I remember Dark Age of Camelot used to have polls on the launcher/log-in, and I have never understood why every MMORPG does not do this. I keep hearing all the time how forums are not representative of the entire player base, since many people who play the game do not frequent the forums. This is true. But every single player, without fail, sees the launcher when they log in. They can choose not to take the poll, of course, but they cannot avoid knowing about it. This would ensure that 100% of players have the opportunity to easily give feedback on a given issue. This would alleviate the need for people to argue on the forums about whether or not most players would or would not support something. If everyone votes (or at least has a chance to vote), then we'd know what people really want. End of story. Can we please do this, Bioware?

EDIT: what I originally wrote was a bit off topic. I'm going to move it to the Suggestions Forums. Sorry.

I also own a Razer Naga, and I love it so much I want to have its babies. The only downside I can really think of (well, other than price, of course) is that the buttons on the side of the mouse are pretty small. I have heard that some people with large hands have a hard time getting used to it. But since my hands are pretty small, I have no idea about that. I adjusted to using it almost immediately, and by the time you spend an hour or two with it you won't be able to imagine gaming without it.

LOL! Fair enough.

Oh, now don't you be jealous, my little love monkey; I'll save time for you later...

Ha. And here I was thinking pretty much the same thing about your last post! But I thank you!

I think most people are going to say that in that particular case, no, its not rude. You do have some good points, and its true that the blind invite is usually not intended to be rude. But the fact is that some people like to be treated as...well, people, and find that wordless invites in general are very impersonal and not very social. I think there is most definitely some middle ground area where a blind invite, under certain conditions, is helpful. But in most cases it is the least desirable way to be invited into a group if you are the kind of person who plays an MMO to socially interact with other people. If, however, you are the kind of player who likes to play "efficiently" and "quickly" and likes to plow through things and get stuff done, then the blind invite makes more sense. The problem is that these are very different playstyles and are really not very compatible with one another. So all in all, its probably for the best that the "social" people keep refusing the blind invites so that the "efficient" people can end up grouped with people who share similar goals.

Suit yourself. But you're the one who asked for the rules. I merely provided them for you. Besides, as I said, you're under no obligation to follow them. But getting mad at everyone else because you don't wanna isn't going to help you very much.

Sigh. I posted this in another thread, but here it is again. These are guides from several different sources. I encourage you to familiarize yourself with them. MMORPG Etiquette guide from Ten Ton Hammer: MMORPG Etiquette guide from Massively.com: MMORPG Etiquette guide from ChrisPirillo.com: MMORPG Etiquette guide from Ezinearticles.com: MMORPG Etiquette guide from Jedilama.com:

Um, why do people who don't want to TALK with others even play MMOs?

Again, its about established rules of etiquette. When you refuse to follow rules of etiquette in your interactions with another person, you are disrespecting them. At the same time, you are basically saying "Hey, I'm special. These rules don't apply to me, because I'm more important!" Yes, I am 100% aware than in many -- if not most -- cases, that is not the intent of the person doing the blind invite, but if they aren't willing to follow the rules they are leaving themselves open for misinterpretation, and blaming others for their own nonconformity seems a bit irresponsible.

Yep. A thousand times yep.

I think what many people are overlooking in this thread is that there is already an established rule of etiquette in regards to the expectation that a /whisper should be sent before sending an invite. MMORPGs have been around for many years, and during that time these social "rules" have been established by the gaming community. But don't take my word for it. Google "MMORPG etiquette guide" and look at the expectations for sending someone a group invite. In nearly all cases the etiquette guide will tell you that it is polite to send a /whisper BEFORE sending an group invite. Now, having said that, does that mean you HAVE to abide by established rules of etiquette? No, of course not. But if you decide that you don't need to conform to rules that have been in place for YEARS, you can hardly complain about people rejecting your invites.

I agree as well. It gets old having my companions fling themselves right in front of my cursor at he very last second as my finger is already moving to click the mouse. They act like they're trying to save me from clicking on a BOMB or something. "ZOMG!! NOOOOOO, Master, don't click that!!!!! I'll save youuuuuuuuuuu! <fling!> And what really annoys me is when they then say something snotty, like some kind of variation of "I don't have time to talk to you right now!". I'm like, well, if you'd stay out of my frakking WAY, you wouldn't HAVE to be talking to me right now! Jeez.

Ah, well, carry on then. I wish the OP luck in this endeavor to have the devs implement this feature that I personally will never use (and if someone were to use on me, my resulting response would automatically max out my dark side points meter in one fell swoop). But I like a world filled with options. The more the better. I support you, OP. Stay strong in your quest, my brother.

This feature sounds incredibly annoying to me. If I'm AFK its for a reason. I'll decide when I come back, thankyouverymuch. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to it as long as I could turn if off in the preferences menu. If people choose to make themselves available to receive these alert sounds, that's fine. I just don't want it forced on me.

Some players have expressed concern about the perceived lack of interaction with the CM team. What do you think your CM team could be doing differently to address this perception? (BTW, this thread--and more specifically the answer thread that will follow it -- is a good start!)

