I gave up on concealment. Lethality involves a lot more running and kiting but they did manage to improve it to the point where a medical/lethality hybrid is worth looking at for pvp. Because concealment is pretty much just setting up targets for someone else to finish off after you are dead. Might as well freakin spec for it then.

I miss the evil chuckle also. Not sure why they wanted to take it out, but it's dissapointing.

Almost all agent gear is fugly. If you hunt around you can find some oranges that will build an imperial dress uniform that looks kinda spiffy though. The hooligan's hat is the only hat that matches it however, except some low level greens.

If he's "dismantling" people it's because he's waiting for the opportune moment to strike. I.e. They just used cooldowns, someone else is just starting to dps on them, or they are already damaged. Either that or he has so much gear advantage that he can backstab jesus. save your escape move for debilitate and stop wasting it for the hidden strike knock flat.

Final cut: Story great! Class sucks! Just do it for the story and move on to another.

It's true. I like a challenge. I find the class very challenging because it's frankly lacking in any kind of coherent design and has one entirely useless skill tree. Medical is about all you want to try hard mode with, so you can off heal, but then you're denying the group someone that can actually dps. The lack of a knockback hampers the class in pvp. That, along with the lack of sustained damage means that you are basically a vulture. You lurk on the edge and try to get off a backstqb on an already damaged target. The idea that they would nerf hidden strike is ludicrous. It's about the only chance we have to actually land a killing blow, and that's because the target is already heavily damaged.

So does that mean when someone kills you geared with orange gear and you're tricked out in an ugly suit (all pvp gear is fugly) they should get more valor? They should but they don't. I've not seen such whining in a long time. Welfare gear my ***. If you're going to do pvp progression correctly and you're geared up you should count as a gold plated target. 70 level valor and someone level 10 valor gets the drop on you you should count 600x normal. And killing someone at valor rank 10 at valor rank 70 should net you 0.6 So far no one has done real PvP right except DAOC, they had this kind of system set up.

Hey lets all reroll on the fatman. That will obviously fix the problem.

There is an issue with melee in general, and perhaps with Juggernaut in particular, I don't know. Facing and targeting seem very slow versus ranged classes, and I'm calling anything over 4m ranged. Maybe it's just my system (or your friends) but half the time you think you are hitting a target they aren't where the client says they are and you aren't doing any damage. The other half of the time you get a "you are not facing the target message" when you are looking at right where the client says the target is. They are supposedly working on fixes for this problem, which affects different people to varying degrees. Until then I shelved my juggernaut and rolled an operative. That way the up close lag won't affect me as badly. Maybe your friend has the same problem, maybe he doesn't.

I have the same issue. For example Alt targeting is implemented but really, by the time you select two targets and swap back to the original one it's usually either dead or you are. Out of combat it's not a problem, but that's not really when you need the hotkeys. In all honesty I finally just opened my camera zoom all the way back and I look straight down so I can mouse click on the screen for anything other than nearest target. If there's a low ceiling then I can't even do that though.

A couple. Just because a thread is a few pages back doesn't mean it's dead. Or is it now the fashion to just make a new thread on a subject every time someone comes looking for info instead of looking through the forum?

It's not like melee don't have channeled melee strikes also. And the same trick of running through a Melee works even better since they can't autoface.

No idea. It seems to be the only thread about autofacing I could find. Has it actually been disabled?

Wait, Autoface works in PvP? How the fsk can you tell with everyone porting all over the place? To clarify, it doesn't seem to work for melee. Maybe lag is the problem because I was under the impression that autoface didn't' work in PvP.

I think they are for dark side only..... so you might want to take your jedi on a killing spree....

It does seem to leave a blank spot in the skill though...