Chiricahua Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) By bracketed I mean lvl 30 - 34, etc. Which means cross server pvp just like WoW. And, not a minute to soon. Edited December 26, 2011 by Chiricahua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowar Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yes they will and the crying from 50's who have to take on people their own level will be priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTwine Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Thats not the reason people dont want brackets. The reasons is because ques will take even longer then they already do. but then again with ques being longer the ganking will be as alot of level 50s are already full purple. Won't that be fun? All the accomplished 50s stopping you from questing cause you cant level as fast as they did through pvp when that change does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheeling Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yes they will and the crying from 50's who have to take on people their own level will be priceless. So many more nerf threads will be opened lol. All because someone thinks they can use the exact same strategy on a level 50 as they do on level 20's. "I can't kill Sentinels now?!?! They must be nerfed IMMEDIATELY." I can see it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowar Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Thats not the reason people dont want brackets. The reasons is because ques will take even longer then they already do. but then again with ques being longer the ganking will be as alot of level 50s are already full purple. Won't that be fun? All the accomplished 50s stopping you from questing cause you cant level as fast as they did through pvp when that change does happen. Keep telling yourself that. Remember to come back here when the 50's bracket is put in. The whining will be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebUs Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I'm going to guess that it's something they plan to have anyways, but decided not to do it so it gives plenty of time for people to get to 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaki-chan Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yes they will and the crying from 50's who have to take on people their own level will be priceless.You know there putting in a 50's bracket when there's more of them......right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaady Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 My queues are near instant but I'm hating the lvl50premades that bend me over.... brackets would be amazing. Though they don't want to be like other mmo's they should still take the good ideas. Though I do love the feeling of killing a lvl 50 1v1 at lvl 15. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowar Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 So many more nerf threads will be opened lol. All because someone thinks they can use the exact same strategy on a level 50 as they do on level 20's. "I can't kill Sentinels now?!?! They must be nerfed IMMEDIATELY." I can see it now That will be exactly what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raelimar Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) I'd much rather have same-server warzones than bracketed warzones. Hopefully BioWare doesn't cave to the whiners. Bolstering can be tweaked, destroying competitive communities and servers is permanent. Edited December 26, 2011 by raelimar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obvslyme Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Who cares. I personally am tired of carebears whining about PVP and the lack thereof to dominate in it. I'm tired of entering warzones and having players complain in /ops because they don't rush the lesser fortified position. I also get annoyed when players rush around worrying more about kills than the objectives. The argument I hear for brackets: I want to be the guy owning people. If I'm with people who have better gear I can't own. I want to be the top of my ladder without any learning curve or climb. I want to be able to dominate those around me instead of being dominated.I want to rush the center instead of playing by objectives.There is an I in team. Eve taught me one thing. If you want to dominate the galaxy, you must first get dominated by the galaxy. I don't play carebear PvP. I like challenges, and I like penalties for death. I make top 5 quite often and I'm level 27 on an RP-PVP server. I wish this game had punishment for death, but it doesn't. Please stop whining, and get over the learning curve. That's pretty much what it is. I think that's why people have this viceral reaction to say, "learn to play", you are complaining about a new game and troubles overcoming its learning curve. You are asking for an "easy" mode to a lot of us; while pretending it will only make it more "competitive". You are removing the most stiffest of competition, because you personally feel your character or class can't handle it. I don't feel that way so please don't speak for me. If I wanted bracketed PvP dominated by whomever gets bored enough to hold fast at the top of the bracket I would find that. I want objective based team oriented PvP; and this game has inklings of that. The main thing required to provide a solid PvP environment, and build a good relationship with development teams would be: Stop whiningGo join a warzoneGo after objectives, not kills or damagePlay Defense tooTravel in groupsFocus on objectivesGoal is to win the skirmish not build your personal stats or egoTake that death like a man, go respawn and try something differentStop focusing on choke points full of combat, when there are objectives wide-open to be had.Take notes and provide constructive criticism, instead of manic flashmobs of "X from Y is the only way, "game breaker". After all carebears there are people who like challenges. There are other things to complain about more important and way more constructive for the community in general. Bracketed PvP would send me back to Eve as I consider that an "easy button". Instead of campaigning against an "easy button" I'm deciding to play the game, gain experience in PvP, get my *** whooped, and learn this game because I like it. When I'm 50 it'll be earned, and I'll know how to fight like it. Learning is fun, and sometimes you take a beating. If you don't want to get rolled you could always PvE or upgrade your gear. If you were saying improve bolster, you'd have me interested, but i hear a call for an easy button, and I must ask nicely to refrain from this manic parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuile Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The arguments I hear for no brackets I want to be the guy owning people. If I'm with people who have better gear I can't own. I want to be the top of my ladder without any learning curve or climb. I want to be able to dominate those around me instead of being dominated.I want to rush the center instead of playing by objectives.There is an I in team. Not a very good list you had there is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eroiqua Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 It's not about owning people. I want a fair fight. Bolster only raises lower levels to the equivalent of blue level 50 gear. Champion gear is a hell of a lot better than blue gear. In several of the matches I've played today we've faced premades with 50s in champion gear. Strategy didn't matter...the gear gave them too much of an edge to overcome even with good teamwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeysmash Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I think 50 Brackets will come soon for sure, they are just waiting for more people to hit the cap first. Eventually (and hopefully) they will continue to keep warzones server only and have a few brackets added, but i wouldnt be surprised if they are something like 10-30, 31-49, and 50. this way we dont have 50s vs tens, but with more levels in each bracket queue times wont ever hit stupid long. Unless your sith, but I rolled Reps knowing that my queues would be near instant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLpride Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) I thing 50 should just be it's own bracket. just a simple solution that makes sense, and eventually it will be the most common. And also because the gear obviously spikes at level 50 as well. Edited December 26, 2011 by WLpride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannicus Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Reasons Bolster is better: Brackets have the same exact level/gear problems, minus the queue issue, PLUS making it a cinch to PVP with Guildies and friends. Done. Bolstering isn't going anywhere, it'll only be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannicus Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 In several of the matches I've played today we've faced premades with 50s in champion gear. Premades are premades. Making it a bracketed system won't stop that. Bolster will be improved and, with any luck, we'll see a 50's only bracket they can choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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