Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I'm writing this because i truly care about Bioware and i want to see them make good game. But I have cancelled my subscription, mainly because EA supports the SOPA bill, but that's a different story. This game have MAJOR, crippling design flaws. Two of such stand out Illum has no incentive to kill other players, you can basically just sit in one area and get champion gear. This never should have left beta in this condition because if Bioware DOESN'T fix this, Ilum will be a ghost town, if they DO fix it, there will be thousands of people will great gear, while new comers will get face rolled. But the biggest failure, by far, is Carrick Station. There is litterally no rationalization for putting ALL flashpoints and operations in one area. Bioware... You have 20+ planets, in an interview you said you wanted 500 within 10 years. WHY would you give us absolutely no incentive to visit them again? We don't need to go there for flashpoints because they're all on the station, we don't need to go there for crafting materials because we can just send our companions And finally. Operations. Cleared in one night. Not much more to say, needs to be addressed Bioware needs to change their design philosophy fast. Story and voice over is great, but it won't carry an MMO for 10 years Edited December 31, 2011 by Blackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrl Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 EA supports the SOPA bill A reason to not buy or subscribe to their games. Sad that BW is in boat with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AislingKerrigan Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 The fact that you've already made it to 50 and cleared all the operations probably shows you need a new philosophy.. They've already said they're adding more operations with future patches. The other **** can be addressed too. Oh and lack of PvP on Ilum? There aren't that many people at 50 so who the hell do you plan to PvP with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 By the way. Your turrets are AWFUL You can only aim them horizontally and they fire by themselves? Who ever passed this as acceptable really needs to be demoted to intern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromentor Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Most of the flashpoints on the Fleet require transportation from the fleet to the flaspoint via transports for the group (it explains itself). Later on they could add flashpoints on planets, and add other stuff, too. This game recently came out. It isn't done, and probably won't be near completion for another 3+ years, just like all other large MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrl Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 A reason to not buy or subscribe to their games. Sad that BW is in boat with them. Oh this is 6 hours old # SOPA Update: Nintendo, Electronic Arts, and Sony All Drop Support For The Bill http://stickskills.com/2011/12/30/sopa-update-nintendo-electronic-arts-and-sony-all-drop-support-for-the-bill/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 The fact that you've already made it to 50 and cleared all the operations probably shows you need a new philosophy.. Really wasn't that hard. I got to 50 in closed beta so i skipped the dialog. REALLY didn't expect to clear the ENTIRE operation in one night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbanite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) A reason to not buy or subscribe to their games. Sad that BW is in boat with them. EA apparently have pulled their support for SOPA http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/12/30/nintendo-electronic-arts-and-sony-drop-support-for-sopa/ Edited December 31, 2011 by corbanite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 This game recently came out. It isn't done, and probably won't be near completion for another 3+ years, just like all other large MMOs. That isn't an ample excuse any more. Bioware can't afford to have the biggest MMO release in history, with the largest budget and have so little to show for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba_Jett Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 My reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 EA apparently have pulled their support for SOPA http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/12/30/nintendo-electronic-arts-and-sony-drop-support-for-sopa/ The fact that they supported a bill that would end the only system in the world that will help us over throw a corrupt system in the first place, WITHOUT even finding out what it is about, is the reason i will no longer support EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisslanza Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 That isn't an ample excuse any more. Bioware can't afford to have the biggest MMO release in history, with the largest budget and have so little to show for it But it is. For an MMO to launch with "enough" content as you put it, you'll end up with Duke Nukem: Forever. That is to say the game gets delayed endlessly because everytime it's near "ready", something new comes along and they have to keep adding things, or re-doing something... MMOs are designed to work like this. They launch barebones, and they go from there. The only exception to this rule, is when popular KR/JP/China MMOs get a NA release. The only reason they are above the rule is because they're been out for years already, so it kind of bypasses that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) But it is. For an MMO to launch with "enough" content as you put it, you'll end up with Duke Nukem: Forever. That is to say the game gets delayed endlessly because everytime it's near "ready", something new comes along and they have to keep adding things, or re-doing something... MMOs are designed to work like this. They launch barebones, and they go from there. The only exception to this rule, is when popular KR/JP/China MMOs get a NA release. The only reason they are above the rule is because they're been out for years already, so it kind of bypasses that. If Bioware REALLY wanted to do something smart, they would have had 20 levels of class story and voice over, and then put the rest of funding into end game. WHY does it supposedly take 200 hours to get to level 50, but it takes one night to clear all the end game content? Let me make this painfully clear. Bioware DOES NOT HAVE THE LUXURY of waiting 2 years after release to have good end game. YOU might be willing to wait that long for solid end game, but i guarantee the other million people don't Edited December 31, 2011 by Blackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pu_nani Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 My reply That's sad indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulduet Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Blizzard, pandas, the second i heard about that i knew it was over. Haven't played WoW for almost a year now. Cataclysm was okay at first, i was probably more hyped than anything else. The only thing i miss from WoW is the LFD(and probably LFR). LFD just took WoW up to a whole new level. Gave a chance to actually play from level 15-85 just by running dungeons, epicness. I loved it. It sure in hell wouldn't be possible before the LFD that i know for a fact. Kinda reminds me of swtor right now, you have to sit in general chat inviting people to even do a dungeon... /ugh. Good luck doing it non-prime time. It's a mess and can easily take an hour or more. Worst part is that you can't leave the fleet while you're looking for people or the chances of finding more players drops to rock bottom. I tried do it the same way i do it in lotro by contact people at appropriate level ranges but maybe 1 player out of 20-30 every responds to a whisper in the game. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Blizzard, pandas, the second i heard about that i knew it was over. Haven't played WoW for almost a year now. Cataclysm was okay at first, i was probably more hyped than anything else. The only thing i miss from WoW is the LFD(and probably LFR). LFD just took WoW up to a whole new level. Gave a chance to actually play from level 15-85 just by running dungeons, epicness. I loved it. It sure in hell wouldn't be possible before the LFD that i know for a fact. Kinda reminds me of swtor right now, you have to sit in general chat inviting people to even do a dungeon... /ugh. Good luck doing it non-prime time. It's a mess and can easily take an hour or more. Worst part is that you can't leave the fleet while you're looking for people or the chances of finding more players drops to rock bottom. I tried do it the same way i do it in lotro by contact people at appropriate level ranges but maybe 1 player out of 20-30 every responds to a whisper in the game. Go figure. Thats a GREAT point. Not only is there no reason to leave the station, it's actually HARMFUL if you do. Oh god, is Carrick station the Kirkwall of SWTOR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtrick Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) Thats a GREAT point. Not only is there no reason to leave the station, it's actually HARMFUL if you do. Oh god, is Carrick station the Kirkwall of SWTOR? Oh, bull. If you're not in the station, you're running around in shouting range of a whole lot of people around your level who may want to run the same flashpoints you do, but would rather be out playing than sitting around. Talk to people. Let them know you'd like a group. Use the LFG flag. You don't need to be an immobile lump in Carrick Station to run flashpoints, and that's one of the reasons I'm glad there's no LFD tool. It promotes behavior like that. Why not just get out and play the game? Edited December 31, 2011 by imtrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 you're running around in shouting range of a whole lot of people around your level who may want to run the same flashpoints you do. ....What?... Who DOES this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtrick Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 ....What?... Who DOES this? I have no idea what you're trying to say, but if it's that there's nobody outside the station... well, never mind. I have no clue what you're trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 You don't need to be an immobile lump in Carrick Station to run flashpoints, and that's one of the reasons I'm glad there's no LFD tool. It promotes behavior like that. Why not just get out and play the game? Because there is no REASON to get out and play the game. Bioware gave us no incentive to go back to all the great planets like Hoth or Bel Savis... I remember i got the Eternity Vault quest, and it said "Go to the Bel Savis depths" and i was like "Oh cool! I get to go back to Bel Savis and explore some things i might have missed!" WRONG I had to run down the ramp of the ship into instance. This is a DEVASTATING design flaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 If Bioware REALLY wanted to do something smart, they would have had 20 levels of class story and voice over, and then put the rest of funding into end game. WHY does it supposedly take 200 hours to get to level 50, but it takes one night to clear all the end game content? Let me make this painfully clear. Bioware DOES NOT HAVE THE LUXURY of waiting 2 years after release to have good end game. YOU might be willing to wait that long for solid end game, but i guarantee the other million people don't Yeah, they're going to wait two years to add more end game.... Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtrick Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Because there is no REASON to get out and play the game. Bioware gave us no incentive to go back to all the great planets like Hoth or Bel Savis... I remember i got the Eternity Vault quest, and it said "Go to the Bel Savis depths" and i was like "Oh cool! I get to go back to Bel Savis and explore some things i might have missed!" WRONG I had to run down the ramp of the ship into instance. This is a DEVASTATING design flaw I'm not saying to go back; I'm saying to find groups while you're there the first time. Wherever you are, there are going to be people near your level; there's no need to go back to somewhere you've already been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJediKnight Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Christ SOPA is scary. If it passes, I think I may be at war with the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremk Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Bioware needs to address 1 thing. Launching an MMO and then going on holiday break for 2 weeks. Whoever thought of the launch date as a good idea should be given the idiot award for 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) I'm not saying to go back; I'm saying to find groups while you're there the first time. Wherever you are, there are going to be people near your level; there's no need to go back to somewhere you've already been. Uh, ok. So what if i want to do level 50 Flash Points. Where are all the level 50s? RIGHT... Carrick Station And where are the flash points located? CARRICK STATION! Edited December 31, 2011 by Blackwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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