Excellent point. But the above is absolutely correct, even if handed a set of BM gear the second they hit 50, these people will still be whining about losing...

I agree without cross-server the rated WZ doesn't stand much of a chance of being viable. But i'd just tough it out once it's implemented because it won't be more than 3 or 4 days before we hear a patch is coming to implement cross server...

Good thread. Just started an IA a couple days ago.. Anybody have a link to a good DPS assassin build? My first lvl 50 was a Vangaurd, but was always impressed/frustrated at how fast an assassin can take you down in PVP. So thought i'd go for a different play style this time.

I second this notion. This is a great guide..

That was pretty bad a**... But ya, a female Satele would have been outstanding.

The Vangaurd armor looks pretty cool, very alien like. Nice that they toned down the shoulder "thing" so it doesn't look like i'm carrying around my own set of lawn darts...

So basically if i don't have a full set of centurion gear yet I should just stick with what I have until 1.2 goes through.

I agree with the same maps getting boring. They're adding a new one in 1.2 but i'd prefer a whole new set of maps for 50+ I don't mind teh maps so much themselves, but a little variety would be cool. And I still get stuck in huttball 75% of the time. That gets reeeaaaalllllyy boring fast. Played 6 WZ's a night for 4 nights straight this week. 18 Huttball, 5 Alderaan, and 1 Voidstar. I know it's random, but maybe they can even that out somehow....

Revise the nerf that only counts 3 kills towards your total. Or raise the level needed to attain a medal. 75k in damage for a medal and only needing 1 killing blow for a medal, low level needed for the protection medals are pretty much a joke and gauranteed every WZ... I have noticed more and more toons who got their daily 3 wins already getting three kills and then taking the rest of the WZ off because 1) they don't need the comms that bad, 2) they don't need the win, or 3) teh WZ doesn't start off great and they got the 3 kills and capped # of medals so they just wait until the next WZ for an easier win. Cross server PVP would be nice as well.

Good question, i've been wondering about that too..

In response to #3 - I had some trepidation about hitting 50 cause of all the "oh it's not fair I dont have the same gear so I get owned, or Oh it's so hard to be a fresh 50 blah blah blah" but when I hit 50 and started the Lvl 50 WZ's and such? I did not experience that much of a drop off in performance even when I was still in the Lvl 40 PVP set. IN fact some of my Lvl40 pieces with updated purples are better than the lvl 50 Centurion pieces I see. It all comes down to skill either way. Know your class, know it's role, know it's strengths and weaknesses. Know the best way to battle each class, and yes it is different depending on which class you are fighting against.

Go to the Vangaurd forum and read the sticky from Taugrim.. Being a Tank means little in PVP, especially 50 PVP. The sticky I mentioned goes through the mechanics of Shield/Defense/Absorb and does a nice job explaining why in the PVP world you should be focusing more on DPS and not worrying about jacking up your Shield/Defense/Absorb beyond a certain point. Basically those stats for a trooper only defend agains 2 of the 4 types of damage you take. And in PVP you see alot more of those 2 types that armor doesn't mitigate very well. A change in playstyle will help.. Post 50 you really need to focus on rotation and how you fit into the overall arena. You won't be able to go mano a mano very easily. I love being a 50 and the 50 PVP... I haven't experienced that dramatic a decrease in my playing or deaths, and I only have half the Centurion set.

Must be different for different classes... My Vangaurd just hit 50, and besides being more competitive (i.e. more peopel actually care) I haven't noticed a huge drop in performance or experienced high frustration. Ya sure, if I go 1v3 I get owned, but overall I do pretty well.

I agree.... They weren't complaining as much as trying to figure out what everyone elses experience was...

If you have multiple characters that get to legacy level, are you stuck with the Legacy of the first Toon on that server to get to Legacy level? So are all my toons on that one server required to be a part of the original, or can they start their own legacy?

The legacy system looks fantastic. So PLEASE don't nerf it when people start whining that it's unfair that those who have put in the time to raise our legacy levels get skills and abilities that they don't... I also think it'd be cool if we could arm the "pets" that I hear will be available... I'd love a mini tauntaun with a frickin laser beam on its head

I agree... I missed something along the way and actually ended up doing Nar Shadda before Taris. Made Taris a breeze though Alderaan takes a significant jump in difficulty in my experience. So take the opportunity to hone your skills. Jump on your class forum and ask for help with rotations and which armor is best. Update your mods and weapons. Make sure you do the same for your companion.

OK gonna put this in general Trooper forum since Commandos probably run into this too. As I hit 50 and started working towards a full set of Centurion gear I noticed that several pieces are actually a significant downgrade in several key areas for me. I noticed that equipping the Centurion Combat Tech Helmet I take a decent hit to Aim, Crit, and Surge.... And if I equip the boots it's a hit to all of those plus Power. Do you find mods later on that will improve this? My current Lvl 40 gear is almost all purple mods, so I've really stakced those attributes. Or maybe I should just roll with my mixed Lvl40/Centurion set till I get to Champion or Battlemaster gear? Thanks!

You can buy better blasters for her anyway. I don't think i've equiped her with a blaster specific to her since I got her as a companion.

If you pair with Elara (Trooper healer companion) you are viable as either tank or DPS..

This. All of the decnt builds i have tried use both.

This.. Just grind through the next 10 levels or so, then it really becomes fun...

Hey all. First off Vangaurd board is by far the most intelligent board on SW. Great discussions. Glad ot be a Vangaurd! Hit 50 a couple days ago and have almost the full Centurion Combat Tech armor set. I ask the below questions under the premise, as people have stated on other threads, that there really is no survivability difference between tank and DPS post 50.. Considering the great work done by people figuring (taugrim has an awesome section about this on his blog) out the best way to balance DPS and shield/absorb was CT the best way to go? Did people switch out mods in that basic level set or just save the creds until you got the higher level sets to mod those? And as I bank comms for higher gear levels what set did people go after? And is there a specific blaster rifle people went after once they hit 50? Thanks, you all rock!

Just hit Lvl 50 last night (well actually early this morning And have your IF spec right now. In reading through your guide on Vangaurd you mention getting the 4pc Combat Tech set if running IF. In some of the other gear descriptions you mention swapping out Tank mods for DPS ones. Do you still do that with IF + Combat Tech as well? I hit 50 faster than I realized so I was only able to get 4 bags once I hit 50 (1 stashed +3 after 50). Looks like I may have to buy piece by piece. But I want to know whether to plan on swapping out the mods in IF as well.... Thanks!

What style do you like to play? Read Taugrims sticky or Yojacks sticky. Both will give you builds that will be more than sufficient.