Es fehlt der Buff vom Tele-Sage. :'''(

Maybe listen before commenting?

Been here since launch, in PvP since a few weeks later. I wash shy, but Ilum lead me to it.

21:05... Keith plays Sage a lot. ^^ Hope incoming in mid future? God bubble not working as intended, yet! http://badfeelingpodcast.com/audio/podcasts/episode_162_final.mp3

Or closer. Close-combat-Sage ftw! Anyway it's more important to be close to an LoS object and in range of enemy healers, than your actual cast range. Only hypergates sometimes is annoying here... Meh, this nerf is a pain. I overall hoped for a dmg buff for turbulence, so this easy to shut down mega cast finally hits worth its downsides... instead first step is to nerf my offheal. :'X

Uärghs, warum wird der DPS Sage gleich mitgetroffen. :-/

Checking the massive amount of threads with weird topics this guy created makes me think we should stop commenting to not to support destabilizing his mental condition. There is obviously something wrong ...

Which they can, so what is the point here?

Yeah, I guess the whole thing is also a matter of perspective. To me personally the melee-train felt much worse than sniper+merc ocean we are drowning in today, cause they can be LoSed, while the freaking Juggs+PTs, that would hunt you through the whole warzone, couldn't be avoided. So I still enjoy playing it. Others don't seem to. Seems most mercs play bad anyway, cause I rarely get the e-net at the tricky times. I often get away unpunished, if there is no premade using it at the right times. And as somebody mentioned before... the whole phasewalk thingy. We didn't have it in melee-train times. So I indeed feel better these days than back then. You surely also have to adapt your choice of utilities. Stun-bubble and rooting isn't that important anymore, while you surely need the root-breaker for sprinting out, else every sniper gets you pants down. I know at least one good sage that doesn't use the utility for turbulence casting while walking, cause practically you don't need it as much as in the past. That frees one slot for other interesting stuff. As I previously said, I see myself not as a very good player and I manage to have fun and be good in DPS output and I am not totally useless when it comes to kills, not to mention defending objectives. So if I can be ok, a skilled player that is more familiar with other classes and stuff, should be able to make a difference in 8-player-WZs. Rated is another area, I am only talking about 8-player-WZs.

Ah, the internet, a wonderful place, where people feel strong cause they are able to type.

As I said, I main the freaking thing since ages. ^^ I know how it is to have those guys on you all time. You cannot change if one of them has a crush on you all match, but you can solve a lot by just not using the usual ranged-DD-positioning. Always be close to an LoS-object, avoid avoid avoid. Cast-sage was never great to play, too easy to shut down, BUT as I pointed out, we had worse times than now.

Agreeing with Belphegor here. While there might be issues with Lightning Sorc in rated areas, they are fine enough in regs. I have been playing this game since start as main Sage in PvP. We had times of better DMG output and usefullness, but less fun. Remember the melee-train? That Jugg that would hunt you through the warzone... oh no, the two Juggs+the 2 Maras. 3 PTs in every second WZ and you just can't really kite them, while you can properly LoS snipers and mercs nowadays. Even though we might be easy to kill, I feel less picked on and denied of my casts than in some times in the far past. Playing Sage imo has seen more frustrating times than now. Maybe that is cause people don't only see the easy kill, but also the threat and we don't look like one at the moment. We are still great to defend nodes, make good dmg and have a lot of useful tools: e.g. pull in huttball and with the utility as a quick help for somebody under focus. All the funny slows and root stuff, not to mention the bubble or bubble-stun. All the kiting and hide behind stuff in alderaan mid zerg, whirling out the right healer at the right moment, hard stun with dmg reduction afterwards, bubble stun in a pile of healers, while pressure is high. If a mediocre player like me can have great fun in PvP, still be upper 20% in dmg output (without spamming AoE that is), not to mention offheals, playing this class as many would say "it should not be played" (I dont just stand in the backline, casting stuff, I usually sneak around on the level of enemy healers, cause enemy melee DDs suddenly start ignoring you there, using hard stuns, bubble and whirlwind on enemy healers), then it can't be that useless. So no, it's not the death of lightning sorc... it's a phase and it's not even as frustrating as other phases have been. Never say die!

Gehirndienst. Hm, meine Leben ist um einen Term reicher! Wer oder was der Rest da ist... ***. O____O

What is this? Politics? We are talking about the person now and not the arguments? Shut up! This thread isn't about icykill, it is about a certain behaviour on the forums, picking icykill as an example. "More icykill-like behaviour on the forums and we'd be better off, who agrees and who doesn't."

