Satele Shan's armor in the equipment section

[Volthammer]

PLEASE! lol Please for the love of all that is good and right make it available for purchase in the equipment section of the Cartel Market. It's been out for such a long time why not?

 

I'm one of those who now refuses to try and acquire it through the two Cartel packs it's supposedly gotten from. The drop rate is so astronomically low that one could easily go through hundreds of actual dollars trying to get it. For my part that isn't going to happen again. Very foolishly (I admit it) I went through 65 (SIXTY-FIVE, man!) Gatekeeper's Stronghold packs hoping a full set of Satele's armor would drop, and now I have a cargo bay and a half full of near trash. LOL

 

And players ingame have the prices set, on all servers, at absurd and astronomical rates. By that I mean 20 to 30 million credits. I'd hate to do it, and this is not at all a threat, but I'd be more likely to go through a credit farmer than waste more actual money trying to get it from a pack.

 

If this were a real life casino with the marginal chance of hitting a real jackpot that would be one thing, but this is a purely cosmetic game item. No, I won't be doing Cartel packs any more. lol Oh no siree.

 

Anyone care to /sign?

[BrianDavion]

sell your cargo bay contents, and buy the gear

[Volthammer]

sell your cargo bay contents, and buy the gear

 

My friend, I would gladly do that save for one small problem: nothing I got from those 65 packs will even come remotely close to being able to buy even one piece of the tunic or boots.

 

By the way, would you care for several full sets of the Series 614 cybernetic armor? I have about 28 of them now. Or how about a House Rist flag? I have 49 of those. You may have it all.

[Kilikaa]

While I do not know how many packs I bought to acquire Satele's armor when it first released I do know it was less than 20. I was lucky enough to get every piece except the boots, which were the most coveted piece of the entire set. I finally broke down and paid 500,000 credits for a pair. (I got real lucky one night on the gtn)

 

Knowing how expensive available pieces are and how rare it seems to be I would support this being added for direct sale now. I see no reason why this or several other sets should not be put up for direct sale. There are still plenty of items from other packs to entice people to buy them with new packs coming out in the future.

[Ratajack]

PLEASE! lol Please for the love of all that is good and right make it available for purchase in the equipment section of the Cartel Market. It's been out for such a long time why not?

 

I'm one of those who now refuses to try and acquire it through the two Cartel packs it's supposedly gotten from. The drop rate is so astronomically low that one could easily go through hundreds of actual dollars trying to get it. For my part that isn't going to happen again. Very foolishly (I admit it) I went through 65 (SIXTY-FIVE, man!) Gatekeeper's Stronghold packs hoping a full set of Satele's armor would drop, and now I have a cargo bay and a half full of near trash. LOL

 

And players ingame have the prices set, on all servers, at absurd and astronomical rates. By that I mean 20 to 30 million credits. I'd hate to do it, and this is not at all a threat, but I'd be more likely to go through a credit farmer than waste more actual money trying to get it from a pack.

 

If this were a real life casino with the marginal chance of hitting a real jackpot that would be one thing, but this is a purely cosmetic game item. No, I won't be doing Cartel packs any more. lol Oh no siree.

 

Anyone care to /sign?

 

This would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue. One of the reasons why those packs still sell as well as they do IS the rare chance to obtain Satele's armor. The same applies to the other packs and the highly coveted, items the various packs contain.

 

While YOU may not be willing to buy the packs, many people ARE willing to buy them, either to open themselves or to sell on the GTN.

 

If you want that armor set, you know what options you have to obtain it. You can either purchase the packs (direct from the CM using CC or off the GTN using credits) or you can purchase the desired armor pieces from the GTN at the going rates.

 

I doubt that begging BW to essentially hand it to you on a silver platter, while simultaneously shooting themselves in the pocketbook is going to work for you.

[Nefla]

I was cleaning out the storage of my many alts and found a pair of Satele's boots unbound. It was a glorious day and now I have the whole set unlocked <3

[Volthammer]

This would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue. One of the reasons why those packs still sell as well as they do IS the rare chance to obtain Satele's armor. The same applies to the other packs and the highly coveted, items the various packs contain.

