I doubt it very much mate, I got a guildie who plays a Imp Op healer and he can not kill anything if they are a decent player (although they cannot kill him also) people who said what you did are normally on the end of Imp Ops on release, hell I was, I didn't even have an Imp op until AFTER their first big nerf, I was on the RECEIVING end on my sorc, I STILL don't believe they were OP, they were simply my anti class, I didn't come on the forums crying nerf them nerf them cause I know how GROUP PvP is balanced.

Very annoying

Since we are nerfed to hell, I've seen most Imp Ops just disappear, I'm thinking about quitting myself, along with the bugs and performance issues of this game my class was nerfed to beyond a joke and compared to well almost any other class its just laughable, healers basically (geared ones, not scrubs) just laugh at you when trying to 1v1 them. Also it seems like basically we've lost our unique ability which is WHY we were nerfed in 1.2 , being able to stunlock someone till they were dead (this was situational at best because it relied on them not having their CC breaker ability up) ANY class can do this now, hell a 4 second stun = your dead by anyone but our class since we do such gimped damage. We guard the LEAST best on any node out of all classes, since we get smashed SO fast its just laughable really, mara's always joke how fast we go down, we are like paper, the only thing we USE to have is nice (the best) burst damage, something we don't have now, and actually FAR from it. Its basically unless you are a healer why even bother being an Imp Op, they use to be fun to play, kind of are still (as I'm still playing mine) but I'm really getting over anytime I'm alone 1v1 is no chance vs EVERY other class out there, we are no ones anti class anymore, we USE to be sorcs / sages as far as I can tell, but since most people play these 2 classes and we actually beat them (OH NO, working as intended, cant have that) they had a huge cry and we got nerfed to HELL and back. So when are we going to be fixed? Mara's, arguably the most op class gets a buff, tanks are insanely good now, I wouldn't say OP because I think they've just been really REALLY fixed cause in PvP they can soak damage like you don't believe (PS I'm playing and comparing all BM + geared people so anyone who isn't in this tier bracket might disagree, but is not the case at this lvl) everyone just seems to have something, but Imp Operative now.... We all know if you have played multiple characters like I have or even vs'd them, what they have compared to the Imp Op for offensive and defensive abilities and we are just that gimp, WHY are we not being looked at?

It does not remove all hostile effects at all, PVP dots etc it does not remove, the ONLY thing it removes is movement impairing effects (Although its pathetic to say the least, anything that can stun you it doesn't stop either, all force **** it lets through, it is good only against, LASER GUNS! pew pew) seriously its useless against everything else, even a person swinging and missing (or if they are good and see the shield up) they just force choke you or some bs instead, it is almost useless, nothing compared to what our competition has.

LoL that post above yours.... ***.... anyways moving on lol Right on the ball with Huttball it happens most in, 1.2 did fix it, instead of like 40 -50% of the time it happening I maybe get it about 25% now, to the above poster after the one I'm quoting above, my ping is 40 - 50ms at most, I'm local (Germany) playing on EU servers, with nothing else running in the background to interfere with computer or internet performance, so not sure what else I can do apart from wait for Bioware to fix it Thing is I don't have any other problems with ANY other games with them doing this, I soooo wanna play this game just bug and trouble free with good performance, just doesn't seem possible! , Read on other posts people buying whole new computers and has not even fixed these issues (cause of people saying its your computer etc) expensive way of doing it for no gains either....

I have noticed it in huttball also the most so yeah you got a point there ^^

Yeah a lot of guildies say they HATE the lag in this game and don't get it anywhere else, sigh... wonder if it will ever be fixed, if its not by the time my free month is up I might just not bother anymore, cant play like this.

Aye, not many would know

I agree mate, its taking a LONG time, constantly I remember MMO's during their weekly stuff applying patches or even urgent hot fixes, TBH I think Bioware are dropping the ball a fair bit, I know it doesn't take a lot of work to fix this crap unless their code is completely screwed to start with (and some people have explained it is) hence why there are SO many issues and there are just not getting fixed cause it is SO hard to do so, it NORMALLY is a simple procedure.... I'm getting these issues http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4018928#post4018928 (since I don't wanna post it everywhere in every thread I'll just give u the link) , its really game breaking for me, I cannot play properly and my patience is running out, playing for now the 5th month since SWTOR has been out (since I got in pre release also) the game HONESTLY seemed less buggy in beta and pre release to all the patches, performed better to, seems to be getting worse instead of better with each patch.... and people are noticing and LEAVING to. Wish bioware would get their act together cause I spent a lot of money on this game (went all out and bought collectors) and so far I'm really disappointed with how they have handled things.

