Considering they have said NOTHING on this subject, even the rainbow crowd can agree that it aint gonna happen........Lets face it, they are not going to pay all those dollars to give a minority of users a couple of new dialogues and a FTB screen, get real.

I'm sorry to say it BUT "We told you so".....(see my sig). Those of us that have seen this before knew full well what a scam it is but we were heckled and trolled. Its sad but I feel a little bit of satisfaction at being proven right. Its just sad they have to resort to ripping people off, just put the items up for sale, dont gouge your playerbase EA!

All would be well BUT you fail to take into consideration a few things. I for one am tired of STILL having issues, lag, graphical issues, CTD's and thats when I can actually get into the game, its a joke. I for one will be going elsewhere and waiting in the hope they actually FIX stuff they broke. Unsubbed with a few days left and not wasting any more cash. 1) HK was already in beta but removed with little explanation beyond "issues" although it worked as intended. I can see the novelty value of HK BUT this companion serves no practical purpose to a DPS player like myself who has no use for it..........As I said it is a novelty at best. 2) A few dailies hardly measures up to a "major" content patch............. 3) PvP is seriously lacking in SWTOR, with only 3 maps and the mechanics are still in need of balancing/tweaking 4) The BW/EA policy of only allowing a chosen few to have toons copied to PTS have doomed ANY content to not be tested as it should, resulting in the issues we are facing now, with ongoing issues some STILL outstanding from 1.4 and before...... To call players "spoiled" is brash and quite frankly laughable.

Sorry Bud, my patience was exhausted on 1.4........They are willing to take your cash but not fix what they broke, plain and simple. How about they actually FIX their product before trying to squeeze they players for more cash?

I like many other have been patient with EA/BW but this takes the prize. I have had issues since 1.4, CTD's, lag spikes, massive FPS drops general bugginess and NOW we cant log in at all. I have posted on the cs forums to no avail and really do think this is a turning point for me. I stayed subbed against my better judgement but no longer, I payed my sub a few days ago, and would like a refund please. The product is clearly broken, with not even a hint of a time-frame for a fix.

@ OP........What did you expect? You are just the sort of person that EA loves, more cash than brains. The discussion regarding the ethics behind the cash grab boxes has gone on for a while. Its a scam plain and simple. No sympathy at all.

Welcome to the F2P business model which allows EA/BW to gouge players for stuff that SHOULD be in a normal content patch

To all those who said "WE" were QQing about the box scam, "I told you so just doesnt cut it" lol This cash-grab was seen a mile off yet people STILL claimed it was better to wait and see....ITS A CASH GRAB!! Plain ans simple.

Anyone who ran SWG after they introduced heroics will pretty much know where Im coming from when I say this: Players should NEVER be forced to group, HOWEVER, if the same players wish to participate in high-level epic content need to be geared, and they way they encouraged this was to introduce heroic jewellery sets which can be bought from vendors with tokens earned by completing heroic instances (HOTH was my fav, anyone who thinks SWTOR Hoth is cool, how about taking part in the attack on Echo base from ESB?). This sort of thing allowed the player to purchase a set and NOT be reliant on random drops. IF players were rewarded right, they will play? (There were at leat 2 sets and 2 generic sets, not limited to PvE or PvP)

Being as we have only had a quick glimpse, I'm almost certain that P2W items are there or WILL BE very soo. They have already stated orange mid-range gear sets etc so yeah there will be. (people are mostly mistaken by the P2W label, thinking P2W is when they sell an item that lets you face-roll players or PVE but thats not the case. ANY item that has game-changing stats can be classed as P2W (example: gamer 1 goes into a flashpoint with gear obtained piecemeal and gets mauled.....gamer 2 buys a set of orange gear and presto, walks it....THAT is P2W) These items WILL be there at launch with more coming. THIS is one reason I do not like F2P, its a derivative of the eastern MMo where they see no issue with P2W, in fact its quite the reverse there.

Anyone who played SWG remembers the busy cities, cantinas, the gossip, chat and fun that were to be had when you could see more than a handful of players. Instancing kill community in MMo's, the same was said about STO and others, it may as well be multiplayer, NOT MMo.

MY bad, missed a line. disregard

Read it again they get all rewards up to 15 nov......

So, now we have the news that ALL subbers who re-activate their account by DEC 20th will have all the rewards as per a subber who foolishly stayed subbed to get the coin rewards in the first place........ Could this be any more of a slap in the face? I really do hate the way this company goes from one PR disaster to the next, whos in charge over there , Big Bird? I have now WASTED all my sub fees since FTP was first floated, and am very peeved indeed.

Guys it was inevitable for game changing gear and perks, I DID see legacy perks on the cartel store so yeah its gonna be P2W after a while. Its not only that but other stuff they are putting in the store......you dont think they are going to do ALL THIS WORK to put sparkle powder in the store??? They will throw EVERYTHING on there they possibly can, take for instance the Tulack horde relic, retaliates with an attack of its own when its user is attacked........ Yes I know its in the cash-grab-bags but thats my point, THEY are going to milk this for all its worth, sad times ahead, now if only I could get my FPS into double figures /rollseyes ............

I bought mine from the GTN

Bucket list is right

It says India on my car tyres but I have never been there.........

Will BW be gouging its players to the max as expected and farming out content that SHOULD have been in game (in reality its been held back for FTP)...........FFS wake up players you morons!

I really just CANT be arsed commenting over this any more, vote with your wallets guys. Thats the only way to get your point across, and for sure its one of the few things they understand.

My guess is a big yes, this was my argument, and was told MOST purples are end-game.......

Did they reduce the number for F2P to the 2 regular ones and jest leave it as normal for subs though?

The only issue here, with a sub is this: In my experience of FTP transitions etc, the bean counters tend to steer the direction of the game towards "fluff" items rather than meat and two-veg content. New races, gear etc WILL be available BUT I would be very surprised if subbers were given unlimited access to these......... I am of the opinion that my sub is enough, but thats NOT EA's opinion by a longshot, anyone who was present at STO's downfall will tell you how badly players can be gouged.

"Fear mongering".......? Er no, its called experience. ANYONE who does their research knows that the FTP business model does not gel well with the way us westerners like to game, SO they change the rulebook to the way of the "Eastern" MMo's who have NO QUALMS about the pay to win scenario and see it more of a status. Having experienced the rough end of 2 F2P transitions, I have yet to see a company that did not gouge its customers and do a u-turn on the "no game-changing gear in the store" line, which we all know is utter tripe.

Having experienced the bounty hunter class of SWG I really dont think this is a good idea. 1) There are no areas where Imp BH's can actively "hunt" their 'Pub mark........... 2) Having hunted MANY players over the years, I learned one thing.........Players being hunted will either hide in a structure you have no access to, OR run and log off. Good idea but no way to implement this as the game stands.