Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Well at least he's countering with some things that actually exist. eeeeeee i'm not turning white am i? 0.o:eek: that would so not be a good look on me >.> :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Actually, what I do to counter you is provide data, and logical reasoning. What you do to counter me is provide opinion and illogical reasoning. Logical reasoning? Haha yeah that doesn't work with you guys it's way over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Logical reasoning? Haha yeah that doesn't work with you guys it's way over your head. waaaa condescending much ?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 well, Furh, i've been quoting people for 109 pages in Aowin's thread lol, but my bad. i thought your reading skillz were good enough to spot your own name. my bad, sorry. okay. horrid RNG talk engaged: 45 boxes opened on my main + 5 on my alt = ONE PIECE that is an upgrade to my current gear. Oh that's so horrible maybe if you complain enough they will send you a couple of other pieces to make you feel better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) well, Furh, i've been quoting people for 109 pages in Aowin's thread lol, but my bad. i thought your reading skillz were good enough to spot your own name. my bad, sorry. okay. horrid RNG talk engaged: 45 boxes opened on my main + 5 on my alt = ONE PIECE that is an upgrade to my current gear. 50 boxes...I'm impressed by such persistence. But this is the reality of it. As I told a particular person whose name shall not be mentioned (but it starts with an "a") about the equality of this RNG system: The moment we gain gearboxes we are all equal; the moment we open the boxes we are no longer equal. This is the reality of the current system and that's why I don't feel it's a fair system at all, because progression into harder content that we already played for years before, is in part dependent on what happens when we open the boxes. Edited December 12, 2016 by Tsillah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Boy I really struck a nerve with you didn't I. This must have been your favorite safe space to come to and feel all included and stuff...yeah here is this mean guy who is already to like 10 other bad posters ruining your safe space. To be fair, I think you're assigning more importance to your opinions or viewpoints than I think actually exists Furh. I think it is more likely folks are responding to your vitriolic posting style, not your actual viewpoint on the matter. That is not to say you have not suffered vitriol as well. I think you would find folks much more accepting of your opinion if it was not so often laced with diatribe. Again, it is your choice, but I tend to wonder why someone would post if they knew if was likely their opinion would be mocked and/or ignored based on their posting style...it seems counterproductive to me. You have a strong basis for your argument in support of the current system, but any strength is lost in the lack of self respect you demonstrate in your combative posts IMO. Edited December 12, 2016 by LordArtemis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 waaaa condescending much ?:eek: Honour the person who seeks the truth, beware the person who says he found it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Oh that's so horrible maybe if you complain enough they will send you a couple of other pieces to make you feel better.. well it could be worse....... it also could be better. which is exactly what we're upset about - that we do not have even a rough estimate to base our expectations on. if i knew i could say complete my 230 gear set within 2 months i wouldn't be bothered whether my first piece came in crate #1 or crate #101. it's the randomness of the whole thing that's not appealing. .... and certainly not exciting. and YES i know it's not gonna go away. i would however prefer if they would drop unassembled tokens instead. so that after i reach rank 300 i could continue farming them on my main and any doubles of token that i get i could just turn in and mail over to an alt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 50 boxes...I'm impressed by such persistence. But this is the reality of it. As I told a particular person whose name shall not be mentioned (but it starts with an "a") about the equality of this RNG system: The moment we gain gearboxes we are all equal; the moment we open the boxes we no longer are equal. This is the reality of the current system and that's why I don't feel it's a fair system at all, because progression into harder content that we already played for years before, is in part dependent on what happens when we open the boxes. "Equality" "Fair" let me guess the college you are in supplies play-doh when you are sad things didn't go your way...if they gave you a participation trophy would that make you "equal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 50 boxes...I'm impressed by such persistence. But this is the reality of it. As I told a particular person whose name shall not be mentioned (but it starts with an "a") about the equality of this RNG system: The moment we gain gearboxes we are all equal; the moment we open the boxes we no longer are equal. This is the reality of the current system and that's why I don't feel it's a fair system at all, because progression into harder content that we already played for years before, is in part dependent on what happens when we open the boxes. damn, i know i read this before.... hmmm i wonder where............ oooo i know ! do i get a cookie for guessing the name right? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 "Equality" "Fair" let me guess the college you are in supplies play-doh when you are sad things didn't go your way...if they gave you a participation trophy would that make you "equal"? The college I used to attend gave me a diploma upon completing it. I didn't have to roll a die to see if I could get my diploma or had to go back to kindergarten to start all over with exactly the same courses based on a die roll. I believe in being rewarded for work or effort. In fact participation is exactly what GC rewards. You have things completely backwards. It's no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Oh no I read it correctly you are just upset not everyone shares your entitlement mentality. Again you show your ignorance in readying and comprehending skills. I'm upset bw has limited ability to create a reasonable design when clearly gamers on this very forum have come up with ways to still control gear distribution time and it not be as fast as 