Lhancelot Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Can we remove combat stealth as well? Fair is fair and all. I agree with this. I am tired of running through a wz out of combat only to get mezzed by some no-skill stealther. It takes zero skill to run around a wz mezzing people while stealthed! Stealth also grants way too many advantages in PVP combat, period. No class should ALWAYS get the initiative in PVP, and that's what stealths do! To compound the problem, all stealths also get a IN-COMBAT stealth that removes them from combat! They basically get to RESET the fight, or run away! Not fair! Why does a class need a perma-stealth ability? This is total garbage and stealths should at most be limited to a 10 sec timer stealth while out of combat and an in-combat stealth escape but NO PERMA STEALTH. A good example is how the marauder/sentinel stealth works. This is perfectly balanced and fair. Stealth is OP'd, and needs nerfed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xertasian Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I agree with this. I am tired of running through a wz out of combat only to get mezzed by some no-skill stealther. It takes zero skill to run around a wz mezzing people while stealthed! Stealth also grants way too many advantages in PVP combat, period. No class should ALWAYS get the initiative in PVP, and that's what stealths do! To compound the problem, all stealths also get a IN-COMBAT stealth that removes them from combat! They basically get to RESET the fight, or run away! Not fair! Why does a class need a perma-stealth ability? This is total garbage and stealths should at most be limited to a 10 sec timer stealth while out of combat and an in-combat stealth escape but NO PERMA STEALTH. A good example is how the marauder/sentinel stealth works. This is perfectly balanced and fair. Stealth is OP'd, and needs nerfed now! bad troll bait slap nuts..0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzologic Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Stick to advocating mercs, it's slightly more believable. Edited January 17, 2017 by nzologic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quangus Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Yes, everybody and their mother should just play mercenary now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janglor Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I agree with this. I am tired of running through a wz out of combat only to get mezzed by some no-skill stealther. It takes zero skill to run around a wz mezzing people while stealthed! Stealth also grants way too many advantages in PVP combat, period. No class should ALWAYS get the initiative in PVP, and that's what stealths do! To compound the problem, all stealths also get a IN-COMBAT stealth that removes them from combat! They basically get to RESET the fight, or run away! Not fair! Why does a class need a perma-stealth ability? This is total garbage and stealths should at most be limited to a 10 sec timer stealth while out of combat and an in-combat stealth escape but NO PERMA STEALTH. A good example is how the marauder/sentinel stealth works. This is perfectly balanced and fair. Stealth is OP'd, and needs nerfed now! You've become markedly more douchey in the last month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzastinBiberi Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Yeah, remove stealth from stealth classes and give stealth to Mercs!!! They arent OP enough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctprock Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Yeah, remove stealth from stealth classes and give stealth to Mercs!!! They arent OP enough!!! and let them stay in stealthy while they're pelting me with tracer missiles, its only fair :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rash_in Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 No. Just no. It is a class defining ability. There are more uses for them on either side of a fight in order to shape a battle. Not everything should be standing in the middle of a big room 3 feet from each other and batting at people with a shiny stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjototr Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Reroll a merc and u will not be the focus, kiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundorff Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 You are getting increasingly annoying with these pointless and humorless threads Lancel. Perhaps putting you on ignore will improve things a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaknack Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Yeah, remove stealth from stealth classes and give stealth to Mercs!!! They arent OP enough!!! And also to sorc/sage heals. And in addition the passive ability to heal in stealth. Its not enough to activate all important heal skills while they are running around like a crazy chicken. Buff sorc-heals. Edited January 17, 2017 by Opaknack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punakaali Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 You're right. Infinite stealth is bad for both PvE and PvP. 10 seconds is little low, though, 15 or 20 would be better, of course with the ten second cooldown. In PvE stealthers can just bypass most enemies without tactics, which most likely is not the intended way of playing (this would also reduce the need for always-know-where-you-are skytroopers). In PvP it is even more serious issue: Stealthers can guard objectives without anyone even knowing they are there. If the stealth was limited, these guardians would need to use their brain to know when to stealth - hope that no one will come when they're visible or hide when they see someone. It would also force attackers to be more tactical - instead of just running stealthed to a seemingly unguarded objective, they'd need to decide whether to use their stealth to run there or to confuse the guardian. In arena mode PvP, infinite stealth is useless: In the first place, people shouldn't wait to ambush the team that hasn't got any stealthers; they should go to them themselves. If both teams are fully stealthed, the first one who unstealths usually gets nuked and the team loses unless it really knows how to play. Even if the team is already losing, infinite stealth is not good. If the sole survivor just runs away invisible, it is very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenitsubasaChiyo Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Merc haters' tears are delicious. Keep them coming, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 See sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Oh the irony! In 4.0 the same people defending Mercs now complained about how unfair Sorcs were. The hate feels differently when it's directed at your favorite class huh guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenitsubasaChiyo Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The hate feels differently when it's directed at your favorite class huh guys? It feels... funny. Almost makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedcjedcjedc Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't think stealth is OP, but I do think the OOC mezz needs a CD. I am not a good Op, and even I can keep multiple people busy at a node for plenty of time without even breaking stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelinCarnate Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't think stealth is OP, but I do think the OOC mezz needs a CD. I am not a good Op, and even I can keep multiple people busy at a node for plenty of time without even breaking stealth. Thats an issue with multiple people trying to find and kill you instead of all capping at the same time forcing you to whitebar all of them and come out of stealth sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Stick to advocating mercs, it's slightly more believable. Hey, I thought the forums were the place to post stupid unreasonable nerf threads, my bad. I am going to create one next about snipers and their over-the-top burst and insane dcds next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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