Sidious and Plagueis actually identify this as Maul's primary character flaw. When he believed he had an enemy at his mercy, he would let down his guard to toy with them.

Personally, I didn't feel that his fall was all that abrupt. His logic for staying on the Dark Side is completely screwed up though. It doesn't help that nobody could ever speak the dialogue written by Lucas. Also, I really like how the EU expanded on his fall. scene from the Clone Wars might tell a better story of Anakin's fall then all the prequels, just because it feels more natural.

Man, these reviews are popular. Seriously Mordegrus, watch all three series of reviews. They're pretty entertaining, and they bring up every flaw with the prequels.

Also, address this:

1. They strongly encourage Force Sensitive children be given to the Order. 2. When you're "kicked out", you're sent to work on a farm planet for the rest of your life. 3. Death, a forever-farm... What is the difference really?

No. He's saying Lucas' approval of something is G-Canon, IE a stamp of approval and canonicity, but when the material is written by another author it becomes C-Canon. Edit: The only way Lucas can approve something and have it not be canon is if: A. It was never intended to be canon from the start. B. It was retconned. Neither have occured for Fett.

It's not just you. By a long shot.

The closest thing to what you're talking about is a retcon. Fett hasn't been retconned. Fett continues to appear in new books to this day. The vast, vast majority of those books, (IE, NJO, LOTF, FOTJ) are all classified as C-Canon. If Fett living wasn't at least C-Canon, they would've pulled every book he appeared in long ago, and refused to allow him to appear in any more. They haven't, and they don't. Why? Money and popularity, obviously. Doesn't change the fact that he is still there.

First off, the war would've never happened. Secondly, I believe the Republic would have won. It was nearly a Republic victory by the end anyway.

1. What? No. 2. That's simply not how it works. You can't just remove a part of the book that doesn't agree with what you think about something, it still happens. Well, you could remove it, but only for your personal headcanon.

We already backed up the argument, in a thousand different ways! Hell, Zone even used quotes from the site you recommended, telling you why you're incorrect!

How so? The only "story" in that game is the opening crawl, and nothing there contradicts anything else in the lore. That would make the "story" of the game S-Canon. A. Then they don't happen. You can't simply insert a non-existant character into the place of someone else. The books wouldn't really have a point then. B. Lucas' "official stance" is that the EU is an alternate universe. C. I did. It didn't impress me. D. Are... We talking about me? That doesn't sound much like me.

Okay... Let me try this again. Without Boba Fett, nothing in the post-ROTJ EU makes any sense. So either he lives, and everything is neatly in order, or he's dead, in which case any number of events cannot occur, and the continuity is just screwed up. Also, I thought you said you'd drop this if we explained Demolitions?

It was a pretty good arc, and you really get the feel for how broken Maul became after he was beaten by Obi-Wan. When he starts talking about revenge, you want him to get it.

"Sigh" I know i'm going to get flak for this. Galen Marek.

I... Already explained. The opening crawl amounts to this: Jabba is a crime lord. The Imperials have outlawed podracing. Jabba has made a death sport to replace podracing. None of that is outside the realm of reason, or conflicts with any other lore.

(Damn it, I really didn't want to bump this thread.) The individual aspects of that game are canon. IE, Boba Fett is a Bounty Hunter, Mos Eisley is a place, Naboo is a planet, and it's not unthinkable that Jabba the Hutt devised a sport to replace podracing. Game mechanics (as usual) aren't canon.

