Heroics @ level 65?

[LordMordeth]

For those of us who haven't started the expansion, what is the point of running these heroics if the reward is a crate you need to haul to Odessan (sp?) to get something out of it?

 

Cos i was about to run some Tatooine heroics last night on my level 65 Scoundrel, but noticed the locked crates as rewards that would had to be taken to Hylo whatshisface to bolster my alliance which just seems wrong, seeing as the character in question isn't nowhere near to even starting the damn expansion content yet.

 

Am i just missing something here?

 

As i'd like to run the various heroics on various planets (been years since i did em last time!), but if the rewards are trash tier junk crates that are useless to me unless i happen to have started the expansion.. yeah, what's the damn point?

[AuckaLukaum]

Money. Lots of money.

 

Also, just because you haven't started the expansion yet, doesn't mean you eventually won't. The crates are legacy-bound, so if you do the expansion later on another character, you can bank them.

 

But most nights we'll get people together in groups of two, draw the heroics that we know are instanced, and then just go on a murdering spree. Can easily make a half million or more credits in an hour or so.

 

Third, some of the conquest events give points for doing certain planetary heroics.

 

Lastly, because they're fun. They're easily soloable, but if you do them in pairs (and split up once inside the instance) you can knock them out super fast.

[Wslicer]

Assuming you intend to do the new expansion at some point, then they are definitely worth your time. Just hang on to the boxes until you can use them, they stack and you'll be glad to have them handy later. That probably works out well if you are doing the Heroics anyways.

 

Most of them are easy, but some can take a lot longer than others, Makeb for example can be long. Since all the heroics are pretty much equal in rewards now unless you need rep for Makeb or Voss, you can do any that you want.

[Halinalle]

You're at level 65 and haven't started expansion yet?

 

That's what you do at level 65 after completing chapter 9.

When you give the locked crate to specialist you get crate: includes one random piece from legacy set, sets are old pve sets with different colors (at least Dread Guard, Arkanian, Underworld, Resurrected) + companion gifts and rarely mounts.

[LordMordeth]

You're at level 65 and haven't started expansion yet?

 

That's what you do at level 65 after completing chapter 9.

When you give the locked crate to specialist you get crate: includes one random piece from legacy set, sets are old pve sets with different colors (at least Dread Guard, Arkanian, Underworld, Resurrected) + companion gifts and rarely mounts.

 

Why would i even want to start it, if i haven't even completed Rise of the Hutt Cartel on that specific character yet?

 

I mean, not everyone is going to get into the expansion content, i personally plan to probably have one, maybe two characters per side to go through it, since i doubt i'll ever want to do the alliance grind that many times (since i'm hearing it exactly that, a massive grind), but this thing where they just assume that everyone will start it, will want to do this alliance gathering on each of their level capped characters is.. well, it's not good, in my opinion.

 

It seems a bit silly to offer those crates to people who aren't middle of the expansion but whatever really, i can live without the heroics, guess i have to do them on the character that is meant to grind up an alliance at some later date is all.

[Doreian]

Why would i even want to start it, if i haven't even completed Rise of the Hutt Cartel on that specific character yet?

 

I mean, not everyone is going to get into the expansion content, i personally plan to probably have one, maybe two characters per side to go through it, since i doubt i'll ever want to do the alliance grind that many times (since i'm hearing it exactly that, a massive grind), but this thing where they just assume that everyone will start it, will want to do this alliance gathering on each of their level capped characters is.. well, it's not good, in my opinion.

 

It seems a bit silly to offer those crates to people who aren't middle of the expansion but whatever really, i can live without the heroics, guess i have to do them on the character that is meant to grind up an alliance at some later date is all.

 

 

And by massive grind you can finish most of the alliance ranks in a week then yeah sure is.

[LordMordeth]

EDIT:

 

Welcome to laggy forums i guess, stupid double posting when trying to refresh the page.

Edited October 29, 2015 by LordMordeth

[Overmind]

Why would i even want to start it, if i haven't even completed Rise of the Hutt Cartel on that specific character yet?

 

I mean, not everyone is going to get into the expansion content, i personally plan to probably have one, maybe two characters per side to go through it, since i doubt i'll ever want to do the alliance grind that many times (since i'm hearing it exactly that, a massive grind), but this thing where they just assume that everyone will start it, will want to do this alliance gathering on each of their level capped characters is.. well, it's not good, in my opinion.

