what even more of a let down is the wording this used to get people back to the game to try out the xpac, so after I spend the whole day downloading this at a snail pace, I can do what? nothing, and I don't mean nothing new, I mean nothing, didn't resub until Sept 20's, no early access for this moron and since all end-game content is lv65 now you cant do anything that matters unless you have early access, so nothing to do in-game for a week.

This is right from the community news copied and pasted...... 10.20.2015 Welcome to Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ - Knights of the Fallen Empire Early Access! Greetings! It is my pleasure to welcome you to Early Access for Knights of the Fallen Empire Digital Expansion. You are the first group to officially start this epic new adventure, enjoy, and may the Force be with you! Early Access is a special reward for those subscribers who were as excited as we are about this new expansion that signals a return to our BioWare story-telling roots. Entry to Early Access was announced when we announced the new Digital Expansion and was a reward for all Subscribers who were actively subscribed from July through early October. During each of those months, active Subscribers also earned several other unique rewards including the ability to have Nico Okarr as your Companion in-game! We appreciate your support and look forward to hearing your feedback on the epic new adventure introduced with Knights of the Fallen Empire. this says nothing about having to sub on specific dates, just by oct.....

ya I had taken a brake from the game, then I noticed this, come back and sub for early access, so like a moron I subbed at the end of Sept, bought the Reven xpac, lved my lv55 toons (max when I left) to 60 to prep for new xpac and bamm, Reven is free now and no early access. ya ya ya I know I should have read the fine print, but hell I didn't think I needed to use the same lv of suspicion as dealing with a used car salesmen.

so let me get this straight so im not confused about this, so to get early access I had to sub by aug 10 and keep sub up till oct 19th, so I get this NOW ( I don't care what you say, they could have worded this ALOT better and saved face but no, they wanted to trick a few people to come back and buy the reven xpac before it became free.../shrug) but here is the real no lube moment (if I have this right) they have moved all FP/OPS and end game stuff to lv65 before every sub has access to lv65? so for the rest of us moron subscribers we literally have nothing to do for a week?

I have great internet where im at, good modem and comp, never have any lag issues but im downloading between 12.5kb/s-45.5 kb/s, is there something I can do to speed this up or is this normal?

I guess im still confused since I took a 2year brake from the game, came back and subbed right away, end of Sept time frame and its says im getting early access, DLing it atm.

just way to many, stun locked and killed 4 times in a row in 1 match, just not fun and i dont see how it helps the game, why is there no imunity to a stun right after you are stunned (dosnt work 3/4 of the time)

i find it weird (and i really dont think im the only one) that people beleive someone should be "PUNISHED" for choosing to quit a match in a VIDEO GAME that they themselve pay for....dosnt anyone else feel this way? this isnt a "real life" learning experence...you dont learn life lessons about quitting something in a video game...sure its annoying but get over it, there are many reasons to leave a match, and a person should feel under NO obligation to explain or be punished for doing so.

so iv been messing around with my spec and decided to go with 2/32/7 build, just curious what others are running for pvp and how its works. My GM had wanted me to run a 6/31/4 spec but i tried ti and didnt like it.

thx for the replies, started the mix/max process yesterday (talked to a guy in game about it) was told that my exp was way too high (was at 1393), so i dumped some of that, not on game atm and havnt finished with it yet but if im remebering right atm im sitting at 31%crit (unbuffed).... 1780's str (unbuffed goes to 1887 with buff)... 100.90 acc (was told this is too high)... 76.7 surge and 1311 exp......19.8k hp..... ATM im running WH gear with EWH belt/bracer/sabre/relic (still have 4k Ranked comms so i can get 2 more pieces) all gear with STR augs Anymore advice is greatly appreciated. Be'Lahl

title says it all guys, looking to start min/maxing my vengence speced jugg, got full wh with EWH bracer/belt/sabre and 4500 ranked comms saved up, dont know what to buy next. ATM i got all my gear aug with str augs, but it seems that my crit is starting to get damm low and it looks like anything i will buy to up my crit dumps my power so im not sure what end crit% i should be going for. Was just saving up my comms for next patch but im maxed and need to spend some....Thx for any replies. And no i dont want to spec rage, played it, found it boring

left for a couple months to try out gw2, was too impressed...resubbed about a week ago, relving since i forgot how to play my jugg after 4+months and need to relearn game, having a blast lving a sniper

ok guys did pre50 pvp as rage spec, got to 50 and switched to veng, been veng from lv50 to valor 68 atm, got some good gear going mostly WH dps, rest BM dps...but i find myself guarding ALOT in wz's, more so then dpsing so i was wondering if it would be smart to switch to hybred, immortal/veng, iv heard they can do some pretty good dps in dps gear while maintaining some good survival tools, is this true and what spec to go with. Also asked this in general chat and was told to go veng spec with tank gear but as im pretty far along in my WH set so i think that out of the question unless i get told its absolutlu nessassary. thx for your time

1. Make all end game gear player crafted, and all stats done by crafters (with more options on stat combos) so your suit is customized to what you want to do (kinda like daoc). Would also spice up stuff for crafting a bit. 2. Make comms and pvp rank open up new skins for you gear and other fluff items, nothing to do with stats. 3. fixed

and noticed my jugg had a forced respec, did they change something drastic or is veng still the way to go for pvp dps?

it better be free for us on ghost town servers (1030pm pst on a Saturday and there was 12 people on imp fleet-Warriors of Shadow) after paying 65 bones for the game and 15 bucks a month to play what is pretty much a single player game atm they should be free xfers with EVERYTHING on your account included legacy lvs..alts ect, anything else would be very disappointing and i doubt id continue to give them my money. As it stands they need to quit worrying about anything else other then xfers for us on ghost town servers, cant even do the current content this game has do to a pop thats to low to field the plays, hell it took me 3 days to find a guild on my new toon, no one left....HELP

Marauder will deal more damage but imho a jugg is better for the team, the tools a jugg has> damage a marauder has imo.

i have noticed this also, hell iv had them drop, use a ablitiy then get picked back up and stunned again.../shrug

so i rolled a juggernaught and went synthweaving to craft armor for myself, took archaeology and underworld trade as my other 2 skills (what codex said) , now do i have this right, that i HAVE to have slicing to get augmentschematics ? if so *** is up with that, havnt seen any on the gtn for sale ( aug schematics) so do i have to take a skill that has no use to my trade other then getting the schims?

what race are you? i ask because i rolled a sith pure blood jugg and no breather type mask would show up, so i deleted at lv27 and made a human and they show up just fine.

Searched 6 pages back and couldnt find the answer i was looking for, topic says it all, what would be better in PRE-50 pvp vengeance or rage