Aeristash Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) I'm starting to wonder about IGNs accuracy as I don't recall a SINGLE play through where I was able to marry a female NPC as a female or a male as a male. Not every female character in the game is romancable, but every female that could be romanced by a male is romancable by a female & Likewise with the males. If you're just not able to marry same gender at all, your game must be bugged. Edited October 17, 2015 by Aeristash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 How does it boil down to that? I said don't make almost every female a romance, because it makes the romance generic & lackluster. You don't agree? Fable, skyrim & da all went the mass unisex romance route and the sgr didn't even feel like sgr. It felt like romancing bland factory processed genderless blocks. Don't know about you, but I don't want that in tor. I don't see how wanting to preserve unique identity would equal to me ostracizing sgr as whole. I hope not, lana is enough for right now. Sgr needs to be churned out in carefully measured doses. What made the relationship with lana an exciting romance for my fem warrior was the rarity of it. Engaging in a relationship that had previously only been heard about in whispers & hints made my fem warrior feel special, bubbly & excited, like she was making a bold social statement and partaking of forbidden fruit. You're complaining at that part that one full romance is enough because anymore would make your character feel ''special, bubbly & excited'' If almost every female starts being romancable, the relationship will become generic and the magic will be cease to be. Please don't ruin sgr, devs. And I said I do agree with this part. The only thing you could be talking about is the one time fling (if one could call a kiss that) on makeb that never called back, not a romance like lana. The vanilla game was strictly m/f romance. The only time I got a hint of sgr in vanilla was during vettes quest as a female sw, when I asked to test her sister. I believe she disapproved and my sw said "Aren't we all open minded here?". If you have any other times, I'd love to hear them. Okay? And? My point there was that at no point is it implied in the game that Same Sex relationships or occurences is frowned upon or Taboo. And for more SSR flings and such, there's Lord Cytherat, you can flirt with Arkus, Darth Acina (I think that's her name), Eva Kaayz, both of the Bounty Contacts and Theron I agree that not everything should be romancable, but you do realise that there are many, MANY full time romances in the game? Yes, none of the companions were SSR, but they were fully romancable and there's more then one that's romancable. And most of them were good (Vette and Jorgan being my favourites), so having more then one full time romance that's SSR most likly won't 'Ruin SSR'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShieldProtection Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hey, just be clear, I'm a guy in real life (playing female characters in MMOs because guys loves girls right?,also its fun to troll idiots with twi'lek dancer costume) Personally I agree on fem to fem romance in BioWare games but not homosexual. It may sounds weird or strange but thats my own opinion, as other people mentioned in this thread "not everyone bisexual" nor "not everyone homosexual" I completely agree, the reason I agree on female to female romance/sex because I'm a men and I have no problems seeing that girl to girl experience (naturally) but as I said thats my very own opinion, the reason I opened this thread because I wanted to learn that its possible or not: romancing with Vaylin, thats all so lets do not make this thread full "gender equality" bs because in BioWare forums including Mass Effect and SWTOR, there's a HUGE chance feminazis or other trolls...you know what I mean and my english is bloody horrible! yes! well I don't like it either but thats my way to speak with people on forums(or die trying) english is not my main language so I'm sorry if anyone got offended in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaesha Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Not every female character in the game is romancable, but every female that could be romanced by a male is romancable by a female & Likewise with the males. If you're just not able to marry same gender at all, your game must be bugged. Bugged could be a possibility but I also stopped playing around game update 1.5 so maybe this was added with a later patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Hey, just be clear, I'm a guy in real life (playing female characters in MMOs because guys loves girls right?,also its fun to troll idiots with twi'lek dancer costume) Personally I agree on fem to fem romance in BioWare games but not homosexual. It may sounds weird or strange but thats my own opinion, as other people mentioned in this thread "not everyone bisexual" nor "not everyone homosexual" I completely agree, the reason I agree on female to female romance/sex because I'm a men and I have no problems seeing that girl to girl experience (naturally) but as I said thats my very own opinion, the reason I opened this thread because I wanted to learn that its possible or not: romancing with Vaylin, thats all so lets do not make this thread full "gender equality" bs because in BioWare forums including Mass Effect and SWTOR, there's a HUGE chance feminazis or other trolls...you know what I mean and my english is bloody horrible! yes! well I don't like it either but thats my way to speak with people on forums(or die trying) english is not my main language so I'm sorry if anyone got offended in some way No one even brought up gender issues, just