 

It seems a bit silly to offer those crates to people who aren't middle of the expansion but whatever really, i can live without the heroics, guess i have to do them on the character that is meant to grind up an alliance at some later date is all.

Pets part needs legacy unlock.

[Forgettableone]

You're at level 65 and haven't started expansion yet?

 

That's what you do at level 65 after completing chapter 9.

When you give the locked crate to specialist you get crate: includes one random piece from legacy set, sets are old pve sets with different colors (at least Dread Guard, Arkanian, Underworld, Resurrected) + companion gifts and rarely mounts.

 

Dude I'm sat on 21 65's and another 7 to grind and only one of them has started FE. Hell the majority of those won't start it until I know when their love interests return. I've spent a pile of time pre-emptively grinding out nearly 200 crates just getting them 65 so as once 1-9's done I might have a sporting chance of getting the alliance base to a decent level across a couple of characters.

 

If by some miracle I've over shot (highly doubtful) and end up with nothing to do, I'll go back and finish any achievements I've not yet got *shrugs*

[SteveTheCynic]

Hell the majority of those won't start it until I know when their love interests return.

Better get going on your male agent(s) then, if you hooked up with Kaliyo. She comes back (official announcement) in Chapter X.

[Ajuma]

I have 30 heroics I run because of the speed, easy and dont have to fight for spawns on them, I make about 1mil to 1.1mil in lil over an hour. I have 8 commandos and 2 vangaurds I run these on because of the fast dps. I save up about 130 to 140 of each alliance crate then ill run a toon through kotfe and pretty much insta rank 20 with all 4 guys. you will get about 2.5mil creds just in opening the crates and selling the legacy gear to vendor. Then lots of credits selling the tons of comp gifts you get, i sell the planet decos at 200k each. then u get mounts you can sell anywhere from 100k to 500k. These heroics are a huge cash cow and there is NO need to exploit at all. the money is so easy

[LogunOne]

Why would i even want to start it, if i haven't even completed Rise of the Hutt Cartel on that specific character yet?

 

I mean, not everyone is going to get into the expansion content, i personally plan to probably have one, maybe two characters per side to go through it, since i doubt i'll ever want to do the alliance grind that many times (since i'm hearing it exactly that, a massive grind), but this thing where they just assume that everyone will start it, will want to do this alliance gathering on each of their level capped characters is.. well, it's not good, in my opinion.

 

It seems a bit silly to offer those crates to people who aren't middle of the expansion but whatever really, i can live without the heroics, guess i have to do them on the character that is meant to grind up an alliance at some later date is all.

 

If your doing the Heroic +2 now your already doing the content you need to do that your calling a grind to level your Alliance. If you save up those crates by the time you get around to it you'll have your Alliance levelled up in no time. When you hand in those crates you'll be rewarded with 500 Alliance points, cash, gear and companion gifts.

 

Their not making you do additional content to level your Alliance your alliance levels by you doing the content your choosing to do anyway ...LOL

 

As you hand in those locked crates and level your Alliance you get rewarded with both common and radiant crystals you can save up for the 208 and 216 gear.

 

I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to complete the new content, it only takes about 8 to 12 hour to unlock your Alliance and it helps greatly with gearing for endgame content

[Beltane]

The crates are legacy bound. Store the ones you get on your alts in your bank and turn them in on the one character you want to do KOTFE with. Easy.

 

I've maxed out my alliance (all 4 specialists to 20) on two different characters so far and I haven't even done an excessive number of heroics. It's only a grind if you make it. By doing the easy/fast heroics on alts and tossing them all in the bank for the character I'm leveling to claim, it goes crazy fast.

 

And the credits it gives are off the charts. Way better than dailies.

 

Not sure what could ever possibly be considered "not good" about massive credits + legacy bound crates. By making them legacy bound they're basically acknowledging you may not be able to open them on every character.

Edited December 16, 2015 by Beltane

[Spyderwoman]

Dude I'm sat on 21 65's and another 7 to grind and only one of them has started FE. Hell the majority of those won't start it until I know when their love interests return. I've spent a pile of time pre-emptively grinding out nearly 200 crates just getting them 65 so as once 1-9's done I might have a sporting chance of getting the alliance base to a decent level across a couple of characters.

