Yes you right it is about swimmer skills and genetics, but not about his gear. have you ever seen that swimmers work hard for months to get better trousers, and after getting them the magic happens the can swim 15% faster. If you want to play better improve your skills, your reaction, rotation. Getting bigger damage numbers and survivability playing the same way it is not the way PvP will go.

I think that all people inside the same warzone playing the same class deserve the same gear. No one deserve any kind of unfair advantage like doing more damage or have better defense just because he\she do daily pvp quests every day regularly or just play longer on one character.

No, ranked in this game is definitely not where equally geared people meat each other. I can create two team one full WH and another full recruit and they will face each other and not a fact that team with better team play and skill wins, cause WH guys have huge and unfair advantage.

Not all SWTOR players have access to the same gear, if it was like that I wouldn't create this topic. Just enter any warzone and you will see some players have WH gear and other recruit and BM. People play in professional football league not because of better gear but because of their skills. If you think what people play football for year to get better boots and another 3 years to get even better boots then good luck:) I do not need custom boots cause I am not a footballers, but if I needed i could go into sport shop and buy them and I am sure they won't be worse than boots professional footballers have it just a matter of price even the best boots doesn't cost a lot.

Never seen a competition between Karts and F1 in one track.

It is not fun. I want fair competition. I do not need gear advantage over players in recruit gear. It is just bad players who need it.

Ha-ha it is a joke. Ronaldo was a great player cause he was wearing Nike:) There is no actual difference in football boots on champions league and some kind of not professional players, all football players have access to the same boots, You can go to any sport market and buy then and believe me you don't need to play football for two years to get better boots. But in this game you have to play for months to get unfair advantage of better gear and difference between recruit gear and WH is significant.

F1 is not an Olympic sport. It is actually a competition for car companies. In this game only one company provides gear. Just imagine a situation if in F1 will be only one company making cars and it gives new better models to some racers and slow models to another racers based on how long racer work for a team. Old racers would have new fast cars but new racers have an old crap.

Again there are standards on sport equipment. Boots doesn't matter a lot, the same for swimming suits. You know wearing different swimming suits won't give you 2x speed boost. But WH gear comparing to recruit gives 2x more damage. You really think what some teams are better in swimming because they have better swimming suits?

Leveling and gear grinding is boring. PvP is player versus player not player versus gear or player versus level. There is no competitive PvP in this game now. Bioware has the chance to fix it or people leave, they currently lost hundred thousands of subscribers and will loose more. Guil Wars 2 is great game it has typical MMO mechanics which I enjoy but it offers PvP on competitive basis, Of course people move from SWTOR to GW2, You see SWTOR is going F2P right after GW2 will go release. In this topic I give to Bioware some customer feedback concerning to PvP, we need fair and competitive PvP, people do not want to play PvP in discriminated format were gear matters and gives unfair advantages.

Yes, this is how this game should be.

Forcing people to play pve to have better gear in pvp is the worst thing to do. My proposal is to change damage calculation for PvP the way that gear stats won't affect it. You can wear any gear, pve gear, raid gear, green gear it doesn't matted but your damage on another player would be the same.

Yes I bother gear grind and leveling. I want to play all classes in rated on competitive level without need to level them and grind WH gear to be competitive. Yes I want to play class in rated depending on my mood. Currently we have a discrimination based on gear and I am seriously upset what many people support this discrimination. What is the point at PvP at all if one player of the same class and build can kill another in 4 shot whilst second player need to do 8 shots for the same result. It is RACISM, stop it.

You can have trainers, friends doctors or anything you like but when athletes goes into competition they have equal equipment. In football they have same boots, in box they have the same gloves. There are standards on sport equipment if you don't meet them you will never be qualified, if you deliberately violate standard on sport equipment you 'll be disqualified. Let's say one boxer put a piece of metal inside his gloves to give advantage over other boxers, it's a typical example of cheating. So you support cheating, right?

I think we have some slight misunderstanding. I am talking about the same stats for all players of the same class. I mean all sorc and sages can have the same stats in PvP but guards have its own stat set.

After looking at London Olympics games, there fair play dominate, I started to think why we cannot have fair play in SWTOR PvP. SWTOR PvP is currently discrimination based on gear, gear give some players ridiculous handicap whilst others players has serious disadvantage. All players need the same stats in PvP, it should be no unfair advantage even for 1% more dmg or healing. We need gear stats does not affect player vs player performance. No matter what gear you have damage and healing in player vs player combat should be calculated on static coefficients without taking gear stats. Gear stats can affect pve only, but as soon player involves into pvp combat in open world or warzones damage need to be calculated without taking gear into an account. Another major improvement we need is improvement of bolster system. Any player entered warzone at level below 50 should automatically increase its level to 50 with all class abilities available. We need the same queue poll for all levels from level 10 to level 50 where all player of the same class no matter of level has ABSOLUTELY the same HP, damage and healing with no discrimination based on level and gear. Actually BW has a choice move this game forward and make it as a standart for e-sports or loose all its PvP population to Guild Wars 2 and other games where people compete on fair basis.

Yes you hit the right point. It is really good what one company did an MMo without grind there you can enjoy PvP on competitive basis

Class balance changes after each patch, if you have a time to reroll the new FOTM after patch and gear it you can get big advantage in PvP. It is ok if you have a lot of time no job , no school. But if you play occasionally and like to play different classes have alts you will have always gear disadvantage. I like the idea OF GW 2 where you can create instantly a PvP character and got max level all abilities and gear does not affect battlegrounds at all. You want play another char , just create a new one in 5 minutes and join battleground with your friends. This is very fun and team coordination matters. If you enjoy grinding gear and levels just to play warzones on competitive level, good luck:)

Yes they can. Give a bad player an OP class and gear advantage and job is done.

PvP currently is in broken state. Gear and class imbalances, so people leaving a game. Let's look at obvious situation you just hit 50 as a sorc or sage and want to start playing rated, your skills are fine. Not a chance you'll be invited in any descent team, you need gear and good class. Re-rolling another class will take 2-3 weeks and gearing it takes one month. So to be competitive in PvP you have to spend 1.5 months, who need that crap? Until they remove all gear dependency from pvp this game will never have a chance to be half descent e-sport.

Guards are not good 1v1 no matter of spec. Currently the best 1v1 are marauders and operatives. Kinetic shadows are probably the third best 1v1 class.

Yes very bad:)

I like the animations of sage and always played mages in MMO. But the current state of sage in pvp is so horrible. It is better to reroll something else.

The main problem with sorc is that it dies too fast. If you fight against a competent team you will always play without sorc, cause your sorc will be always in respad. Healing and guarding sorc is useless it dies anyway. I played several matches as a healer and realised healing sages is just waist of time. In rated warzones people use sound if one see sorc everyone focus on it.

This is what i am currently enjoying. First i rolled mara because people told it was OP, but later after playing a lot I realised that best OP classes for rated are PT?VG and OP healer. You can add two tanks for ball carrying but it is not essential cause 4-6 PT/VG kill everything they see and two OP healers make them immortal. If not Hutball where you need to carry balls, i would roll a team of 5 PT and 3 OP healers.