Good I'm glad I'm not the only one, I knew it wasn't just me or "lag" since it doesn't happen on any of the other games I play (or did in the past) this stuff needs be sorted asap Pretty disappointed the way they've been fixing stuff lately (or well TBH since the game launched... ) spent a lot of money on this game (Went all out and got collectors) and been really disappointed how they have handled bugs and performance issues so far....

^^^ This is true, my 5870 gets 30fps (spikes down to 11fps) but turning the graphics down to LOWEST does NOTHING , I get NO increase in frame rate at all, *** is up with that Bioware? Obviously **** programming at work.... (its been said before and its just turning out to be more true) PS Thing is I can and do play Crysis 2 etc all on max settings APART from AA (which I turn to x2 since I run at 1920 x 1080 you cannot notice the difference apart from the frame rate) , its just pathetic how poorly this game runs and god the bugs....

Yeah today I had a new one I was stuck in cover the whole time and couldn't get out, when I died I couldn't move (from the laying down dead position so was almost booted from the WZ, but thankfully we won just before hand) Also to add... To start with I'm an Imp Op, Open with a Hidden strike, now I'd say around 20 - 25% of the time something like this happens after..... The person disappears, like completely, I cannot hit them, it says I am not in range.... now they either just appear a few meters away from me, where I run to, then start hitting them.... ok.... OR they appear BACK in the spot where it said they just were not... (where I stunned them) OR more recently only since 1.2 they sometimes disappear in to the ground (can just see their head or like they are walking / running) THEN appear somewhere else also, this is the ONLY game I've played that does this.... I get no lag in any other game (and swtor I'm running at around 40ms) so *** this is a game breaking mechanic for me, I cannot pvp like this for much longer.... (add to the AWFUL FPS issues STILL in WZ's and omg...) they REALLY need to get their **** together.... PS Some people asked me what rubber banding was, its where for example a ball carrier (or someone you are fighting) gets knocked off the edge or jumps off etc, then appears back up the top (sometimes you even see them flash really fast between the ground and the ledge also before they appear back up there) Like I said though, my computer specs are far and beyond Biowares min or even recommended requirements, sent them dxdiag etc etc , they cant see any problems (I actually worked for tech support in the past helping people update all their crap and get past computer / Internet issues so not stranger in this department) have all the latest updates with windows, vid card, the works. Get no lag in any other game, no lag spikes on my latency bar, (I cant tell when there are cause **** just doesn't work, and this is not the case) and like I said I get it with NO other games, other people have reported the exact same thing.... I'm local to the server I'm on (EU on EU server, in Germany, solid ISP, some of the best Internet reliability wise in the world so I'm told) its just NOT lag. I went and played back on WoW for a scroll of ressurection someone sent me, no issues there, BF3, no issues, call of duty, no issues, LoL and Eve, no issues, so yeah I doubt its lag. Also sent my DxDiag to Bioware and they have replied saying everything looks good my end.

Yeah def not doing that that is far away from anything I'm pressing, although I forgot to add to the list random detargeting (although there was a post made by this and everyone I know confirms this is an issue) the one that I posted above (well all of them) seems some people get it and some not (like the fps issues) so bioware seems to ignore it Just cant play and its not enjoyable what so ever like this....

Because a LOT of people in game have said they do and some friends of mine also... To start with I'm an Imp Op, Open with a Hidden strike, now I'd say around 20 - 25% of the time something like this happens after..... The person disappears, like completely, I cannot hit them, it says I am not in range.... now they either just appear a few meters away from me, where I run to, then start hitting them.... ok.... OR they appear BACK in the spot where it said they just were not... (where I stunned them) OR more recently only since 1.2 they sometimes disappear in to the ground (can just see their head or like they are walking / running) THEN appear somewhere else also, this is the ONLY game I've played that does this.... I get no lag in any other game (and swtor I'm running at around 40ms) so *** this is a game breaking mechanic for me, I cannot pvp like this for much longer.... (add to the AWFUL FPS issues STILL in WZ's and omg...) they REALLY need to get their **** together.... PS Some people asked me what rubber banding was, its where for example a ball carrier (or someone you are fighting) gets knocked off the edge or jumps off etc, then appears back up the top (sometimes you even see them flash really fast between the ground and the ledge also before they appear back up there) Like I said though, my computer specs are far and beyond Biowares min or even recommended requirements, sent them dxdiag etc etc , they cant see any problems (I actually worked for tech support in the past helping people update all their crap and get past computer / Internet issues so not stranger in this department) have all the latest updates with windows, vid card, the works. Get no lag in any other game, no lag spikes on my latency bar, (I cant tell when there are cause **** just doesn't work, and this is not the case) and like I said I get it with NO other games, other people have reported the exact same thing.... I'm local to the server I'm on (EU on EU server, in Germany, solid ISP, some of the best Internet reliability wise in the world so I'm told) its just NOT lag. I went and played back on WoW for a scroll of ressurection someone sent me, no issues there, BF3, no issues, call of duty, no issues, LoL and Eve, no issues, so yeah I doubt its lag.