the quality of ramances and how just slapping it onto a character can make it a bad romance and ruin the character. And yes, your sentece doesn't make sense since you can't be for girl on girl if you're against homosexuality, SINCE THEY'RE THE SAME THING. Homosexuality is attraction to the same sex, no matter if you are a boy or girl. Edited October 17, 2015 by Codedrago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShieldProtection Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 No one even brought up gender issues, just the quality of ramances and how just slapping it onto a character can make it a bad romance and ruin the character. I know man, I just said - I also love ramances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I know man, I just said - I also love ramances Edited into my last post And yes, your sentece doesn't make sense since you can't be for girl on girl if you're against homosexuality, SINCE THEY'RE THE SAME THING. Homosexuality is attraction to the same sex, no matter if you are a boy or girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 all my characters are already taken, even if the option existed, i wouldnt take it. as someone else put it, each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShieldProtection Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 No one even brought up gender issues, just the quality of ramances and how just slapping it onto a character can make it a bad romance and ruin the character. And yes, your sentece doesn't make sense since you can't be for girl on girl if you're against homosexuality, SINCE THEY'RE THE SAME THING. Homosexuality is attraction to the same sex, no matter if you are a boy or girl. Well calm down, I can't remember meanings all those terms about sexuality or whatever you call it, there's no reason to be so sensitive. Drink some water ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well calm down, I can't remember meanings all those terms about sexuality or whatever you call it, there's no reason to be so sensitive. Drink some water ya. Sensitive? Does a few words in caps imply sensetivity? I was only trying to make it clearer to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShieldProtection Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Sensitive? Does a few words in caps imply sensetivity? I was only trying to make it clearer to you. ok thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmors Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Thats how i felt about how they made everyone bisexual in Dragon Age 2. Not everyone is gay. Nor is everyone straight or bisexual. Overall it cheapened it, and put more of a "they dont care about -who- you are, just that they can **** you."vibe to it. I like how they did it in Dragon Age Inquisition, some were male/female only, sera was f/f only, dorian was m/m only, and -Bull - would **** everybody... That was exactly how I felt about it as well. It also made the characters feel more fake to me since everyone was a playersexual and was more for sex than anything else. I don't mind if Vaylin is a gay, straight, or bisexual as long as they don't follow the same path in DA2 and make every new Love Interest bisexual/playersexual. That's if Vaylin will be a companion and romanceable. If anything, she strikes me as being a bit similar to Jaesa. Edited October 17, 2015 by Philmors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) You're complaining at that part that one full romance is enough because anymore would make your character feel ''special, bubbly & excited'' I said sgr needs to be churned out in carefully measured doses, not stopped all together. While I adore the lana romance, that doesn't mean I want to see every new trending female character produced also up for sgr. Preferences are a factor in character individuality and I'd rather they all differ. I wouldn't mind in time, if there were 10, 20 ect sgr romances, but not back to back for fan service. Okay? And? My point there was that at no point is it implied in the game that Same Sex relationships or occurences is frowned upon or Taboo. Actually your point implicates quite the opposite, but that's going to detour us into the morality of sgr and I think we should avoid that sect of the convo at all cost. And for more SSR flings and such, there's Lord Cytherat, you can flirt with Arkus, Darth Acina (I think that's her name), Eva Kaayz, both of the Bounty Contacts and Theron I agree that not everything should be romancable, but you do realise that there are many, MANY full time romances in the game? Yes, none of the companions were SSR, but they were fully romancable and there's more then one that's romancable. And most of them were good (Vette and Jorgan being my favourites), so having more then one full time romance that's SSR most likly won't 'Ruin SSR'. Telling someone they're cute isn't a fling. It's a compliment and they shoot you down 95% percent of the time. Those are terrible examples to push sgr as being the norm. and once again, I never said I was against sgr. Quite the opposite. Just don't want them to start being mass produced. Edited October 17, 2015 by Aeristash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Occasional lol-flirt while fighting her followed by romace+redemption option would be so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I said sgr needs to be churned out in carefully measured doses, not stopped all together. While I adore the lana romance, that doesn't mean I want to see every new trending female character produced also up for sgr. Preferences are a factor in character individuality and I'd rather they all differ. I wouldn't mind in time, if there were 10, 20 ect sgr romances, but not back to back for fan service. . Well, I