Nightkin Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Yeah.. you quit this game yet still troll its forums, what a life you must lead and I'm the peasent. get a life you pasty moron and don't forget to do the dishes or your parents wont be happy. MERC FTW mm witty, yaaaaawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-hans-gruber- Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 but its all about team work if you cant do that you beter quit this game if you think merc is so OP then you play it wrong but atm am more woried about sniper/gunslinger then any trooper/merc ore jugg ad redeclipse i see many play that class now and so 3 a 4 in a row are a pain to deal with with a saga/sorc close to them to heal them and so on then try to get close to them you mostly dead XD "more worried at snipers than mercs" Bruh, I want a toke of that spliff you've been smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-hans-gruber- Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Yeah.. you quit this game yet still troll its forums, what a life you must lead and I'm the peasent. get a life you pasty moron and don't forget to do the dishes or your parents wont be happy. MERC FTW He's not rage quiting mate, he just didn't get his pocket money this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cretinus Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) The reason why people can't beat a merc is because people are extremely bad. They want to win only by pressing all available DPS buttons in a row. Learn to use your interrupts + don't do brainless dps while the merc's shield is up + use your cc wisely + use the environment for los + learn to focus together with others -> profit. (You didn't like this advice? That's funny! Cause after all, it's exatly the same kind of hypocritical distraction tactic that you used to use when your sorc was op.) Edited December 14, 2016 by Cretinus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soljin Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 "more worried at snipers than mercs" Bruh, I want a toke of that spliff you've been smoking. Actually snipers are pretty nasty atm...especially if they can LoS....you will get AoE/Snared to death and lucky to get a shot off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 The only Jugg spec that isn't glass right now is Immortal, and they just don't have the damage output that people like to claim they do. DPS-geared Immortal juggs can still hit for ~25k+, more than I can hit for on my operative easily and a bit more than I hit for on my marauder. But yeah, the guy thinking that a jugg will always beat a merc is just lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaladan Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) there are more juggs than mercs in regs. just a thought, and yes i laughed on ranked which is a joke and not a a thing to judge Pvp/classes. Edited December 15, 2016 by Thaladan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadessaWayland Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 its all about who stun first and if more players focus on merc.s and they use stun ore other things a merc is as good as dead because this game is all about stunning fear blind sleep and you cant remove them all every time opertive/scoundrel have a very nasty reputation to really kill 1 class very fast and a Op merc cant do **** about it so in terms merc/mando are not Op ad all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razortron Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Juggs/Mercs take so long to kill now wiping a group to secure objectives is AIDS for the other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 opertive/scoundrel have a very nasty reputation to really kill 1 class very fast Think you're thinking of sin. Or PT. Or marauder. Or Merc. Or really pretty much any other class than an operative DPS. If you're dying to a DPS operative in a pure 1v1 with full CDs under like.. ~1m 30s at least, you're doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 opertive/scoundrel have a very nasty reputation to really kill 1 class very fast That was only for a couple of months after launch. After that gradually we were turned into rolling trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 That was only for a couple of months after launch. After that gradually we were turned into rolling trolls. Yeah lol, at this point, DPS op is basically a troll class or a good node guard/node delayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soljin Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) That was only for a couple of months after launch. After that gradually we were turned into rolling trolls. Yeah lol, at this point, DPS op is basically a troll class or a good node guard/node delayer. They are still a guaranteed win 1v1 Skill=/=Skill against any other class. Just because Operatives are not able to knock someone down and 100% to dead them before they stand up does not mean they are not in a ridiculous place. Edited December 15, 2016 by Soljin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severith Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sithbracer was kind enough to chart out the ranked situation in a thread today. