fatsi Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) I am not implying anything like "SWTOR is dead.". However, I fear and get the feeling that KOTET will conclude the SWTOR saga. Because, even from what we know so far about the expansion, it can be easily interpreted that the Zakuul arc will end and we will become the eternal emperor/empress. So, I don't see a way for the story to continue after this point. So, what do you think? Edited October 24, 2016 by fatsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not exactly sure why you think it's going to end after this. I also don't see us becoming emperor. But in case we will and others know more than I do, no unofficial information spoiler tags please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVanagloris Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I am not implying anything like "SWTOR is dead.". However, I fear and get the feeling that KOTET will conclude the SWTOR saga. Because, even from what we know so far about the expansion, it can be easily interpreted that the Zakuul arc will end and we will become the eternal emperor/empress. So, I don't see a way for the story to continue after this point. So, what do you think? I dont know either what will happen once the Revan and Emperor story stuff is totally exhausted, those two characters have given a lot of fuel to the story. They used up Revan, the used up the Hutt Cartel, and it seems soon the figure of the Emperor will be also used up. However, i do think they will come up with something. Dont really know what, but something. I'd bet on the war erupting again between Empire and Republic, as that is something that has been asked for by a portion of the community. Probably one main story for Republic characters and another one for Empire characters, free for subs or maybe one of them free, the other purchasable, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I am guessing the Zakuul arc will end and we'll return to Cannon planets we know and love instead of invented by Bioware planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanaussie Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Doubtful. I have the impression that it will move forward from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraineAlei Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not exactly sure why you think it's going to end after this. I also don't see us becoming emperor. But in case we will and others know more than I do, no unofficial information spoiler tags please! ^ The Zakuul story should come to an end, but it doesn't make sense to have our characters become emperor/ress because video games never to my knowledge have a character at the top power ranking unless it's to set up for a serious fall early in the game, unless we're talking games like Sid Meier's Civilization series where you're building up an Empire to conquer the world or other culture building simulations. And not all players would want their characters to become Empress/Emperor of Zakuul anyway (seriously, my BH would like to go back to bounty hunting. Emperors tend to have prices on their heads, and the BH wouldn't be able to cash in on that price easily). No, I suspect we'll wind up doing something to "change destiny" and not "take your place" on the throne because PLOT REASONS. Or it's all Valky's plan to get us on that throne so he can Revan us or something just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Last expansion, with no return of companions? Talk about losing subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 ^ The Zakuul story should come to an end, but it doesn't make sense to have our characters become emperor/ress because video games never to my knowledge have a character at the top power ranking unless it's to set up for a serious fall early in the game, unless we're talking games like Sid Meier's Civilization series where you're building up an Empire to conquer the world or other culture building simulations. And not all players would want their characters to become Empress/Emperor of Zakuul anyway (seriously, my BH would like to go back to bounty hunting. Emperors tend to have prices on their heads, and the BH wouldn't be able to cash in on that price easily). No, I suspect we'll wind up doing something to "change destiny" and not "take your place" on the throne because PLOT REASONS. Or it's all Valky's plan to get us on that throne so he can Revan us or something just as bad. There could be another reason (lame as it may be) to become the Emperor: War with the Republic and Sith. I admit, it's lame, and becoming Emperor of Zakuul isn't necessary for this (they could just target the Alliance after all), and it'd be merely swapping you with Arcann and Vaylin, but it is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatsi Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not exactly sure why you think it's going to end after this. I also don't see us becoming emperor. But in case we will and others know more than I do, no unofficial information spoiler tags please! Description of the final chapter in the eternal empire home page says that we will fight for the control of the eternal throne. So, it is not an unofficial information. And since the Eternal Empire home page is where I got this idea, I didn't tag it as a spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerraShar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well , while I'm hoping we do get at least ONE choice for becoming Emprore . And ONE choice for saying No Thanx . I'm pretty sure , as you are about to say No or Yes , Scorpio will initiated some self destruct on Zaakul . The End . Boooring . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolodome Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Naw. There are always ways to keep a story going on. Especially in a world full of magic and superpowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerraShar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Naw. There are always ways to keep a story going on. Especially in a world full of magic and superpowers. Of course the story could keep on going and as you said in a world full of force technic and superpowers , it's endless . You just have to find that good writer that can make it Happen . But BW seem to have fired the writer so they can add to the Graphic designer guy salary lol Take Shadow of Revan for exemple , I did love it and was dreading it be all about Revaaaaaaan (Oh I hate him so much) . So was glad I only get to see his mug face at the end . My point is , look how they seem to be out of ideas milking old contents (and game ! shame on you BW) . For exemple , instead of bringing Revan again and make him even more lame then he already was coming out of the Forge Flashpoint . I would've put there that Leader of Revanite instead . Sure she doesn't have the force powers of Revan , but she was cunning and devious and certainly , it be a nice refreshing combat about a clash of belief then again..some overpowered Goone screaming ''It is my destiny'' over and over . Edited October 24, 2016 by SerraShar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolodome Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Of course the story could keep on going and as you said in a world full of force technic and superpowers , it's endless . You just have to find that good writer that can make it Happen . But BW seem to have fired the writer so they can add to the Graphic designer guy salary lol Take Shadow of Revan for exemple , I did love it and was dreading it be all about Revaaaaaaan (Oh I hate him so much) . So was glad I only get to see his mug face at the end . My point is , look how they seem to be out of ideas milking old contents (and game ! shame on you BW) . For exemple , instead of bringing Revan again and make him even more lame then he already was coming out of the Forge Flashpoint . I would've put there that Leader of Revanite instead . Sure she doesn't have the force powers of Revan , but she was cunning and devious and certainly , it be a nice refreshing combat about a clash of belief then again..some overpowered Goone screaming ''It is my destiny'' over and over . Well... I didn't say it'll be good story. But there are ways to keep it going. I mean, I didn't like the focus on Revan at all, cause I would have rather he remained a legend. But so far, the story arc is still on the overarching theme the game started with... the Sith Emperor and how he's affecting the state of the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerraShar Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well... I didn't say it'll be good story. But there are ways to keep it going. I mean, I didn't like the focus on Revan at all, cause I would have rather he remained a legend. But so far, the story arc is still on the overarching theme the game started with... the Sith Emperor and how he's affecting the state of the galaxy. I liked Vitiate . Yeah sure , voice actor for Valk is good and all of that . But I was so looking forward to a Lunatic Muahahahaha I'm gonna eat the Galaxy kinda of Vilain then Valk who have been doing nothing but preaaaach at me like a Perv ! Lol Oh he sound like one . Listen closely in Vision in the Dark..lol He is litteraly drooling ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabigool Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Naw. There are always ways to keep a story going on. Especially in a world full of magic and superpowers. I'd love an expansion focused on Bane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazanth Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think it should end after Valkorion is dealt with and I'll strongly consider leaving after that happens. I've really enjoyed the story in SWTOR but I'd rather end the story on a high note instead of milking it to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraineAlei Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'd love an expansion focused on Bane. Still a couple thousand years too early for Bane, but could be a good time to set up some of that backstory with the Sith Brotherhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesira Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 ^ The Zakuul story should come to an end, but it doesn't make sense to have our characters become emperor/ress because video games never to my knowledge have a character at the top power ranking unless it's to set up for a serious fall early in the game, unless we're talking games like Sid Meier's Civilization series where you're building up an Empire to conquer the world or other culture building simulations. And not all players would want their characters to become Empress/Emperor of Zakuul anyway (seriously, my BH would like to go back to bounty hunting. Emperors tend to have prices on their heads, and the BH wouldn't be able to cash in on that price easily). No, I suspect we'll wind up doing something to "change destiny" and not "take your place" on the throne because PLOT REASONS. Or it's all Valky's plan to get us on that throne so he can Revan us or something just as bad. BioWare games have a tendency to have that option available, Dragon Age: Origins you could become King/Queen. Dragon Age 2, you could become the ruler of Kirkwall, Dragon Age 3 you become the Inquisitor and are a Kingmaker. Etc. I could see our characters being able to assume the throne in the story, but either something will remove us from it forcefully (leading into the next expansion plot line) and/or we just move on in the story and leave Zakuul behind altogether for the remainder of SWTOR until any potential sequel to the game revisits that plot. All in all there are ways to allow becoming Emperor/Empress to happen and not be a weird or invasive fact of your characters story in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraineAlei Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 BioWare games have a tendency to have that option available, Dragon Age: Origins you could become King/Queen. Dragon Age 2, you could become the ruler of Kirkwall, Dragon Age 3 you become the Inquisitor and are a Kingmaker. Etc. I could see our characters being able to assume the throne in the story, but either something will remove us from it forcefully (leading into the next expansion plot line) and/or we just move on in the story and leave Zakuul behind altogether for the remainder of SWTOR until any potential sequel to the game revisits that plot. All in all there are ways to allow becoming Emperor/Empress to happen and not be a weird or invasive fact of your characters story in the future. But the Ferelden Grey Warden is never played again after The End. Hawke is also not a player character after The End. The Inquisitor is not playable in any later games, because there aren't any yet. And the Warden Queen doesn't seem to spend much time ruling and more time wandering Thedas. And then Ruling Hawke still winds up wandering Thedas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastersdr Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I would like to see something they did with WOW with WOD, going back in time alteering the mandorian wars. It would be awesome to visit that era officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think there are a fair few people who really like the whole KotFE story and it clearly stopped midway the story so KotET is naturally the continuation of that story. At the same time, I think there are also a fair few people who don't like KotFE and in particular the whole Zakuul direction that pulled us out of the known SW theme. It's a funny thing because recently I was watching the KotET trailer about Vaylin and my wife passed by (she's a big SW fan). She looked with me for a bit and said: well, I know it's SWTOR but it still looks more like Mass Effect to me. Now, I'm a big ME fan, so by itself that doesn't bother me as such but it also makes me less objective about it. So maybe, just maybe, some people did lose the SW vibe with Zakuul and BWA are planning to return back to our own part of the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabigool Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Still a couple thousand years too early for Bane, but could be a good time to set up some of that backstory with the Sith Brotherhood. Carbonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Description of the final chapter in the eternal empire home page says that we will fight for the control of the eternal throne. So, it is not an unofficial information. And since the Eternal Empire home page is where I got this idea, I didn't tag it as a spoiler. I'm.not actually talking about you, but other possible people. Somebody earlier already made a thread of unofficial info. Hidden under spoiler tags. I didn't click on it but yeah, it doesn't belong here. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndrag Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I would like to see something they did with WOW with WOD, going back in time alteering the mandorian wars. It would be awesome to visit that era officially. HELL NO! WoD was the worst expansion ever. ESPECIALLY the time travel crap and how they unraveled it. Not to mention that it was all for nothing, because it changed nothing. (Okay, there are almost 0 MMOs where player action actually changes things permanently in any way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 HELL NO! WoD was the worst expansion ever. ESPECIALLY the time travel crap and how they unraveled it. Not to mention that it was all for nothing, because it changed nothing. (Okay, there are almost 0 MMOs where player action actually changes things permanently in any way). I loved WoD's story, I didn't raid or whatever, but the levelling experience was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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