will say that I did jump the gun a bit at your first post, as it came off as saying that more then one would lessen the quality (Though I still hold that one of the other reasons you put forward was that it made your character feel less special). But I think we're both agreeing (Or completly side stepping each other ) that more is good, but preferably do it for quality, not just to add to the roster. Okay? And? My point there was that at no point is it implied in the game that Same Sex relationships or occurences is frowned upon or Taboo. Actually your point implicates quite the opposite, but that's going to detour us in the morality of sgr and I think we should avoid that sect of the convo at all cost. How does my point that no one in the SWTOR universe seems to have a problem with homesexuality imply that they do? And for more SSR flings and such, there's Lord Cytherat, you can flirt with Arkus, Darth Acina (I think that's her name), Eva Kaayz, both of the Bounty Contacts and Theron Telling someone they're cute isn't a fling. It's a compliment and they shoot you down 95% percent of the time. Those are terrible examples to push sgr as being the norm. and once again, I never said I was against sgr. Quite the opposite. Just don't want them to start being mass produced Arkus and Arcina were the only ones I mentioned that didn't go further then a flirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelinaH Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Those are terrible examples to push sgr as being the norm. and once again, I never said I was against sgr. Quite the opposite. Just don't want them to start being mass produced. Do you have the same objection to OGRs being "mass produced"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleonora Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I hope not, lana is enough for right now. Sgr needs to be churned out in carefully measured doses. What made the relationship with lana an exciting romance for my fem warrior was the rarity of it. Engaging in a relationship that had previously only been heard about in whispers & hints made my fem warrior feel special, bubbly & excited, like she was making a bold social statement and partaking of forbidden fruit. If almost every female starts being romancable, the relationship will become generic and the magic will be cease to be. Please don't ruin sgr, devs. Wow no one should ever listen to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafaman Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well... I need to know much more about her before I can consider it. But... it would be an interesting option. But what will you give up to be able to romance her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusramsey Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) I am conflicted about this, because I do want proper stories that make sense, but... I am going to disagree, because it took them so long to get started with this, so long before the very first [Flirt] at the same gender was possible, that of course it's all mashed into the end of the story, because that's where they began. I'd agree if they would properly fit in some sgr into the 1-50 experience, which they won't, so I'd rather they just provide options and have people decide for themselves whether they want to go there or not. edit: My statement is in general, regarding romance options, I have not watched/read anything about the newly introduced characters, so this is not specifically about Vaylin. Edited October 17, 2015 by cyrusramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaesha Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well... I need to know much more about her before I can consider it. But... it would be an interesting option. But what will you give up to be able to romance her? Considering she's on the side of the enemy you likely have to give up your freedom or they could have it set so you convince her to defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well, I will say that I did jump the gun a bit at your first post, as it came off as saying that more then one would lessen the quality (Though I still hold that one of the other reasons you put forward was that it made your character feel less special). But I think we're both agreeing (Or completly side stepping each other ) that more is good, but preferably do it for quality, not just to add to the roster. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Do you have the same objection to OGRs being "mass produced"? What is ogr exactly? Google has no acronym for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeristash Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Wow no one should ever listen to you. I agree. No one that values fan service over substance should listen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) And yes, your sentece doesn't make sense since you can't be for girl on girl if you're against homosexuality, SINCE THEY'RE THE SAME THING. Homosexuality is attraction to the same sex, no matter if you are a boy or girl. Homophobic men are homophobic against men on men (because theyre terrified at being to ask/made to join in). They are not however afraid of girl on girl because they are salivating at the thought of being asked to join in. Edited October 17, 2015 by XiamaraSimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wangxiuming Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 And Vaylin's voice is like nails on a chalkboard...*shudder* I wouldn't want her for any of my toons. But to each their own I guess. Yeah, I got the exact same feeling. Reminds me of an evil Sera from Dragon Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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