Have to disagree with your statement.. Premades control the flow of things.. from elo - mats, they have the resources and personal to do so.. they're stack.. and if the rewards are based on wins then everyone else will get nothing..except over price stuff at the gtn.. group rank is fine..

Its easy to defeat a Merc.. specially with the tone down in dps.. any two players can easily defeat a merc, and in single combat, a Mara, jugg, Operative can defeat a merc.. Soonest Trauma Regulator pops just step back for a few seconds.. then Merc is all yours.. as a matter fact.. you don't see them often in Rank wz after the done down..

Its exactly what I keep saying, premades control the flow of things, they fix matches in order for their main toons to obtain the highest rewards.. And that's fine with me, but why ruin the game for everyone else, their main toons are already in a higher position, so why send throwers to control the flow of who's going to continue to ascent and who will not.. Average players are not a tread to premades. We're not gonna achieve the top 5 positions due the random queue, but don't spoil the fun for others, already got what they wanted then let others play.. Yesterday I did an experiment, transfer my main gear to a different alt. First 5 matches were straight win, follow by two competitive looses, could it had gone either way, and we all love the competitiveness among matches, then all the sudden.. Here comes the throwers by the masses. We had to call it a night.. and such behavior happends on a daily basis.. My attitude is as follows.. premades got what they wanted then let others play.. not right and not fun for those who participate and defend such behavior .. had your fun then let the rest scavenge what is left.

Yea, you the man.... They need to eliminated the leaderboard is what they need to do.. and reward player based on matches play.. your first paragraph sum it all... no need to write an entire novel..

Glad u brought that up.. this season on a typical day in solo rank for me.. I play about 10matches per day..out of those 4 are with throwers as everyone else who gets them on random queue.. player who as soonest the match starts go to a neutral corner.. sometimes we get them in pairs.. other matches, give or take are with totally ungeared player.. some do their best but is not enough.. as if my merc is supposed to be the Michael Jordan of the team... and my other matches..we win but really don't matter due to so many losses that bring my Elo to nowhere.. need to point that I did started the season late.. so pretty much everyone I know was already set....and that's a typical solo ranking day for most of us.. not saying I would had achieve top ten on the leaderboard but with the current trend any chances of achieving a decent rating are gone.

haahhaha hahahaha..oh my lord..

have u ever though about working for the NYTimes?.. they need reporters and good writers.. think about it man.. u got amazing grammar skills...don't waste your time on this forums man..

Wonder for how long this sort of behavior is gonna allow to continue... "the game is working as intended" is not a sufficient or acceptable response from representatives.. and It happens to everyone on queue, sometimes players get them in pairs of 2s in their groups.. Its poor state of affairs on the part of bioware.. regardless of the player skills, no one deserve to have throwers on their groups.. who intentionally queue to ruin the game.. #AnotherPostAboutThrowers

The math they used, algorithm , and logic is Horrible.. no consideration at all from the input players present.. total disregard.

So many threads about such particular issue.. Trade wins and Premades.. No one seen to acknowledge

I think what you referring to is call "trade win" were players group up in order to achieve high ratings, but in all fairness is the only way to achieve anything in pvp.. otherwise you'll be left out.. I know is frustrated because it takes away the competitiveness.. Try to transfer to another server, maybe it happens there too, maybe not.. there has been several post about Server Merge which will make it slicedly difficult for groups to constantly appear on the same match, but in the meantime do your dailies and gear up.. don't worried about rating for now.. its a loss cause

We need cross faction

Mercs we have/had been miss understood by the perception ppl have with us..we're not an Op class..we just an average class that can easily fall into the same category as PTs.. in total honesty, its everyone's perception that makes us Op..We have the same Combat Proficiencies as everyone else..no more no less.. So feel free to post your opinions in support of my thread.. share does wonderful experiences as a merc..and how u have overcome the stigma they have on us..

agree 100%.. my rating is the 1100s and find myself queue with 1700s and above.. sometimes good player with high rating get queue with average players or beginners, and that's not good for them.. their rating drops significantly.. my hat goes off to those who manage to get to the top.. they did what they gotta do.. but for the honest player..oh boy..we aint going nowhere

Being a hardcore star wars fan I play for the love of the game..no longer worried about rating or trying being the best..etc

Hi everyone. its been 3months since I haven't play.. how's everybody? I see some minor changes in the game.. anyways congratz to those who are on top of the leaderboard.. I know a few names..happy to see ppl I know on top of the charts.. anyways..see you folks

Been playing pvp since 2nd year, and started in Urwz, wasn't until 4th year that I started taking serious Rwz and haven't left since them. Reason why veteran player has flooded out of the game is because some individuals continue to launch these Nerfting campaigns without realizing or clueless of the aftermath effects. Who wants or like their favorite class to be nerf? haven't meet a single individual yet.. Right now developers are gearing to teach us a big lesson, which is.. don't campaign on things you know nothing about.. if Nerf things haven't teach us a big lesson in the past, then we're destine to fail in the present/future. I for once totally agree with the PvE community "why they should suffer for us" how they're gonna fill their rank without proper rdps? anyone that does Hm/Nim operations knows their squads must be fill with heavy rdps, exceptions are one good skillful melee(Maras). I am glad to achieve most of those Hm/Nim operations, including the Raven title before July13, because after that is gonna be a luxury to achieve even the most simple ones. Note: do not expect any significant buff on/for any class.

