Mara can kill Imp ops in 2 - 3 seconds flat, I've seen it (and had it done to me) just lucky all crits in a row and you get smashed quick smart.

^^ This I still play against Rep teams full of sages and they are still rolling face, now they are just a TINY bit easier to kill for me (as an imp op) FINALLY (since pre 1.2 it was impossible to kill them) Imp Op healer is another thing all together, op as (good ones that know how to play anyways) also same as mara's , no idea why the most powerful class in the game got buffed... even the abilities they got ok so they were saying they were needed, what about dropping their dmg then / ******** cooldowns that allows them (I've seen it WZ after WZ killing 3 people and they aint scrubs either, the mara is just good but hell even a good play shouldn't be able to take out 3 other good players) I'm in full BM and a Mara can kill me in less than 2 seconds.... (as an Imp Op) I dunno seriously what Healers are crying about, you were OP before, now you are a bit more in line, if you cant adjust to playing a balanced class go away and stop crying.... I'm WAY more nerfed than you guys are yet I'm not crying about my class, I've SEEN good healers still playing and they dominate still. (BH's, Imp ops / sages etc)

Think the whole point was this was the MAIN reason a LOT of people actually resubbed, you know PAID MONEY and came back just not to have this in 1.2 is total horse **** to be honest. They had enough time to test it all (hell they had enough time to test this game within the 10 years of development) yet its broken as ****, and their patches are breaking the game more and more it seems as it goes along performance seems to be getting worse, in beta I never had these issues (and same with a lot of people that now report they are having issues) its like a structure (but is a game instead) that is being held together but 10,000 band aids, instead of being a solid structure its got cracks and splits and chunks missing but just covered by these band aids to hold it together and keep it working, its REALLY bad, the programmers and management should be fired, and EA should be ashamed for taking the cheap route out after the voice acting sucked all the money dry instead of giving them more time and moolah to invest in a DECENT engine and get it all right.

Most stupid thing ever, 1) You have to PAY for shipping to get your prize you won (first time I've never heard of this) 2) America only, WHAT A SURPRISE BIOWARE, its not like there are 50,000 + threads out there already complaining about how you favour Amerians over the rest of your client base, guess this is just another nail in the coffin eh?

And the whole thing could be avoided if A) They didn't hire some amateurs that do not know and or test their code and B) ACTUALLY RE TEST THE STUFF ON THE TEST SERVER. C) Fire everyone involved and hire people that can actually do their job. I really do blame EA or at least BW Management though as if all the money didn't go to the voice acting we would have got a SOLID Engine (not this BS Hero engine) like the CRY engine, solid working game with a LOT less bugs than it has (yes all games have bugs on release, not this many) and we would be all a lot happier than we are now. Pure n simple they did this game on the cheap (other than the voice acting) and it shows.

If this is the result of 1.2, can you imagine the result of a major patch like, 2.0? The game will be down for months....

I know hey.... fark me dead, talk about bad coders / testers (or both, normally they are 1 in the same though) my friend codes for a living and holy **** if he did this he would get ***** alive by his company, I shoulda known Bioware would be like this just after looking at what engine they went with (Hero over Cry Engine, SERIOUSLY?!?! ) and how BADLY they optimised the game, you can just tell either A) They were RUSHED (which I mean 10 years... come on) or B) They did EVERYTHING on the cheap apart from Voice acting, or C) Are just BAD BAD BAD coders. Or D) All of the above.

Rofl, couldn't help to agree with you there. I guess the bloke can't look outside his own area's cause here it is 2pm, others its 9 or 10pm, oh the irony.

Of 1 hour, its basically for a server reset to keep everything running smoothly, 1 hour is nothing, have a shower, something to eat, and done, let alone 4, 6 or 8 hours like BW does, and all in 1 week. 18 hours of downtime and counting this week woo hoo. No wonder they gave a free month out, at least its SOMETHING, I suggested this to them AGES ago for the issues people were having, least they have listened to 1 thing out of the 50 or so bug reports / suggestions I have done.

EXACTLY, someone that can actually read lol and EU gaming websites are already smashing SWTOR / BW for it.

Thanks Yeah really hope it is just if you have current game time, cause it says reoccurring subscriptions, cause I have mine canceled (still playing till its up) I do that with almost everything reoccurring, just incase I haven't got money in there get hit with stupid bank charges / dishonor fee's

Well I didn't know this, where did they say they are giving customers that? Never read anything about it, got a link at all? Thanks in advance.

We are being given 30 days playtime added? Where does it say that I never read anything like that? What happens with people that already paid time in game card form and is using it like that? Or is the statement you are referring to "Active subscription" Just mean have current time and able to play, rather than (BW's term) set up for future payments... It's just really pissing me off, 3 downtimes in 1 week, 4 , 6 and an 8 hour thus far.... and all during either the day for me (not early, like smack right in the middle of the day)

Exactly... BUT, has Bioware yet to refund anyone? No lol. And I'm pretty sure people have experienced a LOT of bugs wrecking their playing experience (I know I have) with WoW (and no I'm not a fan boy defending them, just stating facts) at least I got $$$ back for my play experience being wrecked, or not being able to play at all, something I cannot say for BW.