 

If by some miracle I've over shot (highly doubtful) and end up with nothing to do, I'll go back and finish any achievements I've not yet got *shrugs*

 

200 crates might finish a couple toons but no where near all 21 you would like a hell of a lot more hehe.

[JWagner]

You're at level 65 and haven't started expansion yet?

 

That's what you do at level 65 after completing chapter 9.

When you give the locked crate to specialist you get crate: includes one random piece from legacy set, sets are old pve sets with different colors (at least Dread Guard, Arkanian, Underworld, Resurrected) + companion gifts and rarely mounts.

 

It isn't that hard... I was lv 61 by the time I finished Corellia... and that's after I started doing class-only after so long. It's too easy to hit 65 now if you throw in some extra things on the side with level sync...

 

I just hit Rishi, so why would I wanna jump ahead?

 

I was using it to collect crates for my smuggler, who is on Odessus, and to store them for my next char to start kotfe. On top of that, the credits are a nice bonus as well.

 

I did heroics on one of my characters, and they were geared all the way to 60... til I started getting crates... Kinda nice

[RowanThursday]

The good news there is that, if you do those heroics for credits in all your characters, but keep those crates, let them mount up, then when you do choose to put a character or two through the Alliance content after chapter nine, you'll be able to reduce the grind a LOT.

[ForceWelder]

OP ...

 

Some Heroics are pure long as hades. Others you finish in a matter of a couple of minutes. On the repub side, Orb Mantel heroics are all side by side. While you are completing one, you actually are working on completing another. And even with level sync you can all but one shot everything that crosses your path. It is the easiest money you could ever dream of making.

 

But honestly, you need the crates. Most heroics can generate 30k credits per completion. That is 18k for the turn in and 12k for the bonus attached to it. Usually the bonus is killing X number of whatever that you have to kill anyway to complete the mission.

 

The Heroics literally is BW way of making everybody multi-millionaires. By the time you hit 65, no loot from these heroics is even worth picking up so there is no fight for gear. You go in, rape, pillage, and kill and move on to the next. Clean house with a tag team effort and in no time you have stacks of these crates which once opened only generate even more revenue for you.

 

So do the heroics as you are leveling. But be fore warned. The Mekab ones can be quite long.

[efffel]

My last character, now 2 weeks old, breezed trough the content, H2 where used to keep her weaponry top grade and to explore the map.

Getting to 65, H2 are a convenient way to quickly travel from a planet to the next, my characters could do the Gree quest quite fast that way, the crates I just stack them for later use. For top weaponry, it seems the purple flashpoints serve the purpose of upgrade, a good first hand by beating Malgus, a good relic on Directive 7,...

[IslanderRebel]

Dude I'm sat on 21 65's and another 7 to grind and only one of them has started FE. Hell the majority of those won't start it until I know when their love interests return. I've spent a pile of time pre-emptively grinding out nearly 200 crates just getting them 65 so as once 1-9's done I might have a sporting chance of getting the alliance base to a decent level across a couple of characters.

 

If by some miracle I've over shot (highly doubtful) and end up with nothing to do, I'll go back and finish any achievements I've not yet got *shrugs*

 

 

 

I feel your pain bro.

I had 24 60s on Harby along and all are 65 now.

I transferred 2 of them to 2 other servers and got those 2 new transfers already thru Chapter 6.

Meaning the last 2 grinding Chapters are all that's left because Chapter 9 is a joke.

As far as Op goes, it's only a grind if you want the Alliance members to 20 so you cna get those 4 shiny new speeders for your reward.

Otherwise, get them to 10 influence so you cna use the buffs when you do Heroic Star Fortress if you dare to.

The planetary heroics are just there to rack up comms and the crates.

you can also give C2-N2 a weekly supply of mats to gain 500 influence for all 4 alliance members to save you from doing 1 heroic(4 total) for the 4 alliance members.

besides, you make money doing them boring things.

Want to have some fun?

be like Forgettableone , myself and countless others who ran their alts thru the ringer and racked up crates and credits for their lead Imp and Pub side characters for their alliance members and comps (at least 1 anyway) to max level 20 for alliance and 50 for companion.