Totally agree! soon we won't be able to use the Class even in PvE. Ppl start nerfting campaigns without realizing the severe consequences. Now the class is getting ready not to be viable even in PvE. Oh Boy! Good thing I got my Raven title before July13, since those kinds of operations require Heavy Rdps. Like the old proverb says " forgive them, for they know not what they do" amen to that

I play Rwz almost everyday, and had see some deadly dps Sorc players. Its why I categorize it as "subject to player skills" And as Healers had also seen some players that have mastered their kiting skills, making it a loss cost trying to aggro them. I am only trying to be constructive, but anyone is welcome to follow their own personal agenda.

Would you ppl plz stop with the Nerf me this and Nerf me that, and instead we should all focus on class balance, and everything that is broken and needs to be fix. Look at the PT. Its at the lowest right now, juggernauts too.. this game as some mayor issues that need be address and corrected immediately. Nerf a class is the easies thing a developer can do to avoid true responsibility while everything else gets ignore. Right now they're getting ready to systematically Nerf Mercs to the ground. How many classes before the Merc we had see being nerf to the ground i.e Maras, Juggs, PT, and Sorcs, along with classes that are barely holding their own. Some classes can be categorize in either group. Depending on who's prospective. Classes Holding Their Own Assassins Maras Sorcs(subject to player skills) Obsolete Classes PowerTech Juggernauts Sorcs Assassins(subject to player skills) Classes that Aren't Broken Operatives Snipers Mercs Other mayor game issues that need to be address are bugs, hackers, premade, and the queue system for Rank and UnRank warzones. Lets all focus on getting developers attention so they can fix what needs to be fix , instead of focusing on things that aren't broken.

Tell that to Eric Musco. He and his Einstein deve's team are planning on rewarding that particular group. After all their efforts shouldn't go in vein. Like you previously state it; it takes a lot of hrs of planning(manipulation) to achieve those ratings. lololollollol

Will hate to see you go, and I too been contemplating leaving. I been contemplating going back to World of Warcraft. Their customer service is excellent. if an issue cannot be solve through in_game ticket, then they'll give you a call. Like the respect they have towards their subscribers, something I had not forgot even though no longer a subscriber. This game as been a dictatorship since day one. They tell you what class you gonna play, how you gonna play it, and with who you gonna play(no cross server)always fighting the same individuals. WoW is amazing. Lots of good story line, cross server pvp, and ways to obtain decent gear if you choose not join a raiding guild. Here is always the same childish story lines. Haven't see a good story line since the original chapters. Pvp is a disaster. They could careless about fixing it, and we as a subscribers are redundant to them. How bioware continue to obtain the finances for this game is beyond me. All my friends have left this game. Good ppl I used to raid have left too. I Gonna hold on until next upcoming patch. Hope dev's pull their heads together.. and start for once respecting their customer. Boluda

Dude, could careless if you part of Dark Rakai support group. U2 can go to the nearest pub, have a drink, and cry a river to each other. The so call desk job "Professional" forgot to revise his statements. He exposed all of you. Your group is/are a bunch cheater. Good players, the ones who truly have earn those ratings, have no problem in carrying "trolls" contrary to your group, that have high ratings at the leaderboard, but skills says otherwise. Cmon dude, your group cant win unless u ppl group up. Campaigning to deter "trolls" for queueing lol No dude, they're messing your little scam that's what got u bunch of funny over the edge. Tell you what, now Solo Rank is gonna be a whole lot fun, now that u bunch of buffoons have been expose...

Your advise is Frivolous. You should had never come to light and you know it. Good player carried trolls all the time. So why you keep loosing with trolls? specially with that 15second global touch you have lol. Enough talking, see you at the arenas.

Wouldn't worry much about him. He's a win trader, but to be a win trader, he's rating is very low. Those ratings are usually 2500+ and higher. Never gonna see him queueing without hes ppl. Its usually a group of five. Went you get hes ppl on your team, you gonna see them / stuck or throw the match. At one time I ask him to bring me on board.. He said "No" You barely gonna see him talking on the forums or bringing his toons into the arenas, now that he's been expose. But in a way had to admired the guy.. knows how to hack the arenas.. more power to him.