I agree but its not hard to change, they just implemented it completely wrong, if they did it the way you are saying which is very hard to change (as in integrated into EVERYTHING) then when cross server Groups / WZ's etc come in then it should be all across all of them (including all america, all EU etc, but I very much doubt they did this) so it SHOULD be an easy fix, its just like the bug / performance issues in this game, they just ignore them and pretend they are not a problem hoping the people complaining will just either shut up and keep paying or leave (I'm guessing they are hoping for the first, specially EA)

A) Not everyone works during the day, just cause you do, have some consideration for other people (although I'm not sure if you do, since you are typing this now) B) This also effects Australia / NZ / Singapore and the rest, that it is 9pm there so peak time on a Friday night. C) Bioware seem incapable (or simply ignorant) of anyone outside America of how it effects them otherwise they would have done what Blizzard did with WoW and put them on separate time schedules for mait and downtime.

I agree, BUT, it was bad enough they brought the patch in yesterday so adds to another what was it, 8 or 10 hour downtime? Then they bring it down again today.... and normal mait also.. why the hell couldn't this be down on normal mait day? ALSO CHANGE THE TIME SCHEDULE FOR EUROPE RETARDED BIOWARE!

I feel your pain, I'm Aussie also (but actually in Germany at the moment) I wake up, my day off, want to play some SWTOR, you know, I pay for it, its down, wow what a surprise, AGAIN, after every patch it goes down again, and during the mid day time of Europe.... it's pathetic to say the least, I swear Bioware does not even THINK before implementing stuff (like the scheduled downtime of servers for ANYWHERE but America, typical American's only thinking inside their little box.) Pity cause Europe sold more copies and has a bigger customer base then America yet they STILL don't get it. #@@$ WoW took down servers at seperate times for Americans / EU, dunno why Bioware can't, useless!

This ^^

Exactly! On my server I've seriously looked for hours and hours each day for multiple days now for Hard Modes (BT or any) and the server is dead apart from PvP , how the hell am I suppose to / get these then? No chance. The people that have them that smash and have the advantage in pvp now were all lucky enough to get them while the server still has some population left on it...

I sure do, people keep saying it, if Bioware admit the problem it will be a huge issue for them, (even though it is already) they think ignoring it is best, I don't think it is a possible fix TBH, it SEEMS (and from friends that work on games for a living) to be Engine related / bad coding, and would not be able to be fixed without a HUGE re write of almost the entire game, they just wont do that. I'm getting EXACTLY (well you know and the other 5000 + posts out there at LEAST and that is not even counting outside forums which its plagued with also) the same problems as you, I can get 60 - 100 fps , in warzones I'm getting around 18, so its instantly lower with occasionally going under 10.... (its not my computer, Bioware even double checked this, said specs are fine, they should be they can run crysis 2, BF3 etc full) rubberbanding, etc is just a HUGE issue with this game I have not experienced since Asherons Call 2! I've never had such issues with an MMO PvP wise like SWTOR (some people don't, that's great, this is for the people that do, which is a LOT, so for those who don't have a problem enjoy the game, you are the minority getting no issues) it is just a game ruining experience for me, people keep saying wait for 1.2, I honestly don't think they will fix it, they have not even acknowledged the problem or working on a solution and like I've said above (and many other people) I don't think a fix is possible. For me its a game breaker having low fps to start with let alone worse spikes of it, rubberbanding, trying to hit people 1/4 of the time in fights for the ability to say not behind the target (or close enough) just for 2 seconds later them teleport 2 meters away from you (yet the stun went off?) people jumping down from huttball, you jump after them only to appear back at the top, ability delays. All these are common problems Bioware needs to address, AGAIN its not my computer, nor connection, I do not get it on ANY OTHER GAME APART FROM SWTOR!

I couldn't agree with you more, actually me and all the people I know personally who play this game think exactly the same way, as in this game was meant to be a LOT more than it is and was on release, for the people who say oh its only been 3 months, this has had 10 years in development, how much more time do you need, that is more time than most MMO's (and almost double compared to some). It IS exactly how you say missing SO much stuff I feel they DID have a picture in mind but they just spent that long on voice acting (and inside sources say that's where most of their time and money was spent) the game overall has suffered because of it. Don't get me wrong, I was defending this game like nothing else to bad people saying bad things about it but now only after 3 months of playing I see why people have left, honestly and I bought the collectors, went all out and was FULLY looking forward to the game, it is the fastest mmo I've ever got bored of and I thought I would be here for a very long time, just makes me sad of a game that could have been. Saying that 3 guilds that I've been in (4th now) and they just all up and left, the game entirely, out of my real life friends and family, I'm the only one left playing also, they all give the same reasons

I saw that connection to actually, Valor first of all to get gear, now not (exactly the same as vanilla wow) its just happening a LOT faster. It feels honestly (and I don't want this to be true) 1.2 will last about 1 - 2 months of entertainment.... for us who play a fair bit anyways...

I couldn't agree more, and I didn't know the gear now requires no valor ranks, why the HELL was it put in the first place just to be removed in the very next major patch, Bioware are an EPIC fail for a pvp pleaser crowd imo, and with this system people will have the best stuff (specially all the people that actually do pvp now are already full or near full BM gear) will just trade in for instant war hero gear.... yay entertained what, for another month or 2 at the most? Talk about piss poor thought / effort on Biowares part.

^^ This Also I noticed the people that whinge most and leave and quit are the ones that bash on a tank or dps all day long and quit when we lose, how about learning to play, learning who to focus and stopping running in 1 v 3 or 4 people /facepalm