Operatives/Scoundrels got nerfed becouse their damage was scaring people and it was an underplayed class (eventhough that burst/stun on their opener was the only thing they really had) Inquisitors/Consulars on the other hand are everywhere and if i had to guess id say about 80% of the population plays these 2 classes so i doubt they will ever get nerfed.

Last time i checked there isnt any world pvp left to kill in this game.

Stat padding is garbage and it shouldve never made it past the early alpha stages of the game. They should just remove the whole thing and give us simple brackets.

As things stand the pvp in this game is as barebones as it gets so im open for any kind of suggestions. But i do think that if they ever introduce some kind of arena there should be some incentive to actually win apart from a leaderboard spot (mounts? spectating and betting on teams?).

The thing that bothers me in WZs nowadays is with my 35 operative/41 marauder i actually hit people around lvl 15 for less then i do other lvl 40+ players. I dont know how this bolster system works but it feels like whenever you go up against lower levels youre damage/crit chance actually gets gimped.

You had my attention untill the part where you stated that shadow/assassins have better survivability which is nonsense.

Yeah, mashing 2 buttons from the other side of the map is hard yo!

At least you have a force leap. And i red youre other posts where you claim Operatives/scoundrels are capable of stunlocking twice in a row which is impossible and shows how little you know about the actual class. Go back to youre hole scrub.

I still say that the masses who always seem to get the last laugh in these MMOs are ALWAYS WRONG. I play an Operative and just reading though these comments with people screaming things like ''they open up on me with 13k and i die'' or ''they stun me 3 times in a row'' just makes me cringe. It shows how little you people actually know about the class. ''The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence''

Cant wait for some forum-bound armory system to get implemented in the near future so that 99% of you scrubs will be exposed for the scrubs you are. But no worries, im sure youll still be rage quitting as often as ever regardlkess of these nerfs.

I wouldnt mind them being more expensive if they actually raised the cap for war/merc commendations. As if a guy farming some points while lvling will be sooooo gamebreaking -_-.

All we have are these tiny WZ mini-games and Ilum (open-world is dead). The things they have to do in order to get a real pvp community going are too great and will take too long. Dont forget that Bioware already confirmed that their future plans for pvp in this game are ''more WZs''. So yeah, my advice would be enjoy youre time then just move on just as i will do soon enough.

Its not Biowares fault that 90% of the Republic players are horrible pvpers. Thats right, its not the sheer size of Empire player that wins these matches, its the simple fact that the average Empire player is better. I know im very harsh but this is exactly how things are right now. And its definitly not just a ''newb'' thing either, majority of Rep players just dont seem to care about pvp at all.

Crappy optimization + free engine = SWTOR. Ive got a new pc just for this and BF3 and although BF3 looks beast in SWTOR on average i get around 25 fps in WZs lol. i7-3930K (ocd to 4.1) 16gigs ddr3 ram gtx 590

Rerolled an Operative a few days ago lol. I still have 2 more months of playtime on my hands before ill have to resubscribe so if by then the PvP wont get any major changes im definitly out.

Lets see............... Sorcerers are op Sages are op Scoundrels are op Operatives are op Mercenaries are op Lets me guess, by the end of this month people will be whining about Juggernauts and their imba defensive ability that makes them immortal for a short period of time (Invincible?).

You have to keep in mind that here even Warriors can stealth. I mean, in this game 7 out of 8 ad classes have sap/stun/knockback/dots etc.

As you mentioned yourself Bioware is nerfing stim stacking so bye bye to those 9k crits. But lets be honest here, the crying wont stop. Im sure after this patch people will jump back on the ''nerf sorcerers/sages'' bandwagon again.

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Statistics show 60% of the blacks in US have a criminal record. Does that mean we should start ignoring them as well?? Also, do keep in mind that Blizzard made Arenas absolete so its only natural that people stop participating.

So what about melee classes? As a JShadow after a knockback by the time i get on target to inturrupt or put out some damage im already on 50%. I wont even start on ability delay in WZs. /working as intended indeed

Im giving SWTOR another month. Thats more then enough time for Bioware to show which direction they want this game to go in. If they wont bother fixing simple things like animations interfering with abilitys, lagg, ranged constantly shooting through walls etc etc and instead focus on more WZs/more Quests ill definitly go back to WoW.

Yes, we do queue up just to roflstomp you skiddies. Its not like there is anything else to do here as a PvPer beyond lvl 50.

Fail troll, is fail.