Kazz_Devlin Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Since they took away crushing darkness from deception can we get an instant clast dot to replace it? I found it help full when going up against snipers. Edited January 29, 2017 by Kazz_Devlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 You are a melee class. If you want dots you either respec Hatred or go play a Sorc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz_Devlin Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) You are a melee class. If you want dots you either respec Hatred or go play a Sorc. We had crushing darkness before and we were melee class. It was one tool used on snipers now removed, it just makes our jobs that much harder! Edited January 30, 2017 by Kazz_Devlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 We had crushing darkness before and we were melee class. It was one tool used on snipers now removed, it just makes our jobs that much harder! Yeah and you don't anymore. Times change. You don't need it, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz_Devlin Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Yeah and you don't anymore. Times change. You don't need it, get over it. So only one operative class has dots correct??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenislav Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 So only one operative class has dots correct??? You are a bit lost are you not my friend? Assassin still has DoT spec. Check this chart or whatever you call it to see which classes spec is for what (DoT, burst,etc) Its quite accurate: http://i.imgur.com/7BC9B33.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyrkverse Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 You are a bit lost are you not my friend? Assassin still has DoT spec. Check this chart or whatever you call it to see which classes spec is for what (DoT, burst,etc) Its quite accurate: http://i.imgur.com/7BC9B33.png He's not lost, he's making a case for Deception to have a dot, just like Concealment (Operatives burst spec, their dot spec is lethality) has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvai Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He's not lost, he's making a case for Deception to have a dot, just like Concealment (Operatives burst spec, their dot spec is lethality) has. Yeah, But Conc needs this dot for sustained damage. Deception doesn't. It never even was part of the rotation. It was used as a burst combo in PvP and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invertioN Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Years ago we've commented on here that they could add a short dot after using maul/shadow strike. I'm still up for it . Though the current problem is Infiltration/Deception is better than Serenity/Hated in both burst and sustained. Also, nobody cares since PvE is dead. no kappa Edited February 9, 2017 by invertioN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenislav Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yea concealment needs dot for dmg as one of its passive triggers only when there is one. I know backstab puts small dot but you cant relay on it always. Also assassins / shadows DoT was not really standard DoT that lasts for like 18 seconds. It was not instant and delt dmg upfront with SHORT duration DoT. Deception never needed that thing. It was just leftover that players used in very rare situations. On other side we shadows / sins still have DoT spec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenislav Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Years ago we've commented on here that they could add a short dot after using maul/shadow strike. I'm still up for it . Though the current problem is Infiltration/Deception is better than Serenity/Hated in both burst and sustained. Also, nobody cares since PvE is dead. no kappa I would not mind DoT like that for infiltration / deception if it actually fitted in rotation or gameplay of spec like operatives DoT does. But in the end I don't actually care. Play style for both specs fits very well. We have burst spec that is all about hard hits and we have quite fun 3 DoT spec with fluff heals. Only things that needs to be looked at is survivability / dmg for both specs. If it is good or not. You get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvai Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Also, nobody cares since PvE is dead. no kappa Only because it's dead for you doesn't mean it's dead for everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenislav Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Oh hell no. Just logged in game and realized that i don't want any long dots and especially not some that trigger randomly from attack. Low Slash is incap for 4 sec so yea NO thanks for DoT spell. Edited February 9, 2017 by Zenislav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invertioN Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Oh hell no. Just logged in game and realized that i don't want any long dots and especially not some that trigger randomly from attack. Low Slash is incap for 4 sec so yea NO thanks for DoT spell. good point it would suck for pvp but it's also not so bad because we are talking about a short dot (4.5-6s = 2-3 gcd after maul). It just means you have to be mindful of what you are doing. I'm not trying to argue for a dot. just some thoughts. It can suck in some cases. Edited February 9, 2017 by invertioN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 We don't need anything in Deception. Literally nothing. Spec is absolutely lovely as it is. The only thing bioware could do is globally nerf healing. Because it's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz_Devlin Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 good point it would suck for pvp but it's also not so bad because we are talking about a short dot (4.5-6s = 2-3 gcd after maul). It just means you have to be mindful of what you are doing. I'm not trying to argue for a dot. just some thoughts. It can suck in some cases. Yeah i'm not saying we need dot though other classes have bleeds and fire and poison and when fighting snipers it would actually be useful if we could land some dots and LOS seeing as its a huge pain to deal with snipers as is. Before I could low slash cast crushing darkness kite LOS and slowly burn them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazz_Devlin Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 We don't need anything in Deception. Literally nothing. Spec is absolutely lovely as it is. The only thing bioware could do is globally nerf healing. Because it's dumb. an ability that slowed turning so we could get behind mara's and jug's and not be forced to face tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 an ability that slowed turning so we could get behind mara's and jug's and not be forced to face tank? We can already do that fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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