PorsaLindahl Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) I propose a roll back of 5.8 or disabling of the conquest system until this pile of garbage update can be fixed. Edit: I doubt BW cares much about my household's $30 per month, but that's $30 less than they'll be getting in the future. ~Subs end on 3/25/18 and won't be renewed without a fix to this. Edited March 21, 2018 by PorsaLindahl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 +1 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThadiusMoor Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) /signed #ROLL-BACK-THE-TRASH-CAN-MAN Edited March 21, 2018 by ThadiusMoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just to show that I wasn't joking around about my sub. Cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith-Viscera Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 For those that do not do Conquests, can you enlighten us on whats wrong, If you would please? So we have a further understanding of the issue. Thank you and take care & Be well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 For those that do not do Conquests, can you enlighten us on whats wrong, If you would please? So we have a further understanding of the issue. Thank you and take care & Be well.... Take a stroll through this thread, or several of the others. If you don't know what's going on, then you're not reading the dozens of threads already out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThadiusMoor Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Here is my first impression and reaction, itemized through all the changes I am seeing.... Read my reply on that thread lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 For those that do not do Conquests, can you enlighten us on whats wrong, If you would please? So we have a further understanding of the issue. Thank you and take care & Be well.... There are serious bugs in how it awards meeting goals ("Oh look, you killed a minor grunt-droid on CZ-198, we'll award you 5K points each for defeating two major bosses on Ilum", but also "Oh look, you crafted a conquest object, we won't give you any points for it even though there's an objective that says to do it"), bad levels of awards for certain activities, unclear goals, weirdness in the interface, and substantial ninja changes to how Invasion Force ingredients are crafted. Oh, and yet another alert I'm not going to do on ANY of my characters. None of them wants to snog Arcann. Hmm, perhaps, ... no, not even her. So nothing much, other than Conquest having been replaced with something almost, but not quite totally unlike Conquest, but still called Conquest, and the new thing doesn't work properly. Yeah, nothing much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunav Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Disable Conquest until it is fixed to resemble what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowGovernator Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Roll-back 5.8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exfell Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 /signed Disabling conquest untill it can be restored to old (including crafting changes) or very thoroughly revamped/redesigned will be enough. We can keep the ops boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Did they ever do a rollback on anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderPaco Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Another suggestion: hit up their Twitter account if you have Twitter. Airing out dirty laundry in public is sometimes the only way some folks understand. Then again, it might not matter; however, I would think every little bit helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderPaco Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Did they ever do a rollback on anything? Rollback, I don't think they have. Making changes, sure. Just look at SW Battlefront 2...they're canning the whole loot crate system finally after enough uproar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowGovernator Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Did they ever do a rollback on anything? Yes indeed on 5.8 - if they have one braincell left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelious Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) There won't be a rollback. Bioware will handle this in their usual manner: - 90% of bad feedback will simply be ignored -10% remaining bad feedback will get answers that are mostly PR lies or do not make any logical sense - Those few posts that are positive will receive answers along the lines of "thank you" and "you are welcome" - Emergency patch on Thuesday will fix bugs with Gree Worldbosses, and make sure Biochem has same crafting receipts as other crew skills - Very, very slowly Bioware wil make their new system look more like their old system, all the while pretending they are listening to us and that those changes are new and exciting and totally original and not just return to what was before. Edited March 21, 2018 by Gelious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasStarWars Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Roll-back. But If it's too late because of the Ops groups doing Izax, disable conquest until you get a nice fix and return to us what is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Another suggestion: hit up their Twitter account if you have Twitter. Airing out dirty laundry in public is sometimes the only way some folks understand. Then again, it might not matter; however, I would think every little bit helps. The SWTOR management and devs are immune to criticism on any platform and do what they want even if it loses them sub money. also another +1 for a Conquest Rollback to pre 5.8 (wth were they thinking with this)? Edited March 21, 2018 by Sarova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlaVii Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) A rollback is unfair to everybody that has nothing to do with conquest and also to those that have already gone to efforts to earn points legitimately. Just be patient and wait until Bioware do the usual "we listened to your feedback, here are the changes" which are really the actual values they intended to use all along Don't get me wrong, I think the conquest overhaul they refused to reveal any details about until it was too late is pretty poor as you can see in my other posts. I just think a roll back that affects everybody on all servers is overkill. Edited March 21, 2018 by UlaVii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasStarWars Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) A rollback is unfair to everybody that has nothing to do with conquest and also to those that have already gone to efforts to earn points legitimately. Just be patient and wait until Bioware do the usual "we listened to your feedback, here are the changes" which are really the actual values they intended to use all along Don't get me wrong, I think the conquest overhaul they refused to reveal any details about until it was too late is pretty poor as you can see in my other posts. I just think a roll back that affects everybody on all servers is overkill. just dont include the 9k points for killing 5 random mobs as legitimate. Edited March 21, 2018 by ThomasStarWars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decicco Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercundus Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) What rollback are you talking about? Let me try predict a reaction of PR. "Rollbacks at this stage are not possible. Blah, blah, new infrastructure... Passing info to dev team to investigate..." In my opinion, this was just a huge time buying update, because now instead of focusing on upcoming content, players already want the old stuff back. Wanna bet 5.9 is going to be delayed? Again. Edited March 21, 2018 by Vercundus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lafr Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Did they ever do a rollback on anything? Yes, It was 2013 or 2014. They've messed so bad on 'Terror from developers' that no one could get any reward or craft/collect anything. And that wasn't the best part because this was issued on primetime so, if you was in a operation, you could not go ahead in any point. The rollback came 2 hours later and everyone has lost all progress, reward, itens from a couple hours earlier. This was a official one, there were some ghost rollbacks a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djake Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Yeah. This new system really sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadsamonie Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 There won't be a rollback; it would have happened already. Best thing they can do is just do a hotpatch to re-implement 5.7 while they take another crack at "balancing" 5.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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