wow love how this is being glanced over shame on u forum mods

lol u mad bro?

Bump this ****

In terms of world PvP and players actually engaging in it more than not... and if this doesnt exist where can i get the most challenge form other players in WZ's planning on rerolling an emp if that helps

Ahh crisis averted, A well communicated stance in a discussion if i do say so myself and i do. now perhaps this topic can move forward or atleast come to a draw...

What happened to gaining skills/spells/moves as progression in pvp, man nothing has topped gw1 pvp system. And bringing only 8 skills into a fight meant that you weren't gonna be able to control dps tank and heal all at once (I think trooper can do this but i might just be QQing) (completely aware of the FotM builds and cheese builds, at least individual skills could be nerfed into the ground without breaking the game.)

Once again you are failing to comprehend. The when the Op spoke of valor levels they were suggesting that it isnt fair for someone valor 1 to have to fight a valor level 50. You supported this suggestion with your post but, your initial statement would promote a disagreeable view on your part. So which is it, do you agree or disagree that people of equal valor level (experience) should be facing only each other ? and/or Do you agree or disagree that players of equal gear level should be facing only each other? and/or something i missed?

someone better take second to look at the way i ******* on agoldcrayons post... i would like some attention ppl

Clearly you do not understand what the OP is saying. Furthermore, the logic you used later did not back your initial argument "Gear progression is what keeps people hooked" You presented with this logic patern: a valor rank 50 player has put in the time to know how to fight and so he will beat all of those valor ranked 1's who haven't. Yes we all understand skill beats lack there of. But skill cannot overcome gear in most MMOs. What you should adjust your previous statement to is "why should a player in greens be able to smash a player in purples? The player in purples obviously has better numbers that determine how hard who can hit who, so he would have the advantage of having better gear." The OP suggests that these players be matched up against equally geared players. Not that gear progression should be removed from the game. L2Comprehend

Stop trying to take away one of my assassin/shadow tools.

Thats because your doing it wrong, now take off all that armor and dual wield some lightsabers so I can maul you harder.

Isnt it obvious, u need friends,,, friends who can stealth, friends like me

Okay if not a sand box game how about just one sandbox planet, the "gloves off" planet where the first battle of the soon to come war is taking place. and get this players could get pvp loot from killing other players destroying supply caravans and stuff.

The issue here is not operative being op its that the buffs that these people are stacking are too potent... perhaps this should be looked into.

What is it you don't like about huttball? Or better yet, whats better about the other two warzones? IMO the other warzones are far worse. However, I have never been a big fan any point control based pvp that is not in a FPS.