Updated. And GF does have a fairly tight enrage timer, the problem is that it doesn't really do anything. Even while its enraged its still easy to tank through.

Also, fun fact for everyone. The barrels in the GF fight don't have CC immunity. You can push/pull the back ones into a better position before the fight starts. One of our healers pointed this out to me when we were killing it again last night.

Please take screenshots while you are still in the instance with your group in the future. I have no way of knowing whether or not this was a Haterade guild run. Giving you credit for now since its not really counting towards progression order, and, as you said, is a really easy fight.

Grats on the 16-man clear . Updated.

TRN Golden Fury HM 8:08pm http://i.imgur.com/ugQRftV.jpg That fight was much easier than Styrak, imo. The enrage doesn't do anything.

Tatooine Royal Navy 8-man TFB TFB 4/21/13 8:50pm PDT http://i.imgur.com/jgFFUO7.jpg Also, updated.

Updated, congrats on the clear .

Does alacrity lower the rate limit on proc skills? A lot of proc effects have rate limits that are clearly tied to the GCD, such as all three of Jedi Shadow stances, Sentinel's Ataru form, Assault Specialist's Vanguard's chance to proc free High Impact Bolts, etc. If alacrity is lowering the GCD, but not lowering the rate limit of these various proc effects, then alacrity is breaking the game. For example, Sentinel's ataru form can proc to deal bonus damage on your attacks, once every 1.5 seconds. Lets say you lower the GCD to 1.4 seconds with alacrity: 0 secs: attack 1, Ataru form can proc 1.4 secs: attack 2, cant proc 2.8 secs: can proc again 4.2 secs: cant proc whereas before it was 0 secs: first attack, can proc 1.5 secs: attacks 2, can proc 3.0 secs: can proc 4.5 secs: can proc Lets look at another example with Assault specialist VG. They have a talent that gives Ion Pulse and Stockstrike a chance to reset the CD of HIB and make the next HIB free. This is on a 6 second rate limit. 0 Secs: You use stockstrike, get the proc. 1.4 seconds: GCD from stockstrike ends, use HIB 2.8 seconds: use a filler skill 4.2 seconds: filler 5.6 seconds: use Ion pulse, but it has no chance to proc whereas before it was: 0: get the proc from SS 1.5: use HIB 3.0: filler 4.5: filler 6.0: use Ion pulse, has chance to proc. Has anyone tested this, or could a dev clarify how this works? I main a Shadow tank, so I wouldn't touch alacrity with a 10-foot pole and thus can't test it myself. Another thing. There are similar issues with classes that are restrained by CDs that end up with alacrity being worthless. Both DPS scoundrels, for example, are going to want to use Blaster Whip every 6 seconds on CD in order to get upper hand stacks for their finishing moves. 0 secs: Blaster Whip 1.4 secs: Wounding shots 2.8 secs: filler 4.2 secs: filler 5.6 secs: wait around for .4 seconds, or use a filler and delay their Blaster Whip (and thus Wounding Shots) by 1.0 seconds

Updated, and also changed the formatting for how I am handling GF. It is not affecting the progression order. Ranks will all still be the same. For a quick note on my reasoning, see the OP.

I had to change the formatting to get MLP Friendship is Magic to fit (Dash'roode is now DR). Updated.

Updated. Quick question. Is anyone else getting almost exclusively Consular/Inquisitor gear for their random drops from HMS&V? We are probably getting 90% Consular stuff.

Everything should be updated again.

You beat us by two minutes! *shakes fist* Updated.

Tatooine Royal Navy Republic 8-man HMSV Styrak 4/18 9:50pm PDT http://i.imgur.com/3HyLuXR.jpg Finally got it, Comcast routing issues and all.

Should all be updated again. Just a heads up; USCG_Davis's Thrasher screenshot didn't have any proof of HM, but WillLongstick's did.

Updated.

Changed.

That's Olok the Shadow. I need the time for your most recent kill, The Cartel Warlords.

Updated, grats.

I just used your time posted. Please use another image hosting site; photobucket resizes the images so small that I can't see the clock. If you want you can post the achievement for the kill, which shows the timestamp, and I'd be happy to change the kill time in the OP.

Thanks for the fast response. Updated. Grats on the kills .

Was this a guild run or a pug? How many people from Decimation were there? I also need proof of HM. Just post a pic of the lockout.

Updated. When you link a long twitch video like that, please also link the time the boss dies in the video.

I've decided I'm gonna put a marker next to any guilds that have killed GF rather than have it as a separate progression. The goal of this thread is to have everyone have only one goal to go for at a time. I thought of just lumping it in with HMSV (so 8 bosses instead of 7), but BW has been so inconsistent with world bosses that I didn't want to make some potentially really easy crappy boss part of the main progression. So, any guild that kills it gets an * next to their name. I tried using one of the cooler symbols, but they create spacing issues .

Updated. Also, the Ops Chief can apparently be killed with 7 people.