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=906669 Six out his eight pie charts were dominated by mercs. A seventh pie chart was narrowly won by sorcs over mercs. The eighth pie chart was won by PT tanks due to op cleave mechanics. All of the classes are horribly balanced right now, but the merc god shield + reflect + heal to 70% while still doing the same dps needs to be addressed before the community as whole can address other class issues. Playing my merc for now, because I don't trust Bioware to handle things quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midianlord Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just tell me when my nerf back into uselessness is coming, so I can say that I've legitimately come full-circle in the five years I've been playing/maining Mercs, and then I can finally un-install this broken piece of bloatware **** and have done with its repellent little community of try-hard kids with daddy's credit-card. Until then, I'll enjoy the Schadenfreude. Cry some more, little baddie-kids. Cry. ***********. More, you know you want to! Your tears keep my car's windscreen nice and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) They are still a guaranteed win 1v1 Skill=/=Skill against any other class. Just because Operatives are not able to knock someone down and 100% to dead them before they stand up does not mean they are not in a ridiculous place. What's with this skill=/=skill. Last i checked =/= means not equal. back on topic: i have no idea what's the current class balance in 5.0, since i don't play anymore but even in 4.0 a good arsenal merc had the best chance in 1v1 vs conc operative of all the other dps disciplines in the game. Edited December 16, 2016 by Tsetso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razortron Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Merc/Mando is making players unsub from the game because it is so broken and warzones are full of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 What's with this skill=/=skill. Last i checked =/= means not equal. back on topic: i have no idea what's the current class balance in 5.0, since i don't play anymore but even in 4.0 a good arsenal merc had the best chance in 1v1 vs conc operative of all the other dps disciplines in the game. I actually never had any real issues against mercs in 1v1s, (good) Skanktank juggs were much more of a threat for me. You can't afford to fight in melee range with them constantly, and you have to be quick about doing damage because otherwise their DCDs can have them living forever, basically. But to reply to Soljin, 1v1ing people on operative is not as easy as it seems. Like, I'd wager that 99% of DPS operatives are complete cannon fodder. There's a reason a small number of people play the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinsal Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Merc/Mando is making players unsub from the game because it is so broken and warzones are full of them. Honestly, if I had to resort to playing merc in this game I would just uninstall. Talk about telling the entire game you're a shi.ttter and need a class to carry you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 But to reply to Soljin, 1v1ing people on operative is not as easy as it seems. Like, I'd wager that 99% of DPS operatives are complete cannon fodder. There's a reason a small number of people play the class. That might be overselling the case a bit. I agree that 1 v 1 isn't as effortless as people think. But the idea that 99% are cannon fodder is just silly. You would have to be brain dead to die a lot on this class. Sure if you get focused, but there's literally no class including other operatives who an operative can't escape from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janglor Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I've now had 7 ranked matches in a row where the majority, as 4+ players, are commando. Both sides then take turns killing off anyone unlucky enough to play non-mando, and then have a mando circle jerk in mid until they blow snow packages on each others faces. Sorc was bad a few seasons ago, PT had its day, but this may be the single most broken yolo class to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 This really needs to be adressed as soon as possible. :{ Probably 28th Jan is when we'll get some changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I've now had 7 ranked matches in a row where the majority, as 4+ players, are commando. Both sides then take turns killing off anyone unlucky enough to play non-mando, and then have a mando circle jerk in mid until they blow snow packages on each others faces. Sorc was bad a few seasons ago, PT had its day, but this may be the single most broken yolo class to date. It's definitely the most OP thing we've seen since smash marauders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadessaWayland Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) it wont change 1 bit if they nerf 1 class all other players look for the next op class and play that then maybe you see allot off shadow/assassin walking around oh w8 you cant see them bevore 5.0 jugg/knight was the op class and wola all play that now merc/mando is op all play that so yea players only looking for a class that is beter atm in pvp and this will keep going on and on there is no real balance in any pvp game its most off the hardest thing to do for a dev team Edited December 18, 2016 by ShadessaWayland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 it wont change 1 bit if they nerf 1 class all other players look for the next op class and play that then maybe you see allot off shadow/assassin walking around oh w8 you cant see them bevore 5.0 jugg/knight was the op class and wola all play that now merc/mando is op all play that so yea players only looking for a class that is beter atm in pvp and this will keep going on and on there is no real balance in any pvp game its most off the hardest thing to do for a dev team Obviously you can't influence the fact that players will play the "FOTM" unless every class is exactly the same. However, you CAN adjust balance so that everything is roughly similar, and not massively OP like what Mercenary is, currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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