you make.