Mistell. Mods pls remove this post

This game flopped that's why, oh and the apologists report any posts that hit too close to home and get those with opposing views banned

The only reason pvp gear isn't BiS is BECAUSE OF BOLSTER, and that is EAware's fault for listening to pve'ers who most don't really even participate in pvp.

What did he say that was "factually inaccurate"? ...lol

How can ones critical analyses of a game be incorrect?

I should make a guild for the lulz and call it <Cilas' Voss WPvP Crashed PotF>. Or maybe just <Cilas WPvP Inc>.

Going to keep staying unsubbed until more attention is shifted to PvP. And by that I don't mean GSF:rolleyes:

Dude, you just made is sound a lot more complicated and that's what I'm trying to avoid. I'm also trying to avoid suggestions that completely remove the separation of PvP/E gear because that is something BW doesn't want at all – and even some players in the PvP community. I'm not trying to degrade you in any way, but I just don't think removing the separation of PvP/E and having their gear work together is the best solution. Also, BW wants progression to last as long as it can so that might be another reason for having this separation of PvP and PvE. In my opinion I'm actually for the Expertise system because it makes PvE'ers work for PvP gear if they want to be competitive in our scene, which is a lot more dynamics and has A LOT more factors involved than an Operation.

/Agree /QFT +1 /Perry'd

Well basically what you're suggesting is exactly what I'm trying to say, except you're labeling it as "Partisan" and not as "Recruit" gear, with very, very minor differences on how it's implemented and vendored.

It's DLC, just as RotHC was.

/Agree /QFT +1 Another thing that caused this game to suffer was it trying to act both like a single-player RPG and an MMO. Most of what was leveling was single-player, but once you it endgame it was like playing WoW – and as for the former, sure, you could still group up with players, but you'd really only have a maximum of 4 players in your group to run quests which an MMO does no make. Many players didn't like how this game wasn't fully an MMO, and/or that it felt like it played and was structured similarly to WoW when you hit endgame. This game also had way too many cutscenes. They put way too much resources in an area that just doesn't really cut it for content. I am one of the players that don't quest at all. Never have. Never will. If I did I'd just spacebar every single voice-acted thing, but even so I still wouldn't run thru lowbie PvE because of just how plain boring it is. It's just more of the same cookie-cutter fetch quests. Even with BW's "story" injected in it, in the end of it all it's just a fetch quest. The quests also feel much longer due to all the voice-acting, which really serve no relevance in what you do in the future as you progress through your story. They should have made this game more like an MMO like it was marketed under, and really only left the cutscenes to the main story and planet story quests. Trying to mix single-player and multiplayer like EAware did was just executed very poorly, and it turned off both single-player and multiplayer gamers in the end.

I'm just not a fan of Arenas at all and I hate Hypergate and Huttball. Hypergate and Huttball are tied for my least favorite WZ maps, and Arenas are just a broken meta because this game wasn't designed for 4v4s. I'd rather want more WZs like ACW and NC and WPvP, although we all know the latter won't ever happen.

LOL are you oblivious to the fact that that's the only piece of PvP content we'll actually be receiving? Not only that, Huttball isn't liked by everybody. It's one of those WZs you either like or dislike, and quite frankly they couldn't have chosen a more horrible style of WZ (except for Hyperbore).

Mercs I don't have a problem with. They're fine where they are. It's the PTs that I think need tweaking, and in the nerfing department IMO. ——— Also, I have documented this thread for calling me out on BS that never occurred. Thank you, and good night.

Firstly, to clear things up all I'm saying is that IMO I think PT DPS needs to be looked at with possible nerfs. I never said that Conceal/Scrapper needs a nerf, but they need changes that aren't nerfs. I know because I used to play one. Other classes are either fine or just need buffs. I know class balance will never be perfect, but it seems like this is such a sensitive topic because those who dare say anything about a certain class/spec that needs a nerf or at least needs to be looked at is called a "bad". No one should be afraid of bringing up classes they feel are a bit too weak or a bit too overpowered. This type of discussion is necessary for improved balance in PvP. You also said something about their HTL ability, but it's not like that's all they'll do. I just have a problem with them always seemingly being able to activate their utilities/defensive CDs frequently. I don't know if it's me, but that's the class I have the most trouble going up against. Other classes I really have no quarrels with in terms of OP-ness. I've also talked to other players about this in general and they seem to agree with me, for the most part. Are there any classes/specs you think need a nerf? If so why? You know, I see many players saying that this game's balance is better than any other MMO that's available yet there's still countless threads being made in periods of time about certain classes/specs. Things like Op healers are bit of a concern, but IMO I think this class/spec was made more of a concern in terms of its OP-ness because of how better it can perform in healing in 4v4s unlike a squishy Sage or a more of a single-target/support Mando healer. What I said about Op heals is just an example.