"The canonicity of the events depicted in Star Tours has been disputed for many reasons, the most obvious being the inclusion of the Death Star. Since R2-D2's presence onboard the Starspeeder precludes the events taking place during the Battle of Yavin or the Battle of Endor, the Death Star seen in the ride video has been considered by some to be the Death Star prototype, as seen in Jedi Search and Champions of the Force and its destruction to be a depiction of the prototype's destruction at The Maw in. However, it does not match that prototype's skeletal construction and R2-D2 is accounted for during that event. Also, the Star Tours Death Star is close to Endor, far from the Maw's location. This may indicate it is a so far unrevealed Death Star, or that the ride's events are simply not canonical. Others have suggested that the Death Star is a modification of one of the habitation spheres seen under construction over Coruscant. The events of Star Tours may take place after Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back since after the destination of Hoth is advertised on the large video screen in the queue area, C-3PO makes a mention of the events of the film. In 2005, Lucasfilm's Leland Chee tentatively dated the events of the ride at 4.3 ABY." Lucas approved the ride. Lucasarts approves nearly all of the EU. The ride is a ride, made for children, for fun. They attempt a story on the ride because a story makes everything better. They can't even place the "events" of the ride solidly in the story. The EU, (specificaly post ROTJ EU) is a multimedia project that involves hundreds of writers and fact-checkers constantly keeping things in-tune with canon and the continuity of Star Wars. You seeing a difference here? No. No it's not. Can you name a ride that is actually taken seriously as a part of a larger story? By someone other then you? Edit: Also, notice how you're the only one arguing your point? For almost a dozen pages, every poster has been against you, and you've yet to provide solid evidence for your standpoint that isn't a park ride or a sandbox game that doesn't have a story. When everyone is against you, that's normally a good indication you're wrong. Edit II: I'm done now. Better posters then me have made better arguments then mine that you're incorrect, yet you continue to try and shove your headcanon down everyone's throat. Just get the last word and let the thread die now. Edit III: I refuse to bump this thread anymore, so i'm just going to post a reply here. It is. You know what isn't for kids? The movies. In every movie, people die. Just look at the two most "kid friendly" movies. Everyone on the Death Sar dies in ANH, the Jawa are killed, and we see that Owen and Beru are burned to fleshy skeletons. And Alderaan. Don't forget Alderaan. In TPM, Darth Maul is visually bisected, with a mist of blood. We see him split in two as he falls in a chasm. Hundreds of Gungans are killed in the battle for Naboo. It only gets worse. The Force Unleashed. TCW, and Lucas has personally checked off on a number of EU decisions.

That link doesn't lead anywhere. The actual page doesn't really conclude anything. It's a park ride. For fun. Trying to say that any "story" it provides is just as important as half the EU, because it's been seen by more people, (which is very debatable) is just inane.

Ditto for LS Sith. (Though, really, a Light Side Sith is the only kind of Sith that's going to be genuinely loved and celebrated by the Imperial population.)

It's a park ride. Trying to say that an amusement park ride is on the same level of canon, and held in the same regard as, everything in the EU is just stupid.

And yet they didn't do that. They didn't just replace him when, by your own logic, fett's existance in the EU makes it all non-canon. (Though, really, it wouldn't be so easy, and any character to take Fett's place would need to be almost exactly like him in every respect for the continuity to make sense, including Fett's pre-ROTJ storyline) At this point, you're trying to headcanon a random non-existant character into Fett's place in an attempt to make everything in the post-ROTJ EU make sense, when it just doesn't without him.

It lessens my enjoyment. Greatly. Though by that point all canon effectively becomes meaningless. So Jaina Solo didn't train with Boba Fett? So she didn't develop the skills and mindset to be able to kill her brother, the Jedi-turned-Sith Lord Jacen Solo? So either Jacen won the war, or Luke's vision came to pass and he turned to the Dark Side? So the later Legacy Era didn't really come to pass, Cade Skywalker never existed, and the One Sith took over the galaxy? Any number of timeline breaking plotholes are brought into existance by Fett's death, but this is simply the most major. Edit: Oh, oh wait! According to Lucas, Luke never get's married anyway! So neither Cade, Ben, or anyone else of Skywalker progeny would exist! Man, the number of plotholes are compounding to infinity!

At that point, canon becomes an arbitrary term with no real meaning in the EU. Writers could write whatever they want, regardless of if it contradicts any previously established lore. Lucas would then allow anyone to do anything they want, (because, by your own logic, they would only be "what if" stories and nobody at Lucasarts should care) but he doesn't. By allowing the word "canon" to be metaphorically stamped on major post-ROTJ stories that contain Boba Fett, Lucas is allowing for Fett's life to be canon. Edit: I'm starting to wonder why you're even on this forum. In Lucas' personal version of pre-prequel Star Wars (which would be at the same "level" of G-Canon as Lucas' personal view of Fett's death) none of this is happening, and Darth Ruin was the first true Sith Lord.