I just posted something similar to this but it disappears that fast off the first page it doesn't get a chance to even get ready (only by maybe 1 or 2 people and bang its gone unless they write something) I'll add to what I said below so it bumps your comment which I'm getting the same thing also AND can run the games you mentioned also fine, yet this game just omg..... To start with I'm an Imp Op, Open with a Hidden strike, now I'd say around 20 - 25% of the time something like this happens after..... The person disappears, like completely, I cannot hit them, it says I am not in range.... now they either just appear a few meters away from me, where I run to, then start hitting them.... ok.... OR they appear BACK in the spot where it said they just were not... (where I stunned them) OR more recently only since 1.2 they sometimes disappear in to the ground (can just see their head or like they are walking / running) THEN appear somewhere else also, this is the ONLY game I've played that does this.... I get no lag in any other game (and swtor I'm running at around 40ms) so *** this is a game breaking mechanic for me, I cannot pvp like this for much longer.... (add to the AWFUL FPS issues STILL in WZ's and omg...) they REALLY need to get their **** together.... PS Some people asked me what rubber banding was, its where for example a ball carrier (or someone you are fighting) gets knocked off the edge or jumps off etc, then appears back up the top (sometimes you even see them flash really fast between the ground and the ledge also before they appear back up there)

Couldn't agree more with everything you said mate, we are the most gimped class at the moment, people come in here just to compare with their classes, unless they play one (which the majority do not or have not) they have no clue and just say stop crying etc, at release and in beta we were sorcs anti class (and sages) , the 2 most popular played classes, I'm guessing they didn't like dying so they had a HUGE whinge and since there was so many, we got hit, which is complete ********, we now are NO ones anti class, at all, period. Oh and the most OP class Sent / Mara get a buff, way to go....

Like I said though, my computer specs are far and beyond Biowares min or even recommended requirements, sent them dxdiag etc etc , they cant see any problems (I actually worked for tech support in the past helping people update all their crap and get past computer / Internet issues so not stranger in this department) have all the latest updates with windows, vid card, the works. Get no lag in any other game, no lag spikes on my latency bar, (I cant tell when there are cause **** just doesn't work, and this is not the case) and like I said I get it with NO other games, other people have reported the exact same thing.... I'm local to the server I'm on (EU on EU server, in Germany, solid ISP, some of the best Internet reliability wise in the world so I'm told) its just NOT lag. I went and played back on WoW for a scroll of ressurection someone sent me, no issues there, BF3, no issues, call of duty, no issues, LoL and Eve, no issues, so yeah I doubt its lag.

I know what you mean, but the way the game is at the moment (capping WZ points etc) you NEED to be able to kill stuff fast, it was a joke before how long it took for healers (and others) to go down because quite simply, you could be fighting at a node forever if each side had healers, now its a lot more quick switching to throw them off guard and if you don't adjust fast enough you (or your buddies) die, I like it (finally) like this as before as an Imp Op, killing anything that I couldn't stunlock (which basically if they have a CC breaker up I'm f'd) was not fun, now it is, although we are still the most gimp class out there, at least it is better than before... TBH I enjoyed the game most at launch but to many kids QQ'd and BW reacted, (funny enough sorcs and sages the most played classes) and their anti class, yes Imp Ops got the nerf bat, TWICE, both times totally unnecessary, since most of the time (1 if their cc breaker ability was up they would not die, unless they were a sorc, which we were, WERE being the key word, their anti class) our class was all about burst, now we are like, I dunno, a gimped sin / shadow (Invul shield > Evasion EASILY, and vanish gets rid of all dots etc on them, PLUS more burst dmg and more survivability.... ) BW fails though on balance aspect, all this said just look at mara's.... / sents now, OP before and they get a buff.... awesome work BW.

Sorry to say but everyone I spoke to (hell even the video's Bioware released) makes it out to be mainly a PvP focused game with PvE slapped on to break it up (or just for pure PvE'rs) also I believe they did say PvP was a HUGE if not the main aspect of the game a while ago in one of their main articles before the game came out.