I hear the space missions (not GSF) give you lots of XP. I also recommend doing Flashpoints, but really the only one I would personally do over and over again if I PvE'd would be Kuat Drive Yards. Buy the FP legacy boosts, stack some MXP boosts and you'll level extremely quickly. Have fun getting to endgame.

Can you please be more specific? What is wrong with what I said? Clearly I cannot put in some of my concerns about PT DPS maturely, can I? I don't get it. The PvP community needs to stop making talking about class balance like it's taboo and calling other people bad for it. Haven't you maybe thought about that it isn't you (or the other player) "complaining" that is a bad, but maybe that the class/spec does need some nerf(s) in order for the other classes to be on par with it?

I don't care of what you think of my credentials. This is a mature discussion to exchange feedback on whether or not Bolster should be removed. You've been the only one at this point to say it's fine... and as Dany said before, this is coming from a guy who exploits the Bolster system. This game had so much potential on the PvP side of things, but I'm doing my best to get the devs to care. I love Star Wars and it's sad to see a Star Wars MMO basically turn to just nickel and diming the player-base just to make ends meet. And IMO if you or anyone else is really bothered by my name and/or the type of content I generally post, then you guys certainly have thin skins. This is the internet. Grow a pair. And if there are plenty of teams on Pot5, where are they? Where are these surge of PvP guilds? And no, I'm not talking about the ones like <Crimson Kingz> or <Storm> that recruit for both PvE and PvP but are ultimately extremely bad in PvP. I'm talking about PvP guilds. Just pure PvP guilds. Hoth Ski Patrol? Gone. Hostile Takeover? Gone. I AM LEGEND? Gone. Casual? Gone. Pkers? Gone. Rainbow Space Unicorns? Gone. S Key? Gone. Super Bads? Gone. Clutch? Gone. Infinite Darkness? Gone. Meow Mix? Gone. You see. Many true PvP guilds – those that either focused or were making their way up to Ranked 8v8 – are now gone. Many talented PvP'ers have been lost across the board due to the incompetence of a dev team who has no understanding of how PvP or its community works whatsoever. Furthermore, why would I want to be a part of the Ranked Arena scene anyways? Again, Arenas are a broken meta. Again, a complete joke with certain class/specs that will always be known for being inferior to others, thus around half of them being nonviable. Again, this game wasn't designed around the 4v4 meta and that's why it's as bad as it is. And no, the meta is not always changing. It was with 8's. Even though it did experience some "dead" periods, it surged in activity when BW opened up character transfers. Pot5 saw a surge in PvP guild activity and in PvP population overall due to those who wanted to participate in a form of competitive PvP that was NOT FUBAR'd. Lastly, I'd just like to say that your injections of those small ad hominem attacks in your reply are cute. I may not know Dany very well but from what I've seen in the Pot5 FB group, he knew his stuff and at least knows what's wrong with the PvP in this game and why part of its meta is completely borked. I can respect him because he cared about 8v8s and about the improvement of this game's PvP. Now I'm not saying you don't, but clearly you don't care about meaningful dialogue unless those you're conversing with have some lol Ranked Arena credentials. You may have fun with a borked meta, but again, you are a minority. Nothing more.

There is no "scene" to be relevant in PvP bc Ranked 8v8s were canned for YOLOqueue. And you saying Arenas aren't gimped also shows you are the minority. Only a very players will ever be content with Arenas. The majority of PvP'ers have unsubbed at the very least, while others have left for greener pastures. I fail to see how Arenas makes you a better player at the slightest. It's just a DPS-fest full of FOTM class and who can activate their abilities the fastest and apply pressure the hardest. It's flawed and always will be because as I've said before, this game was never designed to work under a 4v4 meta. L2MMO

I highly doubt that the problems with Bolster relate in any way to class balance. The only reason why class balance is horrid is due to 2 things: Piss poor PR. The devs can't play their own game. They're horrible at PvP.

BUT... BUT... I worked so hard on this anti-Arena response! How could you?!

Lol it's not PvP. Is it a part of a subforum in the PvP forums? Nope. Don't see it; therefore, your argument has been invalidated. And it actually does matter whether PvP'ers like Arenas or not. Look at all of the PvP guilds that went inactive or ended up throwing in the towel altogether due to the implementation of Ranked Arenas for Ranked WZs. That basically means that EAware will slowly phase out 8v8s in total just for Arenas. That's a VERY bad sign.

PT DPS definitley needs a nerf, especially the Assault spec.

LOL this. It's also funny BC he takes Arenas – a completely broken meta – so seriously. I would be under the assumption that a player like him wouldn't stoop to the level of exploiting the Bolster bug, but that's just expecting too much out of players from this community. And my OP basically is what it's doing in this case... negating the points you bring up and any other related ones...