Sinister-Sith Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Read what users had to say about the WoW launch here... http://vnboards.ign.com/world_of_warcraft_general_board/b19789/107608654/p1 Just continue reading, and you will find that WoW had a great NUMBER of issues post-launch. Also to further reinforce my statement regarding the log in issues... http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=93823 I am not worried, nor do I fear about TOR's fate. As you can see, the website in itself is irrelevant to both games, but the post is about WoW's launch... so, you can see that I'm not the only one who experienced that issue at launch. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wish everybody realized most mmos have had worse launches. WAY worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister-Sith Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wish everybody realized most mmos have had worse launches. WAY worse. I was posting in another thread, bringing up points and logic, when all of a sudden I was bashed, called "delusional", "uneducated", "stupid", etc. *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsleep Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yeah, WoW was one of the worst launches I've ever participated in. That game was so bad I cancelled in the first month and didn't go back till 2 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisamcnicholas Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 get ready for "BUT IT'S 2011 EVERYTHING SHOULD BE PERFECT" posts. I agree that the launch was amazing and the few bugs are very obviously being worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merex Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Wait, this is 2011, right? Where we have vastly improved server technology, right? Also, TOR has a ridiculous amount of instancing which spreads the stress across multiple servers, and is far less seamless than WoW, right? SWTOR has a lot more mechanics of the game that gives them a huge advantage for a launch. WoW was far more ambitious from a server stress level at launch. TOR has instancing out the ***. Edited December 29, 2011 by Merex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurentiusX Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 By comparison this launch was really smooth, now granted I wasn't in a guild before starting so on the server I choose I only had to wait in a queue 10min during the actual launch day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTom Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Oh yes, I remember WoW launch. Bugged boats that would drop everyone into deep-water which would drown you. Eventually they brought back Captain PlaceHolder from beta until they fixed the boats: http://www.wowwiki.com/Captain_Placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisamcnicholas Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wait, this is 2011, right? Where we have vastly improved server technology, right? Also, TOR has a ridiculous amount of instancing which spreads the stress across multiple servers, and is far less seamless than WoW, right? SWTOR has a lot more mechanics of the game that gives them a huge advantage for a launch. WoW was far more ambitious from a server stress level at launch. TOR has instancing out the ***. I'm a prophet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamajawn Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) I was a player in the WoW launch. TOR launch has been smoother, as has been said many times here. From my perspective, it was rather easy to level in WoW after launch. I made level 60 in a fairly short time playing casually. At cap, there wasn't much to do except roll another character. It was then that I found out what all the other level 60s were doing for endgame content... ganking lowbies. I couldn't go anywhere or do anything much with my alt without being massacred several times a night by roaming bands of 15 year old corpse campers. What a total bore. Yeah, those were the days. I know WoW got better, but I quit then and never went back. Edited December 29, 2011 by Bamajawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookus Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I was posting in another thread, bringing up points and logic, when all of a sudden I was bashed, called "delusional", "uneducated", "stupid", etc. *facepalm* By and large, you'll find that those people have join dates of Dec. 2011, and will go curiously silent come January 20th. I initially joked about it, but I am honestly starting to suspect that a significant chunk of these people are part of an organized advertising campaign on the part of Blizzard/Vivendi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakumene Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 This game has no issues compared to Batman Arkham City. Thing still runs like trash on the best computer set ups (if you can get it to run) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wait, this is 2011, right? Where we have vastly improved server technology, right? Also, TOR has a ridiculous amount of instancing which spreads the stress across multiple servers, and is far less seamless than WoW, right? SWTOR has a lot more mechanics of the game that gives them a huge advantage for a launch. WoW was far more ambitious from a server stress level at launch. TOR has instancing out the ***. yeah on the home worlds..... lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Here are some charts that show numbers of subscriptions and active accounts in MMO's since they launched: Over 1 million: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png Over 150K to 1 million: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png Under 150K: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-3.png It doesn't take a genius to follow the spikes and curves. Now, guess which games bowed down to the player base. And see how and when the numbers changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister-Sith Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wait, this is 2011, right? Where we have vastly improved server technology, right? Also, TOR has a ridiculous amount of instancing which spreads the stress across multiple servers, and is far less seamless than WoW, right? SWTOR has a lot more mechanics of the game that gives them a huge advantage for a launch. WoW was far more ambitious from a server stress level at launch. TOR has instancing out the ***. They were trying to deviate away from every other MMO, and have so far succeeded, in my honest opinion. Note: There will ALWAYS be issues at launch; always. Even in 2300 I am sure they will have video game launch issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merex Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'm a prophet. Yes you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wait, this is 2011, right? Where we have vastly improved server technology, right? Also, TOR has a ridiculous amount of instancing which spreads the stress across multiple servers, and is far less seamless than WoW, right? SWTOR has a lot more mechanics of the game that gives them a huge advantage for a launch. WoW was far more ambitious from a server stress level at launch. TOR has instancing out the ***. lol Plus i'd rather have instancing in the beginning than having too many people flying around bogging the server down. It's simple really. Makes sense. What's the big deal about instancing anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzik Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Most threads I see aren't complaining about swtor having a bad launch, they're just complaining about the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister-Sith Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Here are some charts that show numbers of subscriptions and active accounts in MMO's since they launched: Over 1 million: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png Over 150K to 1 million: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png Under 150K: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-3.png It doesn't take a genius to follow the spikes and curves. Now, guess which games bowed down to the player base. And see how and when the numbers changed. Wasn't there a million people playing this game on day one? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merex Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Most threads I see aren't complaining about swtor having a bad launch, they're just complaining about the game itself. This is also true. The launch wasn't that bad. Queues were horrible but are now not that bad. The game itself is in far worse shape than the launch it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister-Sith Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 This is also true. The launch wasn't that bad. Queues were horrible but are now not that bad. The game itself is in far worse shape than the launch it had. Hence why this thread says "post-launch issues"... *facepalm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Most threads I see aren't complaining about swtor having a bad launch, they're just complaining about the game itself. Actually, they're bellyaching for a few reasons: Feature implementation being the biggest and divided into subsets: *LFG Tool *Dual Spec *PVP Tiers These mean nothing and can go on the back burner. More serious issues are the ones about Radeon cards running like crap and other video lag issues associated with certain zones. I personally haven't experienced them, but I built a deathbox to crush TOR under it's heels and so far, it's doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraxture Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 They were trying to deviate away from every other MMO, and have so far succeeded, in my honest opinion. Note: There will ALWAYS be issues at launch; always. Even in 2300 I am sure they will have video game launch issues. That's because perfection is just a word, not a state that can be achieved by anyone or anything. What counts is the willingness of the team that developed it. This is the holiday season, and just like us. They are human, and require time with their families and loved ones. Who appreciate them a hell of a lot more than the crowd here on these forums. All MMOs have bumps in the road, and those bumps take time to address, to prioritize, and then to solve. If you lack the patience to weather through these changes, then it would be in those users best interest to find their game-on elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 That's because perfection is just a word, not a state that can be achieved by anyone or anything. What counts is the willingness of the team that developed it. This is the holiday season, and just like us. They are human, and require time with their families and loved ones. Who appreciate them a hell of a lot more than the crowd here on these forums. All MMOs have bumps in the road, and those bumps take time to address, to prioritize, and then to solve. If you lack the patience to weather through these changes, then it would be in those users best interest to find their game-on elsewhere. Careful with that kind of talk, the masses foaming at the mouth with nerdrage and opinions will attack you for such logic and understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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