It's only a grind if you make it such.

I ran at least 20 alts for the first couple weeks doing as many heroics to get 3 to max level 20 for alliance influence.

I definitely didn't cheat to get comp gifts and get them to 50.

Blood, sweat and laughs got mine maxed.

[Storm-Cutter]

Put 1 character through the expansion. Do lots of H2s for crates and legacy gear and companion gifts.

Do chapter 1 on the second. Run more H2s until 65

use all gifts to get Lana or Koth to >30 influence.

Burn through the story second time in < 3 hours.

Use the commander's datapad for gearing your main into 220s - and by wearing the legacy gear, your other characters can wear it too!

Use all the spare millions of credits wisely - buy some Augments.

and treat yourself to a 10M credit speeder! Vroom! Vroom!

With a rank 20+ companion, your crewskill missions should complete real fast / augment lots too!

Easy peasy!

 

Repeat the above for all your other characters until next Xmas! Yay!

Edited December 16, 2015 by Storm-Cutter

[TX_Angel]

Why would i even want to start it, if i haven't even completed Rise of the Hutt Cartel on that specific character yet?

 

I mean, not everyone is going to get into the expansion content, i personally plan to probably have one, maybe two characters per side to go through it, since i doubt i'll ever want to do the alliance grind that many times (since i'm hearing it exactly that, a massive grind), but this thing where they just assume that everyone will start it, will want to do this alliance gathering on each of their level capped characters is.. well, it's not good, in my opinion.

 

It seems a bit silly to offer those crates to people who aren't middle of the expansion but whatever really, i can live without the heroics, guess i have to do them on the character that is meant to grind up an alliance at some later date is all.

 

Most of my toons skipped RofHC, it isn't interesting enough to run 20 times.

 

If you hVe never run it, then yes, go do it.

 

Finally, I think you have missed that the crates are LEGACY bound, you can run heroics on 5 different toons and send them all to your future toon that runs KotFE.

 

They aren't going to waste, no matter what toon you run heroics on.

[ZanyaCross]

I'm kinda on the OPs side on this. Hit lv 65 this morning with my trooper. Wanted to run a few heroics for some blue gear for my level, saw only alliance crates as quest rewards.

 

People jumping on the OP and telling him how he's supposed to play the game aren't helping anything but their own egos.

[TarkaBear]

I'm kinda on the OPs side on this. Hit lv 65 this morning with my trooper. Wanted to run a few heroics for some blue gear for my level, saw only alliance crates as quest rewards.

 

People jumping on the OP and telling him how he's supposed to play the game aren't helping anything but their own egos.

 

Opposite side is, that blue gear is so quickly replaced it would last you all of the 10mins it takes to talk to the crystal vendor on fleet for the 208 purples(or 30mins to run a tactical flashpoint). Whereas the crates will always be useful.

[Avalyssia]

200 crates might finish a couple toons but no where near all 21 you would like a hell of a lot more hehe.

 

Yes it's approximately 80 crates (so you'll need 80 military, 80 alien, 80 smuggler, 80 ancient) to get your whole alliance to 20.

 

As for the gear box from the planetary heroics, they stop after level 61 and are at 172 level.

[Muljo_Stpho]

As for the gear box from the planetary heroics, they stop after level 61 and are at 172 level.

 

At which point you can be somewhere in the middle of progressing through the free 168s from Forged Alliances (available to start at 55), free 172s from Rishi (intended for 55-57 leveling), free 178s from Yavin (intended for 57-60 leveling), and free 190s from Ziost (available to do at 60).

 

It would be nice if the heroics at 61+ offered a choice between the crates (which I'll chime in with a fourth (I think?) reminder that these are legacy bound so you can stockpile them until you need them), a 200 (or whatever rating) box, and some amazing third thing (like... a crate that randomly contains a materials satchel, some Jawa scrap (probably the least common results), or a credits lockbox (probably the most common results)) though. Just for the sake of having options. It wouldn't harm anything. It would actually give us something different to aim for if we have a different goal in mind. Maybe this guy didn't feel like running the Revan content and is looking for some quick gear to grab. Maybe that guy wants to rake in some free supplies for his crafters.

Edited December 16, 2015 by Muljo_Stpho