iSay Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 a truly bad post looks like a wall o text TLDR pls? Just read the last paragraph. There are far worse launches than this as the OP says, I think Darkfall was one of the worst. And at least we don't have to deal with GOA... holy crap they were bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woocls Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 The issue here seems to not be with BW; clearly, the issue is literacy. I think BW has realized this and that's why they don't really bother to explain themselves. People will whine and ***** about this even if everyone got in and everything went smooth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novare Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 a truly bad post looks like a wall o text TLDR pls? Someone doest know what a wall of text truly is. --- I agree OP, all these ppl whining about not being in the game would be the same ppl whining if there was que times and server instability if everyone got in at the same time. Some people just dont know how to appreciate what they do get and thus can never be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyt_Neroon Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 @OP Trust me those writhing in pain over not getting into day 1 hardly have the attention span to read your post. For what it's worth though I agree fully, too bad they can't see it this way. +1 to both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tormentuk Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I WOULD RATHER SIT IN A CUR FOR 3 HOURS, AT LEAST I WOULD GET TO PLAY DAY 1. :mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyxa Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 The Last MMO Rift had a Perfect HeadStart Pre Launch they had at least 10k people all doing the same lowbie quests on deepstrike pvp server and the game didn't even crash once they reset it for like 2 minutes but that was about it...They dont even have half the money SWTOR had and it ran fine. If all you can let in is 2 weeks of preorders then your servers must be ****. You must have missed 100+ lowbies swarming rift events and your computer crashing. You must also have missed the part where they had serious server-side security issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViridianFox Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) @OP you sir/madam have just won the internet and what is left of the non idiotic community. Well done, I agree with you 100% after being in WoW's launch. Let me tell you it wasn't pretty or fun and no I'm not in the pre-release yet! Edited December 13, 2011 by ViridianFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohvan Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I had hoped for a picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woocls Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) The Last MMO Rift had a Perfect HeadStart Pre Launch they had at least 10k people all doing the same lowbie quests on deepstrike pvp server and the game didn't even crash once they reset it for like 2 minutes but that was about it...They dont even have half the money SWTOR had and it ran fine. If all you can let in is 2 weeks of preorders then your servers must be ****. You realize they've probably already put in as many people as rift had by launch. And tomorrow they'll have as many as rift had at it's peak. I played Rift at launch and it was chaos and poorly organized. Complete with server crashes and unplayable lag spikes. Edited December 13, 2011 by woocls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyxa Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 I want to go ahead an admit how big of an Idiot I AM for not reading all the way through and I retract the above statement:P Sorry to OP Im a moron It's ok, Drakinor, I forgive you. If I could, I'd give you a potato. /pet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanSeraph Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Vanguard had a bad launch. There were bugs everywhere but no one cared because they were too scared of falling through the world. Hell after that I thought AoC had a great launch. I never really got why people were complaining so much in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordrehl Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Lol You could have downloaded a while ago, I saw no ques at all at my buddies place, and guess what this isnt a launch lol. The game launch is set at 12/20 US 12/22 EU, this is an early access they are allowing people into, not because your owed but because they allow you. And if you have ever launched ANY other mmo you would expect issues. Fail post FTL, way to go. You realize they were talking about WoW's launch and how horrible it was in comparison to TOR at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSyn Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Lol You could have downloaded a while ago, I saw no ques at all at my buddies place, and guess what this isnt a launch lol. The game launch is set at 12/20 US 12/22 EU, this is an early access they are allowing people into, not because your owed but because they allow you. And if you have ever launched ANY other mmo you would expect issues. Fail post FTL, way to go. Ever watched Short Attention Span Theatre by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrepid Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 right: so the thing is this is doing 2 things. One: it will be spreading the population out so that excessive sharding will not be needed as much and performance will remain high. two: it is rewarding people who pre-ordered the game when it was first available. Anyone who is complaining about not getting in today is simply being a silly entitled bugger. My opinion? Quit ************. Depending on when you pre-ordered you'll be in the game within a few days. i you pre-ordered less than a month ago, quit complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraQ Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 The Last MMO Rift had a Perfect HeadStart Pre Launch they had at least 10k people all doing the same lowbie quests on deepstrike pvp server and the game didn't even crash once they reset it for like 2 minutes but that was about it...They dont even have half the money SWTOR had and it ran fine. If all you can let in is 2 weeks of preorders then your servers must be ****. totaly true.. and im very sorry about preordering this game because some of my friends start playing tonight and some of them gonna start tomorrow. we cant even lvl together or do quests togather. we just gonna meet at lvl 50. what a mmo hope gw2 comes out fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuraeTwilight Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You could have pre-load over a week ago, cry more 700's queue? That's pretty damn good. Unrestricted MMO Launches = Aion 4000+ queues, 6 hours to login Starting Area, = 5 fps, take a number for your quest mob, and yes, you are grouped with a full party trying to tag it. Rift Early Access 2000+ Queue, friends gave up, rolled a new server after the first day because the queues was not dying out. New server had 500 queues and was relatively faster. Starting Area = 12 FPS, packed heavy SWTOR Early Access looks fantastic in comparison. controlled launch, letting people level up and out of the starting zone so it is not over crowded. Less taxation on the server means less issues and downtime Seriously, hush up. It's early access, your getting free up to 7 days in a controlled effort to have a stable launch. This is fine, this is handled properly. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordrehl Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You must have missed 100+ lowbies swarming rift events and your computer crashing. You must also have missed the part where they had serious server-side security issues. lol yeah, the little bug that let people steal your account without even knowing your password What people are forgetting ... Rift had less than 100K pre-orders when Early Access opened ToR already has 10x that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonstone Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 *highfives you as well* It's about time people learn what a wall of text really is. What, with today's kids? Anything that has correct spelling and punctuation is a wall of text to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syvs Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I WOULD RATHER SIT IN A CUR FOR 3 HOURS, AT LEAST I WOULD GET TO PLAY DAY 1. :mad::mad: Damn, you can really tell who the kids are on this form On topic, Good post OP glad to see a post that isn't full of QQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Servers might be up and running but they have alienated so much of the community, and I'm not refering to staggering early access (I won't get in for a few days but I still think staggering the early access was a good idea) I am refering to the whole redzone/greenzone nonsense, only selling the digital version on origin and then IP blocking other countries from buying it digitally, and then removing a grace period that was promised across every method of community communication (twitter/forum and customer service). These things are worse for me than a server going down, or the client crashing. For ME, this is the most awful launch I have had the displeasure of participating in. All that aside, I will be playing when I can (a few days of early access and then shut out till my CE arrives in January...) and I will enjoy it for years to come. I will try put the launch experience behind me and try forget about it so I will be able to enjoy it all the moreso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptoling Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I agree OP. Been there, done that. I think they could have gotten away with some late evening waves but I'll get over it. I look forward to getting into EA and am not bothered if people want to ruin the main selling point of this game (the in depth storylines) by spacebaring their way to max level or exploiting the warzones. I want my invite to EA and the best I can do is read a bunch of angry posts on the forums until I get it =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woocls Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I WOULD RATHER SIT IN A CUR FOR 3 HOURS, AT LEAST I WOULD GET TO PLAY DAY 1. :mad::mad: actually this is day -7 I'm hoping to be in by day -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innoe Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You're allowed to download the game client starting the day before launch. It takes you the better part of a day because everyone and their grandmother and their dog are all trying to get the game installed before launch. You finally get the game installed and fired up. You log in. You're #785 in a queue. It takes 3 hours to get into the game. You get into the game, but the server lag is freaking terrible. Like you can't even move. You get disconnected. You have to log in again, but LUCKILY you don't have to wait in queue again. You get into the game, but then the server crashes. 2 hours later you get an update on the game launcher from an hour ago saying that they'll have an update in 30 minutes. Ho hum. Servers down. For forever. Wasted Pizza Hutt and Full Throttles. Never really know *** happened. When the servers do finally come back up (the next morning), you get in and everything seems good. Except there are 20 people sitting on a quest giver, making him unclickable. And then you have to go fight over mob spawns against 20 other people. Then you get to the part of the quest where you kill "the big guy" and you're stuck waiting to get your quest kill of ONE MOB, while you're getting ganked, and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire. You finally get your quest kill and you have to go digging through a stack of players AGAIN to turn in your quest. And then you get a game announcement saying that they're doing a server rollback. So an hour later after they finally get the servers back up when it should have taken 15 minutes, you have to deal with 20 people camping the same mob YOU ALREADY KILLED while you're getting ganked and that stupid warrior's charge tagged the mob before you could get off a moonfire, and then you have to go digging through a stack of players again AGAIN to turn in your quest AGAIN. So... Am I a little frustrated that other people are playing the game that I'm DYING to play? Yes. Am I frustrated that BW apparently decided to call it a day early and stop sending out waves for 16 and a half hours? Yes. Could they have done this some other, better, way? Probably. But "the worst launch ever"? I'm sorry, but no. BW made it known from DAY ONE that not everyone was getting into the game on day one of early access. And if it means that I don't have to sit for four hours in a queue so the servers can crash before I have to fight 50 people for the same respawns so they can rollback the servers and I have to do it all over again, then... Okay. You have no clue. With your example above EVERYONE is on the same page. EVERYONE is experiencing the same hangups. EVERYONE has the same ability to progress. With the way BW is doing it, No one is on the same level. For a competitive player and guild, this crappy launch is a kick in the nuts. Nothing we can do as we watch our members slowly log in a few a day. Things like server firsts or guild vs guild competition is out the window for the foreseeable future. This doesn't take into account the being on a PvP server and what it means to log in 5 days after anyone else. It also doesn't take into account the added stress on some people to try and catch up in levels to be able to participate with friends or guildmates. Ive been playing MMO's for 15 years and in my OP this is the absolute WORST way to release a game. I can tell you in all honesty that this launch has all but killed any enthusiasm I had for TOR because I am so competitive. Bioware, if I was not a member of a very good guild, I would be canceling my pre order right now. Thats a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xulkaen Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Shadowbane - Truly one of the worst launches I've ever seen, eclipsed only by the massive memory leak that would make even an entry level programmer cry. Still doesn't beat OP's story, but notable nonetheless. I haven't gotten in yet, nor did I expect to as I pre-ordered 11/5. From what I can tell though, this seems to a very efficient way to roll out the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provos Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Have you noticed the number of posts on the general discussion forum have decreased by over 3000 posts in the last 15 minutes. Censorship? Are we repressing the masses? Edited December 13, 2011 by Provos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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