 

While YOU may not be willing to buy the packs, many people ARE willing to buy them, either to open themselves or to sell on the GTN.

 

If you want that armor set, you know what options you have to obtain it. You can either purchase the packs (direct from the CM using CC or off the GTN using credits) or you can purchase the desired armor pieces from the GTN at the going rates.

 

I doubt that begging BW to essentially hand it to you on a silver platter, while simultaneously shooting themselves in the pocketbook is going to work for you.

 

That's your opinion. It's not fact, just your opinion. If they put it up for sale in the equipment section they would still make a ton of money from it. I don't think people who are buying those packs have a clue as to how phenomenally low their chances actually are. Handing it to me "on a silver platter" very strongly implies you mean them giving it to me for free. I would still have to pay for it were it in the equipment section. Probably for roughly 20 to 40 U.S. dollars. I hardly call that "a silver platter".

 

Or do you happen to have some Satele armor you want to sell at shockingly offensive prices and this would prevent you from doing that?

 

Edited to point out that "This would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue" is pure and unadulterated rubbish. People leaving the game in a mass exodus would have a profound and negative impact on their revenue or dropping the cartel market altogether...not putting Satele's armor in the equipment section .

Edited October 10, 2015 by Volthammer

[Ratajack]

That's your opinion. It's not fact, just your opinion. If they put it up for sale in the equipment section they would still make a ton of money from it. I don't think people who are buying those packs have a clue as to how phenomenally low their chances actually are. Handing it to me "on a silver platter" very strongly implies you mean them giving it to me for free. I would still have to pay for it were it in the equipment section. Probably for roughly 20 to 40 U.S. dollars. I hardly call that "a silver platter".

 

Or do you happen to have some Satele armor you want to sell at shockingly offensive prices and this would prevent you from doing that?

 

I have none of Satele's armor, either to sell or use.

 

The phrase I used was "ESSENTIALLY handing it to you on a silver platter", with the emphasis on "essentially", by which I mean you are begging to remove any "gamble" AND high cost to obtain said armor.

 

It is only YOUR opinion that BW would stand to see as much, or more, revenue from a direct purchase of Satele's armor as it currently does from the packs which contain said armor. IMO, your opinion is not objective, but rather a very biased opinion, fueled by your apparent desire to have that set for as little cost as possible.

 

Edited to point out that "This would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue" is pure and unadulterated rubbish. People leaving the game in a mass exodus would have a profound and negative impact on their revenue or dropping the cartel market altogether...not putting Satele's armor in the equipment section .

 

The number of things that would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue is not limited to ONE THING ONLY. There are many things that would have a drastic negative impact on their revenue including, BUT NOT LIMITED TO people leaving the game in a mass exodus. One of those things is also allowing direct purchase of highly coveted, extremely rare cartel pack items.

 

If they allow direct purchase of those highly coveted, extremely rare items, they may see some sales of those highly coveted, extremely rare items, but the sales of packs that contain those items would drastically plummet.

This is because BW would lose not only the purchases made by those seeking to obtain those highly coveted items from opening packs, but also the purchases made by players planning to sell those packs on the GTN. Far fewer players would by the packs.

 

Those who now purchase specific packs to open in the hopes of obtaining one of those highly coveted items would simply purchase the item directly.

 

Those who now purchase packs to sell on the GTN would buy far fewer packs as the value for those packs would plummet for the aforementioned reason.

[Spyromason]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4fshG6RU7Og/VV7RI93I6qI/AAAAAAAAAD4/ouqXSfkbDMo/w452-h753/Grey_Jedi_Paladin_zpsmdtul1ki.jpg please add this I think it would look amazing in the game ( the person is a gray jedi ) and could I possibly have it if you do put it in the game?

[Volthammer]

I have none of Satele's armor, either to sell or use.

 

The phrase I used was "ESSENTIALLY handing it to you on a silver platter", with the emphasis on "essentially", by which I mean you are begging to remove any "gamble" AND high cost to obtain said armor.

