TRN definitely no longer exists. Some people are still playing and made a new guild, and they should hopefully have progress for this thread soon.

The reason you are being made fun of is that an entire thread for bragging about your raiding accomplishments already exists. Which your guild also posted in before you made this thread. If you are going to make a thread just for one raiding accomplishment, it better be a pretty big deal. Killing one boss with the "unusable Shadow tank" is not such an accomplishment. Especially when Shadow tank has the absurdly overpowered ability to prevent adds from spawning during that fight.

Just bored of the game, I've been playing it since launch, have all the class stories done, and I think I've gotten everything I'm going to get out of this game. I might come back occasionally just for SM raids and FPs. I don't see any problem with Shadow tank currently (in 8-man anyway), and actually like seeing harder content such as the DGC. I'm actually moving on to another MMO, but out of respect for Bioware I won't advertise it here.

Important notice: I've decided to quit playing SWTOR, which means I won't be able to maintain the progression thread anymore. If you aren't subbed you can't use the forums. Its been fun everyone, and I wish you all the best of luck on your future raiding. I hope someone takes over where I left off, and I've tried to make that as easy as possible. Here is a google doc which has all the formatting I used for the first three posts of this thread: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16X9PQypXam2yUFjbJK4aZVwE7r75sc2AzZOj7T8A9sw/edit It should be pretty easy to figure out, I separated the three posts using big red letters. If anyone wants to copy my formatting exactly, use it as a base to setup your own style, or whatever, I'm fine with that. Its really pretty easy to maintain the thread; it only takes 30secs~ per update. Just have to make sure you check it for updates at least once a day. I've decided I'm not going to "make a ruling" regarding the controversy yesterday, I'll leave that up to whoever decides to take over the thread. Lastly, goodbye to everyone who I've played with and talked to on the forums. Its been fun running this, and I'm gonna miss it.

Updated, congrats on the clear. Also set up the template for NMSV.

So Rolly was in Select Few, he dropped guild and joined Hatred for their kill, went back to Select Few for your kill, and is now in Hatred again?

Hmm, looks like Rolly is in both Hatred's 8-man WH screenshot and Select Few's 16-man WH screenshot. Which guild is Rolly actually in? Select Few: http://i.imgur.com/yNR7UUo.jpg Hatred: http://i.imgur.com/hGeXHlh.jpg

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Updated. Congrats on the kills.

Updated, grats.

Updated.

Updated, congrats on the clear. Also, lol. I hope you get your money.

Updated with Hatred's kills. Congrats on getting it done pre-nerf, guys.

Its kind of hard to tell which side has more "top guilds" right now. I don't think we'll really be able to tell until we see people start clearing the Dread Guard Council on NM. Just looking at the WH, 15 guilds killed it within 24 hours of it opening; 7 Imp and 8 Rep. That being said, the WH is a terrible test of "top guilds". We (TRN) went in the raid at 5:00pm and had downed the boss within 15 minutes. One shot with zero deaths. I'm sure lots of other guilds experienced the same thing. If you want to go back to older content, we can look at both NMEC and HMSV. For NMEC, Hatred got their server first, and within two weeks two Rep guilds cleared it and no more Imp guilds cleared it. Before January 8th (the day the enrage timer was increased from 4:00 to 5:30), a total of 2 Imp guilds and 2 Rep guilds had cleared it. For the title, 2 Rep guilds had it and 1 Imp guild had it pre-nerf. Looking at HMSV, Hatred got server first again, and within one week a total of 5 Imp guilds and 3 Rep guilds had it cleared. Within 1 month, a total of 9 Imp guilds and 8 Rep guilds had it cleared. Another way to try and determine whether you should roll Imp or Rep here is to look at the recruiting forum and see which of the top guilds seem to recruit a lot. From what I've seen, it seems like there are usually more top Imp guilds recruiting. We (TRN) almost never recruit. We have 9 members, and we only recruit when one of our members quits the game. This has happened three times in the past year. From what I've seen, it seems like TSO is a small guild as well. There are some larger Rep guilds, though. It seems like Momentum is recruiting a lot, as is MLP: FiM. It seems like a lot of the top Imp guilds are almost always recruiting, and it seems like Imp guilds or more likely to have multiple raid teams. All of this is by no means scientifically proven, and is just the feel I get from looking at the recruitment forums. If I were you, I would check some of the top guilds websites, see if they are recruiting, and try and get in contact with their leadership. See if they seem like a good fit for you. I wouldn't think you would have a huge problem getting into guilds with your previous guild being Suckafish. I would try and have a guild in place before I leveled a new character, rather than level and then find out the perfect guild for you is on the opposing faction.

