Mon-El Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'd just like to get a feel of the forums general temperature about this change, just a simple for or against with no childish insults from either side to muddy the waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikofunkster Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't care about it, i do care about new ops only. yes i will be playing the new expansion for 1 month then see you in 1 year lol until nex operations....that's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) That's just not really detailed enough as there are more than 2 groups: A) Want forced level sync B) Prefer optional level sync but don't mind the forced that much C) Want optional level sync and won't accept the forced D) Don't want any kind of level sync E) ? Edited October 4, 2015 by MFollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiesu Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I see someone ignored BWs request to quit making new threads on the matter and discuss it in the already existing tens of millions of threads. Really. Also, I vote FOR sync. There you go. Maybe I'll go make a new topic now "Poll: Should people start using existing topics on lvl sync"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayble Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Against unless there is an option to toggle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psikofunkster Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) but if i have to give my point about the matter (although i understand why they are doing it) i'm against it. You don't become level 60 to suddenly become again a low level if you go to your starting planet...that's just stupid. Also what is the point of "levels" if 4.0 sm operations gonna leveling players between 50-65? just getting more people to play the same content? good luck with that.... Edited October 4, 2015 by psikofunkster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX_Angel Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'd just like to get a feel of the forums general temperature about this change, just a simple for or against with no childish insults from either side to muddy the waters. I didn't like it at first, but I've changed my mind about it... It makes doing some of the side content interesting... I never go back and do the gray missions, it seems like a waste of time... I've got a full set of 22 alts, doing ALL of them on the new story might get boring, but I can level some of them to 65 doing Nar Shadda and Alderan bonus series, some of them doing a planet quest or two, etc. There are downsides, but I see the upsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quraswren Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm not sure it can be done in a poll. I like the down leveling and the idea of it. Just not all the time. As an optional game play feature sure. It's got it merits. All the time, every time I log in and go to some planet. Now I have to say I don't like it because the negatives outweigh the positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenesi Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 There was a poll on Reddit with approximately 1/3 for the idea, 1/3 against it and 1/3 not giving a ****. But since our forums will ***** about anything given the chance - we got what we got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon-El Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Well thank you for the replies, even from the people who can't help but be childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 simple yes or no doesn't work optional level sync, aka mentoring system? yes. mandatory level sync? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieKirby Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I am fine with it, the only ones against it just want to feel powerful on lower level planets with this level sync thing, that will never again be the case and they are scared of this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyltran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I am fine with it, the only ones against it just want to feel powerful on lower level planets with this level sync thing, that will never again be the case and they are scared of this change. Roleplayers aren't scared of the change. They just feel it breaks immersion because of their inability to one shot acolytes. Some people try to claim a skilled acolyte could take on a dark council member at least for a time but in all honesty.. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111155790/4380317-0082750926-43734.png What could the typical acolyte who could barely lift a rock do against this? In all fairness roleplayers are a small part of the community and the level mechanics are gameplay mechanics which doesn't have to reflect on actual capabilities. Still for some people it's a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Level sync as a concept is a great idea, and I favor it, but only as an optional feature like many other games have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockerz Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) I'd just like to get a feel of the forums general temperature about this change, just a simple for or against with no childish insults from either side to muddy the waters. I don't see a point to this thread or poll. This poll will be bias and therefore useless. Edited October 4, 2015 by Knockerz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Roleplayers aren't scared of the change. They just feel it breaks immersion because of their inability to one shot acolytes. Some people try to claim a skilled acolyte could take on a dark council member at least for a time but in all honesty.. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111155790/4380317-0082750926-43734.png What could the typical acolyte who could barely lift a rock do against this? In all fairness roleplayers are a small part of the community and the level mechanics are gameplay mechanics which doesn't have to reflect on actual capabilities. Still for some people it's a big deal. ... and at the same time it doesn't really make sense that a highlevel non-Force user can avoid and resist the attacks of a full blown Darth or Jedi Master eternally and yet that's what we're seeing ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 developers have asked you to stop making new ones. Please link this request, as I've never seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Please link this request, as I've never seen it. It wasn't the Devs who wrote it but here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8475230#post8475230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabbyMe Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I don't really care. I'll adapt and overcome. It's not going to make or break the game for me since I play for the story. If I need help because of level sync then I'll just bug my husband to come run the content with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Also, I would vote no. But not because I don't like the feature. I doubt it will affect my personal game play very much, if at all (I'm already a datacron master, Galactic Explorer, Loremaster, etc.). But because I think it's likely to be highly bug ridden (if you need proof, just look at Bolster). As well, it's a significant development by BioWare for 4.0, and must be contributing to why we are not getting any new end game content. No new Ops. No new FPs. No new WarZones. All of which were asked for. Instead, we get this...which essentially NO ONE ever asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 It wasn't the Devs who wrote it but here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8475230#post8475230 The thread is now closed, so I guess they changed their minds since that was the one they choose to make the main thread on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyltran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) ... and at the same time it doesn't really make sense that a highlevel non-Force user can avoid and resist the attacks of a full blown Darth or Jedi Master eternally and yet that's what we're seeing ingame. Not all Darths are equal. One of my favorite examples? Exar Kun. The current grandmaster at the time was prepared for him. He was sitting on a nexus for over a hundred years. Drawing from it. Empowering himself by it. Exar Kun engages him and he tries to sever his ability to use the force. Hits with the technique. Exar Kun completely resists it and one shots him with a single blast of dark side energy. A good example right here where a master level (grandmaster to be exact) had his attacks shrugged off by a Lord of the Sith. It's happened the other way around too. Ventress has defeated Jedi Masters but when she fought Yoda he casually prevented her from being able to strike him by using the force. Then he casually pulled her lightsabers from her hand using the force. After reprimanding her he gave them back. She was helpless against him and there was nothing she could do in the face of master Yoda. Of course you talked about non-force users. Only caught that now and I actually agree with you. That doesn't make sense. Personally SOR and KOTFE barely make sense from a non-force user perspective anyway. Edited October 4, 2015 by Rhyltran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elracor Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Not all Darths are equal. One of my favorite examples? Exar Kun. The current grandmaster at the time was prepared for him. He was sitting on a nexus for over a hundred years. Drawing from it. Empowering himself by it. Exar Kun engages him and he tries to sever his ability to use the force. Hits with the technique. Exar Kun completely resists it and one shots him with a single blast of dark side energy. A good example right here where a master level (grandmaster to be exact) had his attacks shrugged off by a Lord of the Sith. So? That's still Force user vs Force user. You can go as a BH or Agent to Balmorra, Sundari Battle zone and engage the Jedi Master (Elite Mob) there and take attacks from said Jedi Master. The first one to die from that encounter will you IRL. EDIT Of course you talked about non-force users. Only caught that now and I actually agree with you. That doesn't make sense. Personally SOR and KOTFE barely make sense from a non-force user perspective anyway. Edited October 4, 2015 by MFollin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyltran Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) So? That's still Force user vs Force user. You can go as a BH or Agent to Balmorra, Sundari Battle zone and engage the Jedi Master (Elite Mob) there and take attacks from said Jedi Master. The first one to die from that encounter will you IRL. No, I know. I didn't catch that at first. I did edit my post. Sorry about that. Edited October 4, 2015 by Rhyltran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurin Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 It wasn't the Devs who wrote it but here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8475230#post8475230 Since that thread is locked, there is no such thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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