 

It is only YOUR opinion that BW would stand to see as much, or more, revenue from a direct purchase of Satele's armor as it currently does from the packs which contain said armor. IMO, your opinion is not objective, but rather a very biased opinion, fueled by your apparent desire to have that set for as little cost as possible.

 

 

 

The number of things that would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue is not limited to ONE THING ONLY. There are many things that would have a drastic negative impact on their revenue including, BUT NOT LIMITED TO people leaving the game in a mass exodus. One of those things is also allowing direct purchase of highly coveted, extremely rare cartel pack items.

 

If they allow direct purchase of those highly coveted, extremely rare items, they may see some sales of those highly coveted, extremely rare items, but the sales of packs that contain those items would drastically plummet.

This is because BW would lose not only the purchases made by those seeking to obtain those highly coveted items from opening packs, but also the purchases made by players planning to sell those packs on the GTN. Far fewer players would by the packs.

 

Those who now purchase specific packs to open in the hopes of obtaining one of those highly coveted items would simply purchase the item directly.

 

Those who now purchase packs to sell on the GTN would buy far fewer packs as the value for those packs would plummet for the aforementioned reason.

 

You're wrong.

[alceleniel]

/sign

 

I bought the armour set from the GTN when it was first in the packs and the prices were reasonably back then (at least as far as I can remember). Xoxaan, Dathomir et. al. were far more expensive. But my husband still wants Satele's armour and he is not willing to pay those prices at the moment. Even with the sale right now they are not going down significantly.

[Theeko]

Yeah they just keep undercutting from the insane prices recently, and not reverting to old prices like they were the first time. I bought my Satele set for 2m total about last year, I've also made the mistake of trying to get it through packs as well opened nearly 50 packs and didn't even get a satele boot or tunic.

[XiamaraSimi]

Not entirely sure what the hype is on her outfit, undyable gold tertiary trim, and the boots clip terribly behind the knees on a lot of things.

 

Seriously, trying to dye it makes you look like you just left clown school, that gold tertiary trim ruins it.

Edited October 10, 2015 by XiamaraSimi

[Theeko]

dyed black and white reminds me of Shaco from LoL somehow, lol

[BlueShiftRecall]

I only need the boots to complete the set and they're still still on 7-8mil on the GTN, yeah nope not spending that much on the boots. Xoxaan's armour and Jarael's armour have all come down on the GTN but some of that Satele stuff hasn't really changed, well at least the boots aren't 20mil+ any more

[TX_Angel]

And players ingame have the prices set, on all servers, at absurd and astronomical rates. By that I mean 20 to 30 million credits.

 

Why is that absurd? 20 million isn't what it used to be, you could obtain that from doing game stuff for a few weeks without even pushing it.

 

It is one of the rarest and most desirable sets in the game, that is why it is priced there. And it does sell, I sold a complete set of it a few weeks ago for 30 million, and that was a direct sale.

 

Items that were in packs shouldn't be offered for direct sale, that'll crush the whole idea of packs, once they cross that line, they can never go back.

[TX_Angel]

Yeah they just keep undercutting from the insane prices recently, and not reverting to old prices like they were the first time. I bought my Satele set for 2m total about last year, I've also made the mistake of trying to get it through packs as well opened nearly 50 packs and didn't even get a satele boot or tunic.

 

^ If the drop is so rare that 50 packs doesn't get you either the boots or the tunic, then perhaps the GTN price is reasonable?

[Stoofa]

There are plenty of rare drop items - but it's really not fair to just add them to the "buy me now" section of the market.

I'm currently after the Dathomir tunic - current price is around 5m.

I "could" get myself An architects hypercrate and try to find myself one, in fact I could get a couple.

Although, I could also buy the hypercrate that sells for the most credits and sell it for far more than 5m and just buy the item I want

 

Time and time again it is said - if there is a particular item you want, why would you open a hypercrate when it can be sold for more than the item you want?

You have the choice - buy crate, open crate, open packs - maybe you'll be lucky, oh imagaine the credits you'll have saved if you do win the item you want.

Or be boring, sell the crate and be guaranteed to have the credits to buy the item you want and have some left over?

