Not if I'm passed that point in the story...I am not dealing with SIS at this point but with a cathar and a Darth. I can't even remember seeing the SIS. That bug fix is why I asked. This is something like the third time they messed up saboteur and its a BAD mess up each time because you can't go replay it. It's not enough to say oops better late than never. Or even that you won't get dinged really. I've missed part of the story I should've been playing.

My saboteur is at the end of the Kessan's Landing. He hasn't had the last convo with the cathar woman, nor the Darth. But he's most of the way through. There at the end I decided something was WRONG because the last convo showed no sign he was going to resist cooperating in overthrowing the Republic there. Is he going to lose his saboteur status? We really need the option to start these quests over or a guarantee we won't lose that if they are going to keep having these glitches.

By this I mean my agent tried it (first of mine to do so) and to my surprise it did indeed continue as far at least as Yavin 4. But I wondered if it got dropped in later or expansions? I know saboteur is available because I have a character that took that and they keep bugging it up. But what about that original arc if you choose to keep working with Arden Kohl?

Well I was afraid of this. Second time it's happened. The question to me is WHERE is this option supposed to be. If it's early on I will have missed it. If it's toward the end, I got suspicious at what I THINK might be the last convo. It felt wrong so I escaped out of it. If it's during that convo I'm ok. But I don't want my agent forced out of saboteur. And I'm frustrated they keep seeing this as an afterthought: they HAVE to know by the time people catch it, it's probably too late unless they are going to give us a 'redo' option.

I know some people are all in the new stuff but some prefer the old. And KOTOR was a big part of the background of swtor, and has many armors and stuff. But if I want to find THOSE (rather than the new tv stuff) I don't have a tab, I have to hunt. How about a tab for the KOTOR & KOTOR 2 stuff?

Ah that's better. Well finishing the story didn't do it. But fortunately I logged out overnight before giving up. I login the next day and the option is available! So either log out/login after the quest fixed it (in which case I think the holo pops up way too soon) or waiting overnight kicked something in. I honestly don't remember what I said to her when talking to Malgus on this character. Be interesting to see how it goes on the other 2 end game characters I have.

I'm getting a call from her in the new content but 1 of the 4 options is not selectable. It's the 'Shae' question. I had to leave the tunnels before completing the quest and log out. I logged in and had the holocall. I thought maybe there was something that needed to trigger in the tunnels, and once in there I did get a call from Rass about Shae. I thought that might be it, but the option is still faded out. I've run all through the mission there and the thing still isn't selectable. I really wanted to hit that option and get the idea I'm supposed to be able to. Does anyone else have this issue?

Thank you so much!

You summed it up perfectly. I don't want a single item they are pushing. The only items I'm interested in on that list I already own!

You just guaranteed I'd not buy anything. There is nothing I want or don't have on that list and I always look forward to and save up for the collection unlocks. I'm a longtime subscriber.

I didn't just get disconnected. Mine took 10 minutes to login. All I wanted was to set conquest goals! I tried 2 other characters and it was fine, but that one? Couldn't get in. Couldn't travel when he was in. And got kicked out!

agreed. I've waited forever for steeds like Ronto and Eopie. I've wanted outfits from the Expanded Universe (inspired by at least) or pets. I'm tired of seeing the interests of those of us who joined because it was part of the Expanded Universe getting thrown under the bus for Disney players. I've subbed for years. If they think everyone just is happy to accept new Disney stuff in place of the old lore of the Lucas movies and so on, they are very much mistaken. I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt but after all this time, this last year has me teetering on the edge of unsubscribing because I'm so disappointed. We are being pushed out just like we got on the books and comics - only this is worse. This was OUR game. Set IN that universe. Disney LFL flat admitted it wasn't Disney canon. It couldn't be as it was developed before they bought it. This game was founded on KOTOR and Tales of the Jedi. Future events in the EU had ties. Dawn of the Jedi ties to the Jedi Consular story and hints at the formation of the Jedi. Why are the roots of the game ignored for those who cast those stories aside in the first place?! and its not just me...I'm in a guild that was entirely made of expanded universe fans. It's seriously dwindled due to things like this. People have stopped subbing or even logging in. Bare minimum they could do both. But they aren't even doing that much.

Just saw this thread but haven't read all of it. But I thought I'd make an observation: I have no idea how it works but the whole 'let the player choose difficulty' thing has just been implemented in Lord of the Rings Online. Given that the game is older, you'd think SWTOR could do it too. It seems to me that game has in some ways been given a lot more dev love than SWTOR....or maybe, it's the company that refused to reinvest its earnings back into it that didn't give it the love. Says something that an older game has figured it out.

Nope. The voice acting and cut scenes made SWTOR stand out from other games that you had to read all the quests. I think they went a bit OVERBOARD with the cut scenes in KOTET and KOTFE (as in, sometimes it felt like more cut scene than actual playing) but if I wanted the black bar treatment I'd just play KOTOR or KOTOR 2.

