The difference is that my screenshots hailed from two consecutive games, two fairly standard games for me. Your 800k screenshot of a PT is impressive but irrelevant, I'm current at valor rank84 and have played more WZ then I can count and I have _never_ participated in a WZ where someone produced so much damage. So what does that mean? It means I don't give a **** about that screenshot because the rarity of such a screenshot makes it irrelevant.

In PvP, endurance is king, power and cunning are also good stats. Crit and Surge are not bad but you hit the soft cap pretty easily so keep that in mind. I don't mention Expertise because it's so obvious

It's funny to see how defensive and insecure some ppl are. I'm not saying that everything is rosy and that our class is fine in all aspects, I'm just saying that if you know how to play you can still do very good (which any player should be able to do with any class). By posting stuff that points to the fact that our class is actually good and viable should make you happy, instead you seem to get mad which I find puzzling.

Your spec is solid, got nothing there. Most of the people who test dps rotations and such are "hardcore" raiders who are min/maxing their toons in order to cream out every last drop of efficency. Considering that you are wearing alot of Columni I don't think you need to worry that much about them pushing a few 100 more dps.

I can atleast produce some measure of "proof" to back my opinion up, 10 guys can say "it can't be done" but it only takes one guy actually doing it to make all the other opinions wrong. If you don't like the operative class and you feel that you already play it to the maximum of your ability then reroll/unsub instead. http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4826/leth2.jpg http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5948/leth1.jpg

Don't worry, I just respecced DPS. I'll show you.

I'm very sorry then if I hurt your e-feelings by showing you that I excel at and enjoy playing a class which you view as broken and not fun.

None of you have posted anything constructive at all except a random assortment of QQ so..

What a pathetic thread, it's just sad to see you guys sit and feel sorry for eachother. http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8382/op1a.jpg http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4193/op2s.jpg http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9952/op3v.jpg All three taken since 1.2, you can QQ as much as you want but if this is how you really feel it's not the class, it's the player.

' I'm gonna be REAL NICE TO YOU son. PREPATCH EXPERTISE STATS: 11% more dmg, 11% damage reduced 11% more healing POSTPATCH EXPERTISE STATS: 21% more dmg 17% damage reduced 11% more healing DO THE MATH KID!

Not true, lots of trash maras on my server (i know their names because its a small pop) who are absolutely horrible players magically started pushing massive dmg numbers after the 1.2. The maras that were actually good before are just retardedly strong now.

No man 300k? For sure? Thats such a massive amount :DD

I play on a very low pop server, it's really pathetic to see the same individuals playing their maras who were utter **** pre-1.2 now magically wrecking everything. If you think that maras are not overtuned you need to get a *********** grip, especially combined with the massive healing nerf.

We still got a sound, it now sounds like the old Tracer Missile...

Yeah well, if it was something useful I guess it would be a good deal. Now if some dude with a Malgus statue showed up on my doorstep claiming that this thing costed 6k dollars but I could get it for 300 I'd slam the door in his face.

For completing the daily you get 99 ranked comms and 99 normal cooms Dunno how much you get for weekly but probably atleast 3x as much.

Why would it ruin your fun? There will still be unranked WZ for ppl who don't want to put their balls to the wall.

I think people should be very careful about what they write when making such a generalized thing as a "PvP XXX-spec guide". Except for basic stuff such as opening rotations etc things like "This is how you do blablabla" does not sit well with me. The flow of PvP makes it impossible to make a generalized guide on how to "best" play a WZ, being smart and adapting to the situation in the blink of an eye is what makes a good PvP player, and you can't teach that through a guide. A good PvP guide explains the tools that the player has and what they can do, they never tell you what to do.

Your "stunlock opener" is flawed, there is enough time for one more GCD before using debilitate. Letting you land one more ability before using (in this case wasting) your debilitate makes a huge difference. Hidden strike->Backstab->Debilitate and not Hidden strike->Debilitate->Backstab. Also your "sustained dps opener" Opener > Shiv > Stim boost > Corrosive Dart > Damage is flawed, why should I wait with using Stim Boost until after Shiv? The correct useage would be to use it directly after Hidden Strike since it does not respect the global cooldown. Also I am very sceptical if that opener really yields the highest sustained dps but I'm in no mood to crunch numbers so I'll let that rest.

I watched a bit and I'm envious of your computer To be serious though, sometimes I was a bit confused when watching some of the fights, I was thinking "but nothing interesting happened?"

Thats weird, I don't have any problems using shift/alt binds while moving.

Sure, I'm not gonna argue more about it.

If you don't use overlapping stunlock vs Sorc/Merc/Sniper/Assa you _will_ eat a knockback. There is no point in saving your stun CD if you get knocked out of range, one knockback and you can give up. If you give your opponent even a 0.5 second window to make their move, chances are very high that you will get ****ed.

As I previously stated the 11/0/30 build was designed for me back when my gear was bad, back then I tried to hang back and lob grenades/corrosive darts as much as possible and just used Cull when cornered. When I play Lethality nowadays I go for a more conventional spec, I do not pick up Medical Engineering simply because I feel that the TA from Shiv/Hidden Strike is about as much I can handle with the current energy reg. I do however see the advantages of the hybrid build no doubt about that, it is probably a matter of taste and just getting used to it.

No it will not destroy Concealment, It will make our burst a bit lower though. If you know what you are doing and are commited to it you can make it work post 1.2 aswell.