I see this thread as kind of pointless because it seems to be written by this type of people that i see in pvp : -gunslinger : damn op healers QQ, end of game sees score of smasher sent OH F*** how can someone get 1.1k dps? I mean this is exactly the type of baddy that qq's about healing is op and gets excited about an average performance of another dps. I men seriously people LEARN TO PLAY.

It's kind of a tanks role to mitigate damage. To sum up lates QQ threads : Healers op nerf. Tanks op nerf. 8v8 dps warzones should be the case so people drop like flies, it would be so much fun. QQ

No idea where I stated we got beat by pugs? Statement : if 2 premades come against one another the pug factor determines who wins, or rather who has the less useless pugs . You know ... all those 70k damage nightmares that fail to get a medal.

You must be the best player in this game if you can easy-mode-rotation flame burst AS A MERK. Please stop posting since you are proving that you have no idea what this topic is about, let alone class balance. Pyro has been destryed and I dont even mind, still plaing my vanguard, still toping dps, does not mean it's fine.

As long as you place a stacking dps debuff dependant on how many dps your team has .

I was pugging today and I ninjacapped a node from the other pug group. I ruined their warzone BAN ME.

You mean a warzone with just you and nobody else? That is a true solo warzone ^^.

As far as regulars go. Not our fault you guys are bad and are dragging your own teams down because you get premades on your own team as often as on the other team, thus all QQers are so bad that they drag down their premades thus they are bad and thus deserve to wipe.

If the premade "problem" is as bad as you people are making it to be ... you people do understand if there is a premade in EVERY WARZONE THEN PREMADES ARE 50% of the pvp playerbase. SO STOP THE QQ because you puggers are NOT the majority.

If you dont like pvp dont do it.

You bads know why people premade? So they reduce the chances of having all those 50k damage badds on their teams. End.

I just made a statement

Well personally I perform good outside of premades ... and bad pugs are bad whether they have a premade to carry tchem or not

Actually we are having quite a laugh at bads too . Though when I see such uselesness when I pug, I just go afk on the bads, no point trying to carry them . On a side note, some of you bads are actually THAT bad that it is simply impossible to carry you LMAO.

In response to recent QQ threads updating : -PUG tanks are ruining warzones becuse they do no damage and no protection -PUG healers re ruining warzones because they don't heal -full pug groups are ruining warzones because being stuck with 7 bads that fail to do 100k damage/healing is just awful. End of my QQ.

I disagree. shoulder cannon is by far the most ridiculously overpowered skill in the game. It hits people for 1.2k ! 1.2k NERF. On a serious note ... yes operative healing is easy then again tell me a class that is not easy in this game?

/shoo Bleezar

It is possible to que in a premade of up to 4 players in regulars thus it is meant that way.

*I* was healing them so I know they were getting healed a lot and they were *NOT* dying more than my premade friends.

Your problem is that you do not understand that there should be only a rated que because that way the bad players would have low rating and would be put against other bad players thus they would never face op faceroll premades . I find no reason to feel ashamed in loosing a 5 v 8.

So im in this overpowered faceroll premade and the stats of the warzone we lost are : -premade dps : 900k damage (top) -premade tank 200k damage 210k protection (1 protection of wz and 3rd dps of team) -premade healer 1 -1.1 milion healing (1st of wz) -premade healer 2 - 900k healing (3rd of wz) -pug 1 - 83k damage, and 191, YES 191 protection -pug 2 - 73k damage, 0 protection -pug 3 - 63k damage, 0 protection -pug 4 -smasher sent, he was actually ok, made 5th or 6th dps of wz. All 3 of those pvp-atrocities finished the hypergate that lasted 10 or 15 minutes witn no medals because they didnt even contribute, not at all. The enemy team average damage was around 500-600k. My point here is that a premade is at best 50% of the team and you pugs make or break a game as much as a premade. So if you keep loosing it's not because premades are rolling over you and are allways on the other team, its because ; YOU ARE SO HORRIBLY BAD THAT YOU DRAG DOWN EVERY SINGLE GAME AND EVERY SINGLE TEAM THAT YOU ARE IN BECAUSE YOU ARE SO COMPLETLY BAD AND USELESS AT PVP. NOW STOP THE QQ AND LEARN TO PLAY

So the conclusion of this thread is : you people are crying about good players grouping together and that you loose to them. Your suggested solution is banning premades so the good players have to carry you bads, now that is not the point of pvp. LEARN TO PLAY and carry yourselves.

I make a pve preamde, roll over SOA in EV and get a reward. Your point is?

I play a vanguard my killing blow misses a lot ... oh wait nevermind.

If you are so "bad" you should keep getting rolled over - its only natural that the better team wins.