JohnnyGunman Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 So, I just noticed that WZ passes as well as OPS passes appear to no longer be on the CM. Am I missing something or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllisonLightning Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 So, I just noticed that WZ passes as well as OPS passes appear to no longer be on the CM. Am I missing something or what??? You aren't wrong- are they frelling insane? I don't use either but they are a major source of revenue both as from Preferred and from Subs selling it on the GTN, they are one of the most reliable means of CCs to credits. Just what the frell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGunman Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 You aren't wrong- are they frelling insane? I don't use either but they are a major source of revenue both as from Preferred and from Subs selling it on the GTN, they are one of the most reliable means of CCs to credits. Just what the frell... IKR! I'm like WTH!!???? Can Eric clarify just wth is going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Since preferred won't be able to gear for max lvl pvp, my guess is they are removing the restriction for low and mid level pvp and keeping it for max lvl where anyway only subs can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGunman Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Since preferred won't be able to gear for max lvl pvp, my guess is they are removing the restriction for low and mid level pvp and keeping it for max lvl where anyway only subs can do it. That seems logical, except that removing prefs ability to pvp would be the single worst thing they could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 That seems logical, except that removing prefs ability to pvp would be the single worst thing they could do. Yes, but all the other changes imply that if pref want to have any part in endgame they have to sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGunman Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Yes, but all the other changes imply that if pref want to have any part in endgame they have to sub. It does seems that way. I just can't believe it though. As if everything else wasn't bad enough... Perhaps there is some other explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 It does seems that way. I just can't believe it though. As if everything else wasn't bad enough... Perhaps there is some other explanation? Might be a bug, but we won't know until eric comes to work in monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Well it could be a bug but at the same time these are items that won't be useful in 5.0 anymore so maybe they are phasing them out. Chances are they'll be replaced with something else that fits 5.0 but I can see why these particular items will no longer be useful. So either it's a bug or it makes sense but why they didn't tell anybody? Well, BWA and communication right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyHF Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) i just checked the CM-all the weekly passes are gone, not just the wz ones, I am a sub right now so it doesnt affect me really, but an explanation wouldnt hurt. I guess with wzs as someone said they might remove the restrictions for lowbies, 65 pref and ftp wont be able to get the gear anyway and either way its not a secret you can bypass the whole thing by just grouping up with somene and they que the group instead of you. Removing the fps pass though makes no sense, as eric stated that fps are still gonna drop gear-at least lowbie gear, so unless they remove the restriction there too, it makes no sense to remove the weekly pass. currently dont have a theory for the ops pass. Edited October 22, 2016 by LadyHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllisonLightning Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 i just checked the CM-all the weekly passes are gone, not just the wz ones, I am a sub right now so it doesnt affect me really, but an explanation wouldnt hurt. I guess with wzs as someone said they might remove the restrictions for lowbies, 65 pref and ftp wont be able to get the gear anyway and either way its not a secret you can bypass the whole thing by just grouping up with somene and they que the group instead of you. Removing the fps pass though makes no sense, as eric stated that fps are still gonna drop gear-at least lowbie gear, so unless they remove the restriction there too, it makes no sense to remove the weekly pass. currently dont have a theory for the ops pass. Seriously, they should have told us they were doing this and why- obviously there's a reason and letting things stretch on, even if they're going to tweak for 5.0, it makes no sense to remove them for now because that's a whole month and a bit they're depriving themselves of weekly pass revenue that frustrates the players who use and sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolodome Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The idealist in me says this means they are removing the restrictions for pre-70 content. The cynic in me says they're doubling down on "sub or get the **** out" in yet another way. The programmer in me says it's a bug. The psychologist in me says there was a miscommunication and someone took it out by mistake. The food in me says mmm, hunger satisfied. Food good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankyn Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Most likely they are removing them now so people don't spend money on them and then complain that they were ripped off when 5.0 drops. It's not uncommon for games to remove new purchases of things in advance of something that will be impacted negatively by upcoming changes. I imagine they'll bring them back in a different form that's better suited to the post 5.0 world when it goes live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEcIipse Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I wouldn't surprise me in the least if they want to enforce SUB only. But then they end up making everyone that bought into their CM store very angry and cheated. Or it could be they are removing the restriction and are allowing people to play OPS, PVE, PVP, GSF, Space Missions for free. But I really doubt it. No way would EAWare remove the very thing that allows them to produce more money for their pockets. I think they want to compete with WOW all over again with Sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEcIipse Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) It's not uncommon for games to remove new purchases of things in advance of something that will be impacted negatively by upcoming changes. You must be new. BW never tells the community in advance. They like keeping things to themselves until the last minute. Edited October 22, 2016 by DarkEcIipse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transcendent Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 it could be they are removing the restriction and are allowing people to play OPS, PVE, PVP, GSF, Space Missions for free. Possible, no reason to not allow those players to participate in that content as they can't gear through it anyway. Much more likely they've removed them for the following; - It's a bug / error. - They're changing it to GC passes to allow access to all of the above content and increasing the price for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhedgehog Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The idealist in me says this means they are removing the restrictions for pre-70 content. The cynic in me says they're doubling down on "sub or get the **** out" in yet another way. The programmer in me says it's a bug. The psychologist in me says there was a miscommunication and someone took it out by mistake. The food in me says mmm, hunger satisfied. Food good. they really would like to go back to a subscription model with the cash shop. they are working their way back there but I think it will go over like a fart in church. Not well received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) That seems logical, except that removing prefs ability to pvp would be the single worst thing they could do. I don't want ungeared people on my team for any activity PvP or PvE. They will be unable to contribute properly. If you want to play in 5.0 you need to be subbed. I am surprised if the passes are gone a month early though. Edited October 22, 2016 by annabethchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Nex Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Actually, what would be a positive change is giving F2P/Pref unlimited access to Ops, Warzones, etc. and selling a GC pass if they want gear. That way it will make pops happen much more frequently / easier to get groups for ops and BW can still make money off of GC passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Actually, what would be a positive change is giving F2P/Pref unlimited access to Ops, Warzones, etc. and selling a GC pass if they want gear. That way it will make pops happen much more frequently / easier to get groups for ops and BW can still make money off of GC passes. I don't want a pop with a guy not geared for the content. Hard pass on that plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanArgent Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Actually, what would be a positive change is giving F2P/Pref unlimited access to Ops, Warzones, etc. and selling a GC pass if they want gear. That way it will make pops happen much more frequently / easier to get groups for ops and BW can still make money off of GC passes. They'd have to break it down to a GC pass, plus other optional passes. Otherwise, there's already a GC pass, it's a subscription. I mean, yeah, you could theoretically have shorter time GC passes, but that's effectively saying "sub for a day or a week." Which they clearly aren't interested in, or they'd sell time cards denominated in less than month increments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeita Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 was obvious that they'd do this with the new system. Still sucks. BW you're making a gigantic mistake and you will pay for it, turn back before it's too late PS: I hope you are going to issue refunds, cause this is totally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Maybe they're making warzone's free for all unlimited!!! Prolly not, but if hope so. All the passes sucked either way and f2p players couldn't afford them. I never got what the point was. I remember in one of their blogs them mentioning that they were going to be available without limit, either this year or last. but that never got implemented. Edited October 22, 2016 by Eshvara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applejacxs Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 - They're changing it to GC passes to allow access to all of the above content and increasing the price for doing so. Yeah i thinking this as well you get one global pass that lets you do everything. It will be interesting to see what other changes are coming to the ftp/sub model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebdar Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 wish there was some Community Police when these stealth things happen... so would could grab some ppl and question them live on forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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