The screenshot you linked was shrunk. I was able to find the full size one on your website: http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws.com/108538/module_gallery/original/1297490.jpg Please link to the full size screenshot in the future, I couldn't read any of the names in the raid frames. Also, congrats on the kill.

Was that last night? Assuming it was for now, since last time you posted you said you were in Pacific time, and its not yet 9:54pm PDT today. Let me know if I need to change it, and congrats on killing it (again).

Server IP: 159.153.69.38 Found using CMD prompt to check my connections. Server Location: Redwood City, California Found using this website: http://iplocationtools.com/159.153.69.38.html

Updated.

Its located in northern California, not sure exactly which city. Its near Santa Clara iirc.

Cleaned up the OP, added the HMSV and HMTFB content to the "Old Content" section, and updated the two 16 man WH kills. Momentum, I couldn't tell what time you killed it. Please don't use imageshack, it shrinks the images so much that I can't make out the text. I guessed 7:22pm based on when you posted. Grats on the WH kills SF and Momentum. You are correct on how the rules work. To prove that you didn't cheat and get an out of order kill, you can: Post all your kills with UTC timestamps. Should be easy to tell if you killed the DG before the other bosses you are claiming credit for. Post the lockout. That way if you are posting an Op9/Kephess/TFB kill, we can see that you also killed the DG that week. Post your achievements. If you got the Op9 achievement after the DG achievement, you killed the DG first. This only works if your guild never skipped. I'd be willing to outright ban skipping altogether. If you ever skip, you would be banned from posting any future progression for that content. Its up to the community though, I don't care either way. Oh, and that would only apply to future content. It wouldn't be fair to change the rules in the middle of the contest.

Saw the video. It was a blurry mess, but it looked like it was two marauders, a merc, and a non-engineering sniper. Hard to tell, though. Also, updated with MLP's kill.

Suckafish is the guild getting it to 10%~. Has anyone been watching their streams? Are they abusing the Engineering Sniper roll glitch? Which I wouldn't consider cheating, but clearly gives a guild doing it a hefty advantage over other guilds. I don't think the fight would be intentionally designed to only be beatable by a bunch of engineering snipers rolling around.

Are you so sure? Do you know the forum handles of all your guild mates? Its clearly been a long term conspiracy to destroy your guild from the inside.

Yes, this is the old thread for HMs. I'll go through and do one final update of this thread on Tuesday.

Lots of things! First: From the OP: In the long run when you kill WH isn't really going to matter, so just post it again next week (or if someone in your guild got a screenshot during the boss, post that). Second: I live in California. My last update yesterday was at 10:50pm PDT. I wasn't ignoring them, they just posted after I stopped updating for the night. Also, as others pointed out, this thread is in PDT right now, not PST. Now that we are an international server, I'll try and make it more clear which we are using at the time. Right now it is PDT (UTC-7), in Octoberish it will switch to PST (UTC-8). EN's kill has been updated, and they are now server third on the WH. Third: We also haven't given up on it yet, and are elated that there is finally something challenging again. I personally think the fight isn't working as intended; why would the second fight randomly be way harder than all the other fights? That being said, I still think its probably possible. We only put three hours into it last night, and we still have a lot of room for improvement. Fourth: Here is how it works right now. Guild kills WH on 6/12. Gets credit. Guild skips DG. Guild kills Op9, Kephess, and TFB on 6/13. Guild gets no credit for these kills. DG is patched on 6/19, increasing the enrage timer by 30 seconds. Guild kills DG, Op9, Kephess, and TFB on 6/19. Gets credit for all those fights, the time of their kills will be 6/19. Currently I'm allowing people to skip ahead of the DG to get gear, but that guild gives up all progression kills for that week. If they come back next week, they are allowed to progress again. Lastly: Updated. Congrats on the WH kills everyone. Let me know if I missed anyone, there were a lot to update.