Nightblazer Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 As per this article showing a copy of the original script, han shot first: https://www.yahoo.com/movies/chewie-proves-it-han-shot-first-221744762.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Could this debate be finally over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) I 2nd what Ford said, I really just don't care about this. Fine he shot first in the original, fine he didn't in the SE, fine whatever...this whole thing is just kinda dumb imo and blown up way too much. Edited March 3, 2016 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Harrison Ford for YEARS said "I SHOT FIRST". I think that ends the debate right there eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightblazer Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 I personally never cared about the debate either way. Just found it interesting this was posted so I just wanted to link it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazproperty Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 https://media.giphy.com/media/M2TV62ihjVTGM/giphy.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anysao Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Harrison Ford for YEARS said "I SHOT FIRST". I think that ends the debate right there eh? Yes, and Adam Driver said "I STABBED FIRST." That was a joke, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Skynwalker Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) I 2nd what Ford said, I really just don't care about this. Fine he shot first in the original, fine he didn't in the SE, fine whatever...this whole thing is just kinda dumb imo and blown up way too much. Nope Wolfhinjajedi.....I don't really care either about weither Greedo did or Han did.....what really happened was that the Film Developers got so eager to put the first Star Wars: A New Hope Movie out that they snipped off the scene showing that Greedo was a lousey shot.....just blowing a hole in the wall a few inches above Han's head in the Cantina Scene.......then Han fires and........he does not miss!!!!! POOORRRR GREEDO.....he becomes a slimy spot on the floor; the reason that this is true is because on the Remade versions that such clippings of the Film Editors were still kept many years after since they were tossed in a few large metal cans and low and behold the clippings were found and added to the DVDs and Blue Ray disks. Edited May 3, 2016 by Eric_Skynwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_Skynwalker Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Hate to burst your bubble......BUT YOUTUBE does it better! On Youtube you can find out whom shot first in the cantina scene if Han or Greedo shot first.......Han Solo did not shoot first, the clippings added to the DVDs and Blue Ray shows that Greedo fired first so there.....once and for all the Debate is finally over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnaman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 There's no debate. In 1977 it was clear to me when I watched Star Wars over and over that Han shot first. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kweassa Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 There's no debate. In 1977 it was clear to me when I watched Star Wars over and over that Han shot first. Period. Yep. There is no debate in the first place. George Lucas has this really bad habit of constantly fiddling with his works to fit the tastes of whatever group of people that brings in commercial profit. People wouldn't be so bummed if it was just slight retouches of the screen or addition of special effects, but he actually goes so far as to retcon stuff without thinking about the consequences. The fact of the matter is, originally, Han wasn't a "good guy." He was an interesting and complex character. He had his heart in the right place, but he is also cynical, untrusting, shrewd, and street-smart because he's a criminal operating in areas where there was hardly any law, like the American wild west. He's also effectively a drug trafficker as well. So when Han first appeared in the movies, he was a bad-*** before the term "bad-***" was even invented. He's not inherently cruel or evil, and he also hates the Empire, and is prone to be a good person most of the times so long as consequences allowed it... but when in tough spots, he would not hesitate to just "shoot first and be done with it", because that's what he is. A tough, street-wise, and sometimes violent criminal operating in criminal operations. EP.4 in 1977 wasn't afraid to present Han as what he was, and that's why we loved his character so much. It was cool. But then after the late '80s Lucas is just mesmerized by the commercial empire the series has brought up, and starts viewing Star Wars as more of a kiddy-family-friendly flick.. more toys, more cartoons, more TV shows... so it's gotta be friendlier to the children, so Han can't be a criminal/gangster type character. He's just a bit cranky good guy. so he couldn't have just shot the Rodian in cold blood! **shakes head** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Yep. There is no debate in the first place. George Lucas has this really bad habit of constantly fiddling with his works to fit the tastes of whatever group of people that brings in commercial profit. People wouldn't be so bummed if it was just slight retouches of the screen or addition of special effects, but he actually goes so far as to retcon stuff without thinking about the consequences. The fact of the matter is, originally, Han wasn't a "good guy." He was an interesting and complex character. He had his heart in the right place, but he is also cynical, untrusting, shrewd, and street-smart because he's a criminal operating in areas where there was hardly any law, like the American wild west. He's also effectively a drug trafficker as well. So when Han first appeared in the movies, he was a bad-*** before the term "bad-***" was even invented. He's not inherently cruel or evil, and he also hates the Empire, and is prone to be a good person most of the times so long as consequences allowed it... but when in tough spots, he would not hesitate to just "shoot first and be done with it", because that's what he is. A tough, street-wise, and sometimes violent criminal operating in criminal operations. EP.4 in 1977 wasn't afraid to present Han as what he was, and that's why we loved his character so much. It was cool. But then after the late '80s Lucas is just mesmerized by the commercial empire the series has brought up, and starts viewing Star Wars as more of a kiddy-family-friendly flick.. more toys, more cartoons, more TV shows... so it's gotta be friendlier to the children, so Han can't be a criminal/gangster type character. He's just a bit cranky good guy. so he couldn't have just shot the Rodian in cold blood! **shakes head** I can put it in simpler terms. he's the Star Wars version of Josey Whales, billy the kid, or any other outlaw you can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbr Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Han shot first. The act was so shocking that it matched Obi Wan slicing up aliens in the earlier scene. The scene showed that this random smuggler was as dangerous as the Jedi and that we have entered a dark universe. It helped set the tone for the whole film and made the character infamous, turning to legend as he joined the Rebels and became a good guy. If Greedo shot first the impact of the scene and the character would have been far less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Han shot. Greedo died. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCobalt Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ofcourse Han shot first. Wouldn't you? If I can get my gun aimed at you without you knowing. Ofcourse the trigger is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirakKordis Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 yup, Solo shot first. how else would've greedo's shot gone so wide? when hit by Solo's weapon there had tp have been a nervous reaction on greedos part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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