Nice, war aber bestimmt kacklangweilig? ;P

Kommandosystem ist definitiv das größere Problem. Kaum Motivation zu twinken, viele Leute weg. Mein Main ist Tier 1. -___-' Klassen im Stack waren schon immer Mist und das Einzige, was man vom Balancing ernsthaft erhoffen kann ist, dass es irgendeine Spielweise zulässt, die im 4 vs 4 Team-Rated Spaß macht. Im 8er von Balance zu reden, bringt nix. Es gibt immer die Trollklassen, die für's Objective besser sind, die Klassen mit DefCDs, die im richtigen Moment alles versauen und die Klassen mit krassem Burst, die man immer dann merkt, wenn es mehr als einer ist und am Besten noch mit Premade. Ist gerade Melee-unfreundlich?! Hajo, Smash-Train und Imba-Jugger waren auch nicht schön. Es wird sich wieder ändern. Wie gesagt: Im Forum über Klassenbalance zu philosophieren bringt nix. Leute suchen, Gruppe bilden. Man steht länger, kann mehr machen, mehr ausprobieren, nen Blumentopf durch verschieben gewinnen. Alles andere wird sich nie ändern! Wenn es auch mit Gruppe keinen Spaß macht, ist es eventuell nicht nur das Class-Balancing, was gerade die Laune raubt.

Is schon hart. Aber hart war's für viele Klassen phasenweise schon immer, jetzt sind's halt andere. Im Forum zu posten ist da die sinnloseste Reaktion. BW ist das egal und Leute anzuschwärzen für was sie spielen geht immer solang gut, bis der eigne Main grad mal wieder zufällig das neue Faceroll wird. Entweder man kommt zurecht oder macht paar Monate Pause. In dem Sinne: Alles ****** außer Mutti. Wer ist die Mutti? Dado ist die Mutti! Game on!

Nice, da weint man fast vor Nostalgie. Leider bisher noch nicht geschafft mitzumachen... :X

Haha, yeah, even though it's sad the old EU practically died and we are not going to hear stories of some awesome characters ever again, I somehow enjoy how some new era SW characters are based on stories we already had. It's quite interesting to dig a little into old EU stories about who stole the death star plans and under which conditions it happened. You'll find names like "Jan Ors" and some story of "everybody dies to achieve the goal" about some ex-girlfriend of Han Solo. Hey, we had the whole ending of that movie layed out before us already. ;-P About Revan: In my little mind, Revan was redeemed, had his mind and memory back in place and still decided to be a Jedi, not a lunatic. He left to stop the dark empire, that he learned about from Mandalore, when he killed him at Malachor to protect his child and the whole freaking universe. I always imagined and hoped for a Kotor III where you play a Jedi or other character, following the path of Revan and later The Exile, finding out about their noble sacrifice, which delayed the attack of the empire by 300 years. Whatever this could have been. Finding another Rakata machine, blowing up a sun, blocking some hyperspace route, so a new had to be found over a vaaast amount of time. Imagine an ending, where they stand in some big *** station, watching how the star is going to go boom, eradicating them - and both old friends (Exile and Revan) looking at each other, smiling, dying as the Jedi they truly are. Alone in the dark, probably never anybody learning about what they did. The total opposite of Revan's key mistake that made him fall. My Revan fell over his ego, trying to protect the galaxy on his own, by his own power, seizing control over everything and step by step falling to the dark side, twisted by the Star Forge. In my book it never required an emperor to twist him. Only very good moment about SWTOR Revan imo were his words refering to what Malak said at his end on the star forge, when you "kill" Revan in that factory. :'-) But well, I am a fan of romantic adventure stories. The whole new ultimate torture madness SW-story stuff, including the Revan book and his SWTOR part is not for me. ;-P

Nice, mal schaun ob ich Zeit finde. Transen wäre kein Problem.

Na früher hat das ja auch funktioniert!!!1!!!1!11 Zumindest Mandos sind ständig im Boden verschwunden. -___-'

Gleich hackt dich der Hahn: http://cdn3.spiegel.de/images/image-913356-breitwandaufmacher-fsnd-913356.jpg

Indeed, Dantooine would rock. And pls not as small as Manaan. ^^ But I fear stuff like that won't happen. I had high hopes some years ago, but the direction the game has taken, doesn't seem to imply, that we will get a major planet ever again and surely not one based on/caused by Kotor nostalgia. :-/ I guess for next holidays I should plan a full Kotor I run, followed by a Kotor II+Restored Content Mod one. The only Kotor reference I didn't really like, was the biggest possible reference... Revan himself. :-X There was so much more potential to make this more emotional. Imagine a scene of Revan visiting Bastilas grave after realising how wrong he was (again -___-'). He didn't even show the slightest interest in his heritage. What was my (Revan's) whole redemption story for, if he returns as a blinded lunatic repeating all his mistakes again 300 years later? Kinda killed what I believed to be the character that I played.

No specific easter eggs, but Taris as a whole is a master piece of sadness for me. The holo logs of those people. :'-( Wonderful!

Word. Machtbeben liegt bei mir auf soner hässlichen Tastenkombi, ich komme gar nicht auf die Idee das zu spammen. Mal ganz abgesehen von der Langeweile. Laggt noch jemand zur Zeit vermehrt? War heute total unlustig.