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Serious question here: So today there have been about TEN of us going back and forth on the two or three RNG threads. If the RNG is so horrible why is there only 9 people complaining about today on the forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Serious question here: So today there have been about TEN of us going back and forth on the two or three RNG threads. If the RNG is so horrible why is there only 9 people complaining about today on the forums? well, it's quite clear that we are the representative minority. a lot of people playing this game don't ever bother coming on the forums, f2p simply can't even. and besides, it's not evening yet.... well... it is where i'm at. but in USA people are mostly at work at this time of day. or at school lol:D. Edited December 12, 2016 by Hichitsuki-hime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furh Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) well, it's quite clear that we are the representative minority. a lot of people playing this game don't ever bother coming on the forums, f2p simply can't even. and besides, it's not evening yet.... well... it is where i'm at. but in USA people are mostly at work at this time of day. or at school lol:D. Oh I would bet most of the complainers are school age or at least millennials. Edited December 12, 2016 by Furh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Serious question here: So today there have been about TEN of us going back and forth on the two or three RNG threads. If the RNG is so horrible why is there only 9 people complaining about today on the forums? Who knows? There are very few players that come to these forums to begin with, so why you should assign any value to these numbers is beyond me. The number of posters here means nothing. Only you contend that they do. Others prefer facebook, twitter, reddit, whatever. Some don't speak up at all. Others deal with it the best they can but still don't like it. There simply is no way of telling how many people like or dislike this system. That's why your comments are so pointless because you treat things that cannot be known as facts. I'm fine with you liking this system. I hope more people do so the game stays afloat long enough for BWA to make enough changes so I can come back again. There is nothing more going on from my side beyond that. As someone said, the biggest problem people seem to have with you is your style and insistence that your opinions are somehow facts. There never are really a lot of posters here because it's not a much frequented place. That doesn't prove anything beyond the simple fact that not many players visit the forums here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 damn, i know i read this before.... hmmm i wonder where............ oooo i know ! do i get a cookie for guessing the name right? :D Go on then...have a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Here is what the OP was upset about: This suggests that the loot tables for GC crates in 5.0 include the possibility of not obtaining any wearable gear at all. A far cry from "set pieces", or "best gear" And here we have an example of the Ad Hominem fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem At least I feel confident in my original estimation that your debate skills could use some work. To be fair, the OP has done nothing but complain about how hard it is to get set pieces in every complaint thread she's made and/or posted in. It's not hard for Furh to draw that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Serious question here: So today there have been about TEN of us going back and forth on the two or three RNG threads. If the RNG is so horrible why is there only 9 people complaining about today on the forums? Again, a fair question. I think you are presenting this question to make a point, but I will answer it as if it is not. Some folks are possibly just interested in the conversation or your posting style (like myself). Others may feel they want their voice to be heard. And this forum represents a small fraction of the folks that actually play the game. One could present this forum as a "litmus" or "canary" of sorts to the overall mood in the game, but I think Reddit is a better indicator of the game population's mood, as it is drastically higher participation numbers (naturally). I think only Bioware knows for sure how the playerbase is reacting to the change. If I were to guess (and that is all it is) I would say the vast majority of players likely do not care either way, but the system does little to nothing to convince players to keep playing the game. So, IMO, it does not hurt....but it doesn't help either. Much like most of the recent changes to the game from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Go on then...have a guess. A....O.....W.....I...... ... ... ... damn... what was that last letter again >.>..... :eek: ... N? :D:D GIMME COOKIE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 A....O.....W.....I...... ... ... ... damn... what was that last letter again >.>..... :eek: ... N? :D:D GIMME COOKIE!!!! fair and square...here's your prize https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Should we tell him ops also used to drop non-set items like earpieces and relics and rare materials to create such items as well? Nah, let him live in the delusion that somehow all I wanted was set items when that just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 To be fair, the OP has done nothing but complain about how hard it is to get set pieces in every complaint thread she's made and/or posted in. It's not hard for Furh to draw that conclusion. And Furh has done nothing but complain about people "crying" about RNG in the threads he made and posted in. And he wasn't just referring to Quraswen. So what's your point really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hichitsuki-hime Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 fair and square...here's your prize https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Choco_chip_cookie.jpg awww so yummy.... :eek: .... and now i'm hungry at 10:30 pm x.x :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 And Furh has done nothing but complain about people "crying" about RNG in the threads he made and posted in. And he wasn't just referring to Quraswen. So what's your point really? Well, lets be honest here, its the same ten or so people posting this crap all over the forums and then flocking to each other's posts. At what point does it just become useless spam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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