While I think that people who aren't paying for those player's subscriptions should mind their own business. We must learn to deal with the disappointments life deals us. Okay, yes, that was snarky of me. I suppose I should aplogize right here and now. I'm sorry for my tone. I do try to avoid that sort of thing. But really, page after page of you expressing your opinions on what YOU think other people should be doing when it has NO IMPACT on your game experience is beyond my understanding. Why is it so important for you to make sure that these people know that you think they should be playing a different game? And why should they care?

I've been playing since a couple of days after the game went live, and the highest level character I have is at level 25. I have also solo'd all the way. I haven't found leveling at this slow pace difficult at all. Bolded and underlined the part I am responding to. How can you possibly know that most soloers are "powerlevelers" only interested in endgame content??? I think you are merely taking your assumptions about people whose playstyle differs from your own and applying it in a negative manner to justify criticizing them. Further, you have no actual facts to back up these claims. Please know that none of this is a personal attack. I get that you are of the opinion that content that is solo friendly is not what you want out of an mmo. That's a completely valid opinion, and I don't fault you for it. But taking the next step and implying that there is something wrong with people who desire such content is just plain wrong.

You can't possibly be objecting to what you think another player's state of mind is and claiming that it has a negative affect on your gaming experience. What do these players actually DO that is bothersome to you? What actions do they take that interfere with your enjoyment of the game?

Okay, so setting aside the somewhat questionable assertion that you are somehow able to know what these solo players are feeling even though they haven't grouped or spoken to you, can you please tell me how you experience this alleged feeling of superiority on your end? Like, what EXACTLY do these players do to you in order to have this "superiority" negatively affect your game experience?

Surely you must realize that the determination of what constitutes a game's "best feature" is a matter of opinion? I'm still not sure how I understand how someone who doesn't group with you, interact with you, or even speak to you or anyone else (not even in general chat) can "show off". Do they follow you around and mime their awesomeness using emotes? People who solo play exclusively are most often introverts. Showing off and making themselves the center of attention is the last thing an introvert would do. For this reason, I find your theory lacking. As to why people solo play, I would surmise that dealing with the potential rudeness of other players would rank high on their list of reasons. I'll come right out and say it: I'm not very good. My DPS won't be the highest, my heals won't be the bestest, and though I just play this game for funsies, some people take everything so seriously and think nothing of insulting a player who is not meeting their standards. The first MMO I ever played was Dark Age of Camelot, and though I'd been playing the game for less than 4 hours, the first person I grouped with sent me a message in party chat telling me "You need to learn 2 heal, noob". I had been grouped with this person for all of five minutes. Not everyone in a MMORPG is rude, true, but when they are it is not a pleasant experience, especially for an introvert. This potential to be rudely insulted and embarrassed in front of the rest of your group is not, in the introvert's opinion, a game's "best feature". However, MMOs offer many other features that do appeal to them, many of which have already been mentioned in this thread. I do agree with you, though, that anyone who wants to solo an MMO and be able to solo content that is specifically meant for groups is being unreasonable. However, I think the number of players who not only solo exclusively but demand that ALL content be tailored for solo play is so small as to be inconsequential.

See, this is what I keep coming back to as well. And although there have already been a couple of official responses, it seems as though they are specifically avoiding trying to address this issue. I just can't understand how flinging lots of dollar bills around to fly people out to a summit only to have them tell you the same things that everyone has already been telling you right here in your own forums makes any sense. It implies that you refuse to acknowledge it here on the forums, but if you're told about it in the summit, then it will suddenly be worth listening to. I, too, hope something good will come of this summit. But it just seems as though if you were listening to us on the forums, this entire thing would not be necessary.

TL;DR summary at the end... I'm in support of anything that will further open the lines of communication, so I can't bring myself to be hostile to the idea of this summit. If it does some good, then I'll be happy. That said, however... I'm not sure what information you will get from this summit that is not already available here on the forums. That, more than anything else, is what I would like to understand. Also, it seems to me that a great deal of energy is going to be spent interacting with a very small percentage of the playerbase, when opportunities for interaction are being missed right here on the forums every day. Yes, I know, the forums are also home to a lot of garbage posts and hostile people. I don't deny that, nor do I suggest that those kinds of posts should receive any level of official attention. But I feel that there is still not enough of the "personal touch" happening here on the forums, which makes people feel as though their communication is never heard. And though I know not everyone will agree with me (nor should they) I also know I'm not the only one who feels this way. Good luck with the summit, though. I truly do hope that something positive comes from it. ------------------------------------------------------ TL;DR: 1. Can you please explain what kind of information you will get from a summit that is not already available here on the forums? 2. Consider stepping up the level of CM interaction here on the forums; Make the forums your own 24-hour E-summit.

Okay, Deyjarl, I give up. The OP is a vile, evil, nefarious person, deceitful and wretched in every way. Is that what you want to hear? I'm asking you to try to put things in a reasonable perspective. You seem to be approaching this from an extremely emotional point of view and are determined to remain offended no matter what the OP (or anyone else, for that matter) says or does. I agree that there is someone here making a mountain out of a mole hill. We simply disagree on who that person is. EDIT: And yes, that was my final word to you, as I don't think this discussion is going anywhere. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but I don't know what you want anyone to do about it.