It's the starter planets that are the real issue. I've got plenty of characters on 2 servers. It wasn't until I tried the Cloud test server that I squawked at the ABSURD price on the starter planet. It's ridiculous because you WANT new players. And new players don't have the money there. And of course, a long timer like me has an edge: on my regular servers I can shoot over to the stronghold and grab credits. New people can't. Otherwise, I don't really mind the tourist route (unless I have to fight through a bunch of enemies a second time I've no time for. But like I said, I've got the credits. New players don't)

I'll take an Eopie, and a Reek and a Ronto please (riding beasts would've been around from the start - why can't we get the ones that were already made and in the movies? ) And for their riders I shall take something inspired by something like Qui-Gon's poncho outfit, the 2003 clone wars microseries clone armor that poncho type thing over it. And those Jedi outfits that look like ordinary ones but have that...what do you call it? The armor piece over the shoulders. I could be wrong in thinking I've not seen those (maybe its discontinued) but I don't think so. Mostly I see sith stuff that is much pointier and flashier. And yes lets go back to the game's roots. I'm not thrilled they claim to do Disney stuff when that is taken from Expanded Universe either. It would be one thing if they really invented it but they certainly didn't invent that Bryar pistol. Kyle Katarn did and he is still a fan favorite. ( while we're at it, I would like HIS kind of outfit. I tried to make one but they dye wouldn't cooperate and the shirt/jacket was too complicated. I doubt a simple outfit like that took millennia later to develop.)

I'm quite certain it's MUCH worse now than before. I've played since 2015. It was slow but not like this. Not for me. I'd like to open another bay, but not the way it's lagging now. I actually wonder if the more you have unlocked the worse it gets.

Please give us an Eopie, a Reek and a Ronto. All 3 of these creatures were used as steeds in the movies. While I realize they've been creative with new steeds, I'm shocked and disappointed these movie mounts haven't received any love from the devs. The Ronto even appeared in KOTOR! *waves cartel coins* I'll PAY!

OK I get you need credit sinks and I'm not going to argue that in general. But on the starter planets? No new player has credits to SINK into anything. You will run them off with this. You want new players to play and sub. Running them off defeats the purpose. I've long had money I could raid in Legacy bank on the 2 servers I've played on, but I just tried recreating an old character on the cloud test server. And this experience tells me if you do the quick travel fee on starter planets, you'll run off new players. If you want to do it elsewhere, fine. Once you've hit other planets, you've had time to earn some. I don't even use quick travel much, but the one time I needed it, I couldn't use it at all. If anything, it would make more sense to have the starter planets free quick travel, but the expansion planets cost more instead.

So far my ping from East Coast US to the server is about 200. Similar to what I got to Malgus when I had DSL. I normally play Star Forge which is a bit better. I've recreated a character manually on the server so she could play Tython and that went fine. Mail worked. Collecting an outfit out of collections worked. Taxi worked. Quick travel I had no money to test (really guys? on the STARTER planets?) The only bug I found was an invisible flesh raider I couldn't target en route to Kaleth. It kept hitting me. Also I don't know if its MEANT to be missing but the 'Training in the Force' thing isn't showing. She's only got the one combat style.

My Akk Dog only has his trick on fleet, not the stronghold. My nexu doesn't have any at all. I'm disappointed I really wanted it back.

I know they have added new content dailies and events, but if they want credit sinks, how about CREDIT subscription for a monthly access to mini games, maybe contests. For instance sabaac/ pazaak tables (you have a non functional but clicky one on the Esseles flashpoint). Subscribe to mini events or contests that would not be rotated but anytime things, like say, Scavenger hunts, or even droid steering through an obstacle course. or 'explore this planet in this amount a time' or such. Things you could win prizes for (say a cartel certificate, or an occasional bit of cool armor Or a pet or title. I for one would like to play pazaak again. Not for credits or anything, just for fun.

That stronghold bit makes more sense. I do shortcut to exit area from stronghold but that is for convenience rather than escape from credits. Saves me going to map or the ship, & gives me a quick 'sell loot, check mail & hit cargo bay' all on the way. This would ensure we can use get our new toon all nicely outfitted for their starter adventure. Still: I do think we have a ridiculous number of currencies. I think it would be better to have mainly credits.

I bought expensive strongholds and go there on NEWE CHARACTERS with no credits to get credits from Legacy storage and buy things from GTN to wear. I paid a fortune in credits to unlock rooms. I pay a fortune in credits to unlock for decorations. I had expected to keep doing so and to make more characters. I have been more or less behind you and backing you for years. But I cannot and will not back you on PAYING TO GO TO MY OWN STRONGHOLD. oR PRIORITY transport that I had ALREADY PAID FOR. This is WRONG. You will LOSE players over this. And how will that save the game economy? This is not a good thing to do to subscriber who've hung in and it'll scare off new comers. My initial plan to make more characters is nearly blown away by this. There has GOT to be another way you can sink credits than making us pay for stuff I already paid for!

NO. Just NO. I can accept the other credit changes and I do understand the credit inflation issue, but NOT this one. It already costs an absolute fortune to buy it, open it up, and decorate it. We should NOT have to pay a fortune just to GO to our OWN stronghold! Please do NOT do this. Why should we keep buying strongholds if we can't go to our own HOME to decorate, retrieve items, visit the ATM or just relax or roleplay?