---AlterEgo--- Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I have 3 rank 300 toons and I honestly have no energy to level any other character. The CXP event will end once 5.2 drops and it'll be a nightmare to lvl up command ranks once again. Even if they make the Unassembled Components legacy wide, those 3 toons I have at 300 will be the ones I'll be playing the most since it is absolutely disheartening to play the grind game. Not to mention, new characters will be stuck with T1 crates when the "beginning" gear from the vendor will be bumped up to Tier 2 so a new character will be stuck using gear even below the gear that'll be available for initial purchase. The game went from incredibly alt-friendly, with the 4.0 DvL event, to this grind fest which stops you from enjoying playing alts. I don't understand how they could've come up this this after encouraging us to make so many alts with 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The game went from incredibly alt-friendly, with the 4.0 DvL event, to this grind fest which stops you from enjoying playing alts. I don't understand how they could've come up this this after encouraging us to make so many alts with 4.0. I know. It's insane. 4.x: lots of incentive to roll alts, and lots of fun. A DvL alt became my new main! It was great. 5.0: CXP. Ouch! Now alts are painful to gear, but hey, with 250 bolster at least alts are fun to PvP. 5.1: Bolster nerf. BOOM, punched right in the feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foambreaker Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I have 2 toons at Command Rank 300 (sorc and scoundrel). I still don't have full 242s on any toon. Most I have on a toon is like 7 pieces of 242s rest is 240s. This gear grind is insane. They should have never gotten rid of pvp gear and moved to this endless gear grind system. It wouldn't matter for us if bolster was at max gear not 230. Putting bolster at 230 just forced all of us to grind. Except grinding PvP is not the same as some predictable AI monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbohrius Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Wrong. http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=9253709&postcount=21 Yeah, but at a later time he then said: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9255584#edit9255584 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerSchneider Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Playing with 2 mains and around 6-7 more important toons, playing a lot since 5.0. Only one rank 300 (500 or more actually), one 200+, two 100+ others tier 1. Don't have any full 242 and not even close. Edited March 23, 2017 by DerSchneider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arodtwelve Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I resubbed after a layoff, have no idea what command crates are. From what I gather it's a brutal grind for minimal rewards. Needless to say, I have unsubbed and won't be back till an easier system is put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I resubbed after a layoff, have no idea what command crates are. From what I gather it's a brutal grind for minimal rewards. Needless to say, I have unsubbed and won't be back till an easier system is put in place. They are slowly fixing it by moving back towards the old system in the most maximally painful, slow way. Which is the most frustrating part - if they would just admit they are wrong and scrap this crap, we would get to the same place much faster and everyone would be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have 1 characters at level CR300 and with about 100 crates banked. This 1 characters is currently in a mixture of 240 and 242, and it has taken so bloody long to reach this point. As such I have zero energy or time to level yet another character to 300, and I suspect this will become a problem post 5.2 when I grow tired of playing this character over and over. We desperately need UCs to be tired to legacy in order to gear ALTs post 5.2. Does anyone currently have more than 1 character at CR300? If so, how are you not utterly drained? I stopped bothering to be honest. I'm now lvling 8 alts and I've basically given up on max gearing. I'm yet to pick up anything higher than 230 and when I pick up extra 230s I either upgrade it or strip it out and put it into legacy gear and swap to an alt. Ranked is a complete farce now the toxicity on Harbinger is the absolute worst I've ever seen in this game. It's basically run by the troll squads. I'm so put off that I'll probably never bother again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 They are slowly fixing it by moving back towards the old system in the most maximally painful, slow way. Which is the most frustrating part - if they would just admit they are wrong and scrap this crap, we would get to the same place much faster and everyone would be happier. They don't know how to admit to a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 They don't know how to admit to a mistake. It's unfortunate because we will eventually end up in the same place, but they are taking the route that will burn the maximum amount of user trust. It feels like we are living through a GDC post-mortem in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoock Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It's unfortunate because we will eventually end up in the same place, but they are taking the route that will burn the maximum amount of user trust. They are so incompetent (or uncaring) that it almost seems like it's done on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Yeah, but at a later time he then said: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9255584#edit9255584 Oh **** me. Well I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'm yet to pick up anything higher than 230 You won't until after r91 to hit t2 gear for 236's (or purple 234's) and 181 for t2 gear 242's (or purple 240's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I still just play whatever character I feel like playing. If I started grinding those crates I would be gone in week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I still just play whatever character I feel like playing. If I started grinding those crates I would be gone in week. I've kind of stopped, stuck in mid-tier 2, and am having fun playing alts. The grind is just not fun and has the potential to kill the game for me for things that are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanaussie Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) Yes and no. I can't sit and grind CH 2 for endless hours. I just can't. So my IA is 160s Smuggler is 40s Jk is 30s SI is below 10 SW is below 10. The rest are not level 70 to have gc level 68 down to 30. Edited March 26, 2017 by americanaussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 You won't until after r91 to hit t2 gear for 236's (or purple 234's) and 181 for t2 gear 242's (or purple 240's) At 102 on my Sorc. Played so many games that by the time I get any 236 drops I'll have already got the armor through components. If they are going to use that system then it should be legacy bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire-breath Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 It used to be hard but with the current boost you het multiple levels per ops. Doing chapter 1 of 2 takes about 6 minutes and gives nearly 1 crate at cr300. This mixture keeps IT fun to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 It used to be hard but with the current boost you het multiple levels per ops. Doing chapter 1 of 2 takes about 6 minutes and gives nearly 1 crate at cr300. This mixture keeps IT fun to do. I don't do chapters, I only pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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