To start with I'm an Imp Op, Open with a Hidden strike, now I'd say around 20 - 25% of the time something like this happens after..... The person disappears, like completely, I cannot hit them, it says I am not in range.... now they either just appear a few meters away from me, where I run to, then start hitting them.... ok.... OR they appear BACK in the spot where it said they just were not... (where I stunned them) OR more recently only since 1.2 they sometimes disappear in to the ground (can just see their head or like they are walking / running) THEN appear somewhere else also, this is the ONLY game I've played that does this.... I get no lag in any other game (and swtor I'm running at around 40ms) so *** this is a game breaking mechanic for me, I cannot pvp like this for much longer.... (add to the AWFUL FPS issues STILL in WZ's and omg...) they REALLY need to get their **** together.... PS Some people asked me what rubber banding was, its where for example a ball carrier (or someone you are fighting) gets knocked off the edge or jumps off etc, then appears back up the top (sometimes you even see them flash really fast between the ground and the ledge also before they appear back up there)

To the OP, love it, agree with it all completely, but holy **** do I HAVE to add in (to everything I agree with in yours 100%) the RUBBER BANDING / bugs in the WZ's.... To start with I'm an Imp Op, Open with a Hidden strike, now I'd say around 20 - 25% of the time something like this happens after..... The person disappears, like completely, I cannot hit them, it says I am not in range.... now they either just appear a few meters away from me, where I run to, then start hitting them.... ok.... OR they appear BACK in the spot where it said they just were not... (where I stunned them) OR more recently only since 1.2 they sometimes disappear in to the ground (can just see their head or like they are walking / running) THEN appear somewhere else also, this is the ONLY game I've played that does this.... I get no lag in any other game (and swtor I'm running at around 40ms) so *** this is a game breaking mechanic for me, I cannot pvp like this for much longer.... (add to the AWFUL FPS issues STILL in WZ's and omg...) they REALLY need to get their **** together....

Loved UO, but didn't play it that much the PvP side of things anyways, just cause I think my friends were not that into it, after that I didn't care and started doing my own thing. SWG was awesome fun, the way the Jedi were actually mysterious etc, just like the movie they did REALLY well (I played before expac packs etc though, but I really enjoyed it) Asherons Call 2 was really good PvP was none of this 2 shotting someone was really solid pvp. Planetside was damnnnnn fun, use to play with my brother for hours and hours every day on this thing, was great! WoW was awesome in its day, I actually enjoyed Vanilla a LOT, TM vs SS was really really good world PvP. Saying this they did go through all modes, cause I really enjoyed BG's also when they first came out, Enchancement Shaman with WF was awesome. Also Mage. Single shotting stuff was fun back then but then it moved on also to nice things with Arena , resil na all that as well. It's probably the only game I enjoyed every element of but it got old (like all things do) so got boring after so long. Age of Conan was really fun PvP wise, I dunno it didn't keep me cause of balance I think, plus WAR came out and well WAR was damn awesome, some of the most fun I've EVER had in PvP, it is insanely good but well the people didn't know how to run an MMO (reminds me of SWTOR actually) and the game got ruined, nerf after nerf (of the wrong classes, again reminds me of SWTOR) and the OP ones were left as is, people got over it and left. Didn't like Guild Wars the original, I'm really hoping GW2 is a lot better (it certainly looks the goods) Saying that I really REALLY hoped SWTOR was a lot better than it currently is, I think its getting worse if that is even possible, performance, balance etc all seemed even better at release than it is now... (again reminds me of WAR in that department, although I had more fun there...) and the game is STILL really REALLY buggy for me , huge fps issues, rubberbanding is the worst in pvp I've ever experienced EVER, de targeting in pvp for no reason, the list just goes on.... Now look what you made me do OP, I miss all those games! Oh the memory's....

Try an imperial op (or smuggler) its everything is hard to vs 1v1 or impossible lol, nothing is easy anymore, we are not an anti class to ANYONE anymore. Haven't been since our first big nerf, let alone the 2nd.

I know, its pathetic, for the class that is the most squashy our burst dps sure does suck now, cant even burst clothies down before they sprint shield heal themselves up to full and laugh at me, I miss how the game was originally, it seems to be getting worse and worse with every patch, performance wise, balance wise, pvp wise

Happens a lot on my server also, sucks really I find most of the time its vs reps they leave though, tbh when your vs'n something like 6 sages... whats the point of staying