[JamieKirby]

I was lucky enough to get some boots, which took off the 16mil cost, but i had to buy the tunic for 6mil or so.....but i have the full set now, so yay.

 

I just gotta wait for the expansion to come out and i will roll a sith warrior using this armor set with a black and red dye....gonna be awesome looking.

[Knockerz]

That's your opinion. It's not fact, just your opinion. If they put it up for sale in the equipment section they would still make a ton of money from it. I don't think people who are buying those packs have a clue as to how phenomenally low their chances actually are. Handing it to me "on a silver platter" very strongly implies you mean them giving it to me for free. I would still have to pay for it were it in the equipment section. Probably for roughly 20 to 40 U.S. dollars. I hardly call that "a silver platter".

 

Or do you happen to have some Satele armor you want to sell at shockingly offensive prices and this would prevent you from doing that?

 

Edited to point out that "This would have a drastic negative impact on BW's revenue" is pure and unadulterated rubbish. People leaving the game in a mass exodus would have a profound and negative impact on their revenue or dropping the cartel market altogether...not putting Satele's armor in the equipment section .

 

That is your opinion too. If BW could make more money with direct sales, they would have switch to direct sales. BW has experts in micro transaction, probably a few PhDs who sole job is to provide a financial frame work for micro transaction in order to maximize profits. BW has the data on why people are leaving, what keeps people sub, and what model to use for the cm to maximize profits. You seem to forget that the CM saved swtor. Had it not been for current form of the CM, this game would have shutdown. You don't need that item to play the game. I highly doubt it BW would have introduce that set had not been for the CM. The satele was a CM suggestion by the swtor player based on the swtor forums.

 

You know how much I paid for my satele tunic and boots? I paid about 30 million in total. How did I make enough credits to buy the boots and chest? I crafted and played the gtn. I only farm credits when I needed an influx of credits right away, like right now I'm trying to get enough credits to buy 2 wing mounts for 40 million. If I need more credits, I can always buy hypercrates and sell them on the gtn. That is what you should have done. Had you done that instead of opening them, you would have at least been able to buy one piece, boots or chest, then you could have farm a little credits to buy the rest. If you bought three hypercrates you would have gotten about 15 million and both chest and boots would cost about 15 million or buy 2 hypercrates and farm the remaining 5 million. Hypercrates sell about for 5 million credits.

 

Not everyone wants hypercrates for their rare items. I only care about the rep and certificates. I am not disappointed by opening them because I can use the rep and certificates. However, you will be disappointed if you are only after the few rare items with a low chance. I opened a few hypercrates and never gotten a big price item, but I have sold the items a few months later for credits. That is also another approach you can take. The problem is you wan to make big credits fast and don't want to wait.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Knockerz

[Olteron]

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx27/photobomberj/arm%20glitch_zpspamdsmjw.jpg

 

Anyone else get that missing texture on right glove?

[Anaesha]

I would very much like them to place the gear in the CM as an actual armor set instead of just in packs.

[Fordbird]

If you have 6 alts, you can zoom through the new KotFE content with them and have enough credits to buy the while set in as little as 2 days up to a week. I was disgusted by the new pack system and hypercrate structure and am committed to using only credits to buy armor from now on and will use my monthly CC allowance (600 from sub) for unlocks.

[Anaesha]

If you have 6 alts, you can zoom through the new KotFE content with them and have enough credits to buy the while set in as little as 2 days up to a week. I was disgusted by the new pack system and hypercrate structure and am committed to using only credits to buy armor from now on and will use my monthly CC allowance (600 from sub) for unlocks.

 

Which Server do you play on? JC where I am it would take more in the range of 2 or 3 months to get the cash to purchase the tunic and boots alone.

[Daewan]

My friend, I would gladly do that save for one small problem: nothing I got from those 65 packs will even come remotely close to being able to buy even one piece of the tunic or boots.

 

By the way, would you care for several full sets of the Series 614 cybernetic armor? I have about 28 of them now. Or how about a House Rist flag? I have 49 of those. You may have it all.

 

The funny thing is, a few weeks ago I sold some old cybernetic armor that I have been sitting on for months, for about 5 million total. What's worthless to you is coveted treasure to someone else.